Question Air cooling dual Gigabyte RTX3090 24g Gaming OC cards next to each other, advice needed.

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I'm looking for ideas to better air cool two RTX3090s (Gigabyte gaming oc) right next to each other. It seems the core temps of the top one are getting hot too quick for my liking and I wonder. Is it because it is difficult to suck enough aith through such a small gap? Or is it because the topmost card is sucking warm air expelled by the lower card? I heard in dual setups it is common to have one of the cards to run hotter, but this is 15C difference.... Quite a lot.

I have a 3d printer and I saw a video of a guy 3d printing what looked like shaped intake ports to guide air in the case and he managed to cool his rtx4090 in a mid tower case by about 10C cooler. Perhaps I can use the idea too? Do we have anyone runing a dual rtx3090 setup here who is willling to describe their experience?

I can't move the cards away because I'm using nvlink 3 slot bridge. A 3 slot bridge was ridiculously difficult to find and expensive around here, I don't think buying a 4 slot bridge and a nother motherboard for a 4 slot separation is an option for me. I'd rather build a custom water loop, but I'd prefer to stay with air if at all possible.

Someone may ask why? Well, prices of used rtx3090 came down suffieciently so I could buy two and an NVLink bridge for my "hobby grade" AI research. This is much better and cheaper for me that buying a single RTX4090 (better, because I do need way more than 24GB of VRAM, 48GB is a minimum).

I've got them in an ASUS TUF gaming x570-PLUS MB with a Ryzen 7 3700X (soon to be upgraded to Ryzen 9 5950X), a 1000W be.quiet Pure Power 12 PSU in a Thermaltake core x71 case.

When I got the first card I used furmark to test if the pads and thermal compound are not dried (it is a 3 year old used card after all), the memory would get up to 100C after 5 min of furmark. So I swapped thermal pads and the compound. And now the highest these temps get is 95C.

Then I got the other RTX3090 and I put it 3 slots below as in the pictures. I haven't had a chance to replace the pads in the second card (but I already bought them so I will soon). However I noticed immediately when both cards are in use at the same time the second card reaches much higher core temperatures very quickly.

When both cards are installed and furmark is running on the top one it is only few degrees warmer, so I'm suspecting it is not so much the small gap, but the hot air exhausted down towards the motherboard that gets sucked back that causes it. What do you think?

Here are some (pretty bad) pictures.

 
Please remove glass panel next time you take pictures. Doing so makes for clearer images; less glare and reflections.

It seems the core temps of the top one are getting hot too quick for my liking and I wonder. Is it because it is difficult to suck enough aith through such a small gap? Or is it because the topmost card is sucking warm air expelled by the lower card? I heard in dual setups it is common to have one of the cards to run hotter, but this is 15C difference.... Quite a lot.
It is BOTH of those reasons.

I don't know enough to chime in on the 3d print + dual 3090 experience.
 
Open the glass side panel and aim a large desk top cooling fan directly at the cards. Set the fan to maximum speed, then run a few tests and check the GPU temperatures. It might help reduce dead zone hot spots.

With narrow gaps between cards, you need much higher air flow, as found in servers with deafeningly loud multi fan arrays. The more cubic feet per minute you can shift through the case, the better. Liquid cooling would be worth trying.

Gigabyte-G481-S80-Liquid-Cooled-by-Asetek-GPUs.jpg


Upgrade all the case fans to the highest cfm versions available, then set them to full speed and you might drop a few degrees. You may not be able to live with the noise, but the cards will run slightly cooler.
 
Please remove glass panel next time you take pictures. Doing so makes for clearer images; less glare and reflections.
I didn't have much time to take these photos, but I took a better one later.



It is BOTH of those reasons.
An interesting data point. Pity they didn't say anything about the case they were running in, the number and type of fans etc. Although 4 of these cards in a normal case is definitely a bit of an overkill I'm surprised they didn't have issues running 4 cards and their powerful cpu with a 1600W psu.

This is the video of the guy 3d printing special air guides/intake I meant btw.
View: https://youtu.be/cehXZftIYok?si=FaVivDj_ezAe06Gh


If you can mount a slot cooler under the top card, it will help direct front cooling air past the fan intakes.
They are not expensive.

I never saw one of these thanks. But looking at it I think it would make it worse by pulling the air from the space between the cards. I need more air there. Plus possibly something that prevents the exhaust recirculation by directing the air from the bottom card down.

Open the glass side panel and aim a large desk top cooling fan directly at the cards. Set the fan to maximum speed, then run a few tests and check the GPU temperatures. It might help reduce dead zone hot spots.
Interestingly I'm getting much better temperatures (about ~6-8C better) in a closed case with fans on full.

I haven't tried a desk fan, that's a good idea to see what's possible. I'll try that tomorrow.

Altogether my case currently has 5 120mm fans and 1 140mm fan. I'm considering adding 3 120mm more fans. Also I'm thinking about printing a kind of shroud to seal the space between the cards and to direct all the air from one of the front fans in there. As really only the top card is overheating. The bottom one seems fine (well the vram is getting hot, but this will get sorted once I have time to replace the pads. I know the original pads are trash by now from the improvement in vram temps I got after switchingvthem in the topmost card).

With narrow gaps between cards, you need much higher air flow, as found in servers with deafeningly loud multi fan arrays. The more cubic feet per minute you can shift through the case, the better. Liquid cooling would be worth trying.

I initially considered it, but where I am (Poland) it seems available waterblocks for these model cards (gigabyte rtx3090 gaming oc) are way too expensive new and extremely rare used. If I don't manage to improve the air cooling I might just set a lower max power instead (I bought them mainly for their vram, I can live with it being up to 10% slower).

Gigabyte-G481-S80-Liquid-Cooled-by-Asetek-GPUs.jpg


Upgrade all the case fans to the highest cfm versions available, then set them to full speed and you might drop a few degrees. You may not be able to live with the noise, but the cards will run slightly cooler.
This desktop is in its own room I work in, so it doesn't have to be super quiet, but I had the "pleasure" of working on a server on a bench next to me, so I know how tiring such noise can be long term. So far the fans I have (these are all thermaltake fans that came with the case and corsair fans that came with my aio) are really quiet. I only start really noticing them above 1200rpm. I think I'll definitely get 2 more fans, but I'm thinking about something quiet like be. quiet silent wings 4. I'd prefer if they had rgb, but it seems every rgb fan I checked specs of was much worse in terms of noise.