Question Alternatives to MS Office?

[Squids4daddy]

I really love MS Office...but I just won't stomach $220 for a seat and "subscription" is a hard nyet for me.

Are there any off brand "office" suites that won't leave me frustrated and wishing I'd just spent the big money? Special emphasis on the data analysis tools in Excel. While we're at it: alternatives to MS Project (same issue).

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hey there,

You can try Libre Office. It's pretty decent, and doesn't come with much bloat or invasive adverts.

 

[USAFRet]

The only reason I have MS Office on some of my systems is that I get it really cheap from work.
All the others, LibreOffice.

It is mostly compatible, but the differences are very minor for a typical home user.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

It is mostly compatible, but the differences are very minor for a typical home user.

Yeah, that's what I liked most about it. Very little difference and practically the same functionality.

 

[Squids4daddy]

The only reason I have MS Office on some of my systems is that I get it really cheap from work.
All the others, LibreOffice.

It is mostly compatible, but the differences are very minor for a typical home user.

Thanks!

 

[punkncat]

Open Office, Libre, Google Docs are all three pretty good. Most of them are a straight up copy of older Office version that they call things something a little bit different and commands are slightly different.

Another point here. For years Office was a buy/install rather than a service like Office 365. It is not uncommon to be able to find people with the key card for older versions such as 10, 12, and so on. Those keys typically allow up to 3 reinstalls (technically to the same machine) before they become invalid. 2010 I think support dropped for so not really sure you can still find the installer, but the one for 12 still works. I am not personally vetted in anything newer for my particular situation.

 

[Squids4daddy]

Hey there,

You can try Libre Office. It's pretty decent, and doesn't come with much bloat or invasive adverts.

Thanks!

 

[NedSmelly]

MS Project is harder to replace with free apps, but Trello has a free-tier web app with limited features.

Also check out OpenProject.

 

[USAFRet]

Project is harder to replace with free apps, but Trello has a free-tier web app with limited features.

Regarding Trello:
https://www.tomsguide.com/computing...onal-information-might-be-on-sale-for-pennies

 

[USAFRet]

MS Project is harder to replace with free apps, but Trello has a free-tier web app with limited features.

Also check out OpenProject.

I'd wager if you need the capabilities of Project, you, or your employer, need to buy it.

 

[NedSmelly]

I'd wager if you need the capabilities of Project, you, or your employer, need to buy it.

Yep if it’s for collab you’re pretty much stuck with what everyone else is using.

 

[Squids4daddy]

Regarding Trello:
https://www.tomsguide.com/computing...onal-information-might-be-on-sale-for-pennies

Lol...I will DEFINITELY be using this. If for no other reason than..."Interestingly, the perpetrator of the attack has delivered a Bond-villain-style monologue explaining how they pulled it off, meaning there is no mystery about this alleged cyber attack."

 

[lantis3]

The problem with LibreOffice is that doesn't run Visual Basic for Applications

If you have to deal with Access/Excel/Word with embedded VBA, you have no choice.

 

[ThomasKinsley]

I really love MS Office...but I just won't stomach $220 for a seat and "subscription" is a hard nyet for me.

Are there any off brand "office" suites that won't leave me frustrated and wishing I'd just spent the big money? Special emphasis on the data analysis tools in Excel. While we're at it: alternatives to MS Project (same issue).

Not sure which one is the best for data analysis, but here are the big (and medium-sized) names in the business:

LibreOffice - free
Open Office - free
Only Office - free
FreeOffice/SoftMaker Office - free/paid
Zoho Office - free/paid?
Google Office Suite - cloud only, free
WPS Office Suite - free
MyOffice - free/paid?
Polaris Office Suite - One time payment/subscription

 

[Grobe]

Open Office - this unfortunately is a "dead" project, no features is being added since many years ago.

Libre Office, albeit not fully support VBA - does support python scripting (this is of course only relevant if all users use the same software, MS office probably won't run this).

However - let me put in some good arguments of why use Libre Office, those points often goes under the radar:

• Can be "installed" as a portable app (use portableapps) - this way it doesn't mess with the "system" (i.e. not altering what file types opens in what software, doesn't touch registry, etc. - but you have to open the program first and then open the file, alternatively create a link to the executable file on the desktop and drag the .ods/.odt files onto the shortcut)
• Does run on other OS. In practice - having an old computer from like 2007 not being used, well put Linux on it and you probably also get the full Libre Office pre-installed. It's probably not going to be lightening fast, but if the computer work it should do it's job.
• Does MS demand more money for features like formula editor make you unable (won't pay) to use feature in a school/work situation? Well, this is built-in when using Libre Office (module called "Math") - only you have to be used to use text for granular control.
• How about regular expression search and replace? I think you can buy this as an addition feature to MS office - but for Libre Office, full regular expression are supported (the REGEX( ) function in Libre Office Calc have saved my day several times).

 

[JBHapgood]

Given the dominance of MS Office, the LibreOffice developers have devoted a lot of resources to the "filters" that read and write Microsoft proprietary file formats. (LibreOffice natively uses ISO 26300 "OpenDocument" file formats.) The result is that LibreOffice has a high degree of compatibility with MS Office; and each version of LibreOffice improves that compatibility. That compatibility isn't 100% perfect; but in most situations if you're collaborating with someone who uses MS Office they won't even notice you're not using a Microsoft product. The latest version of LibreOffice may be more compatible with the latest MS Office than the earlier versions of MS Office that some people still use.

That said, documents that rely the more advanced or esoteric features of MS Office may cause problems. As noted earlier, LibreOffice doesn't support Visual Basic for Applications, which will cause problems for an Office file that relies on macros. And one thing I've noticed recently is that the latest rental versions of MS Office use a new font (Aptos) by default. LibreOffice doesn't have that proprietary font, which makes documents look funny when LibreOffice attempts to use a substitute for that font. (Older versions of MS Office might have the same problem. I think much of the "necessity" for a new font has to do with encouraging users of old versions to start renting Office 365.) Fortunately, it's possible to find the Aptos fonts for download. They're standard TrueType fonts and work perfectly well with LibreOffice.

 

[Endre]

I really love MS Office...but I just won't stomach $220 for a seat and "subscription" is a hard nyet for me.

Are there any off brand "office" suites that won't leave me frustrated and wishing I'd just spent the big money? Special emphasis on the data analysis tools in Excel. While we're at it: alternatives to MS Project (same issue).

Hello!

You can buy Microsoft Office a lot cheaper than that!
For instance, URCDKeys sells Office 2016 for $37 and it's a perpetual license.
There are other legit stores that sell Office 2019 for even cheaper than that.

CEL.ro sells Office 2021 for $5.

 

[USAFRet]

Hello!

You can buy Microsoft Office a lot cheaper than that!
For instance, URCDKeys sells Office 2016 for $37 and it's a perpetual license.
There are other legit stores that sell Office 2019 for even cheaper than that.

For various definition of "legit".

 

[Endre]

For various definition of "legit".

By legit I mean that the seller offers a legal invoice to the buyer.

 

[USAFRet]

By legit I mean that the seller offers a legal invoice to the buyer.

Which means nothing in the terms of valid purchase and licensing from the publishing authority, Microsoft.

I could sell you a 75" Sony TV for $100, and give you an invoice.
Doesn't make it a legal sale.


There have been multiple articles on the supposed validity of off-shore key sites like that.
Games and other licensed software like Office.

Validity and legality is very much in question.

 

[js2]

I really love MS Office...but I just won't stomach $220 for a seat and "subscription" is a hard nyet for me.

Are there any off brand "office" suites that won't leave me frustrated and wishing I'd just spent the big money? Special emphasis on the data analysis tools in Excel. While we're at it: alternatives to MS Project (same issue).

If you are talking like office 365 then Google workspace is cheaper Zoho is too, and they do work with most Excel functions.

Offline suites there are plenty of free and low cost alternatives. But none match 365 and GW.

You might be better checking deal sites; as they will sometimes have a year subscription to 365 for a few bucks.

 

[ThomasKinsley]

Which means nothing in the terms of valid purchase and licensing from the publishing authority, Microsoft.

I could sell you a 75" Sony TV for $100, and give you an invoice.
Doesn't make it a legal sale.


There have been multiple articles on the supposed validity of off-shore key sites like that.
Games and other licensed software like Office.

Validity and legality is very much in question.

IIRC, MS sells China keys for Office on the cheap, and then these Chinese retailers sell it back to Americans for a profit, which is still much cheaper than buying Office directly. Ofttimes people using these sites complain that they got the wrong version of Office when they register the key (Home instead of Professional, etc.). I've heard it recommended, but I have so many unanswered questions that I never did it. YMMV.

 

[Math Geek]

you can use MS Office unregistered if you don't want to buy it.

i have it on a couple pc's and all i did was install it and not enter any key. i get a pop-up on opening the program saying it is unregistered, but click the x and i'm off and running with no limitations. think i have office 2016.

give it a shot might be worth it to you as well to just click the x each time you load it

this little tool will allow you to download official MS iso's for the various programs/os's they have

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techn...icrosoft-windows-and-office-iso-download-tool

grab office 2016 or 2019, install it and enjoy it unregistered.

 

[Endre]

Which means nothing in the terms of valid purchase and licensing from the publishing authority, Microsoft.

I could sell you a 75" Sony TV for $100, and give you an invoice.
Doesn't make it a legal sale.


There have been multiple articles on the supposed validity of off-shore key sites like that.
Games and other licensed software like Office.

Validity and legality is very much in question.

Many YouTubers out there advertise sites like URCDKeys, which means that if there were legal issues with such sites, then Microsoft would take legal actions against them, but they don't!
So, if that's fine with MS, then it's fine with me too.

 

[USAFRet]

Many YouTubers out there advertise sites like URCDKeys, which means that if there were legal issues with such sites, then Microsoft would take legal actions against them, but they don't!
So, if that's fine with MS, then it's fine with me too.

Lack of legal action does not automatically make it legal.

But, you do you.


I'm out.