TrueChocolateTaco :
... While I do agree playing on pc is better graphics wise I still love playing on ps4 with my friends and casually. ...
Sony does seem to have spent quite a lot of time making, for example, VR stuff a more with-friends experience, from what I've seen.
TrueChocolateTaco :
... For the most part The gamer pc community (in my experience) get way to salty over the smallest things ...
To be fair, I've seen that kind of behaviour from console owners aswell. I suspect those who own both just sensibly stay quiet.
😀 I love playing ED on my PC setup, but I still like my PS2, N64, etc. (I skipped the later models)
TrueChocolateTaco :
... I have experienced playing and ultra I gotta say...its not different from console.
I suspect a PC user would say, woah there, the "ultra" tier of play in PC gaming is more at the 1440p/4K level of tech.
😀 These days, PC gamers on forums generally regard 1080p gaming as being yesterday's norm. This is fine, the very nature of PC tech means it'll always be this way, but bare in mind that making comparisons like this is exactly what can unleash that storage bin of heated opinion.
😀 Example point, at 4K the AA features so useful at 1080p are often no longer necessary, which frees up performance. It's something I'm hoping to see when I move up to 4K after new year with a 1080 Ti or whatever. Many people like having this kind of flexibility. In a way it's a bit odd that these same vast range of choices are now becoming the norm on consoles aswell. It's a far cry (see what I did there) from just turning on my N64/PS2 and playing whatever right off the bat.
TrueChocolateTaco :
... it was more senseable to get a console for the price ...
What put me off (I'm in the UK btw) was the very high prices of the console games (50 to 60 UKP), and the fact that I already had a PC which could be upgraded to a very decent degree for much less than the cost of a PS4. Plus, the games I'd wanted to play on what would have been my console of choice (PS4) didn't turn out quite so well in reviews, eg. Mercenaries 2 (I liked the seriousness of the original game, largely gone from the more colourful sequel). More than anything though, I wanted mods (Oblivion, Stalker, etc.), and as time went by and I kept hearing about necessary update downloads for the consoles, etc., I couldn't really see their core advantages anymore.
It's not like my N64, just turn on and get playing in seconds (and not much slower with the PS2 despite its CD based tech), no worries about machine updates, DRM, etc. That don't-have-to-worry-about-the-innards aspect of consoles is largely gone. Today they are much more PC-like in their complexity, and of course the tech inside is very similar. Worth pointing out how older consoles used to have a much longer lifespan before the next gen aswell, again that's not true anymore. PCs though haven't become any less complicated hw-wise, but I suppose systems like Steam have made the sw angle easier. PC tech has gone astray for other reasons, eg. the Intel volcano of sockets and yawn-inducing upgrades, stagnation when there's no competition (thank grud for Ryzen, though Erium mining has borked GPU upgrade options atm), woes about Windows data spying, etc. Oh, in case you're not familiar with what I mean about the latter, see:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/configuration/windows-diagnostic-data
It's why I'm still using Win7.
What consoles do seem to have better sorted out though is 4K BR support, at least on MS side anyway. 4K BR on PCs is a total pain.
TrueChocolateTaco :
... This whole pc master race is honestly dumb imo. ...
Sensible people just find it amusing, but sure there are the diehards, though they're on both sides.
TrueChocolateTaco :
... All consoles are good ...
Heh, how about the 3DO, Sega 32X, Jaguar, Philips CDi, Dreamcast, GX4000, Pippin, N-Gage, Gizmondo, etc. I suppose I'd have to include the Virtual Boy, though oddly when I tried it while visiting NOA I thought it worked quite well in tech terms, though it was obvious that as a gaming platform it would never be viable.
Overall, what I find strange is the way debates over console vs. PC are still so heated, even though the nature of the tech involved is much closer than it has ever been in the past, with way shorter product cycles and greater complexity on the console side, plus DRM/monitoring creeping into the console field whereas before that was more something one had to worry about on PCs with Windows.
Consoles have expanded outwards to try and become more general home entertainment devices, and at least Sony has picked up the VR baton quite strongly (who can tell where that will lead). PCs though have lost a bit of their traditional flexibility; still strong for gaming, but not being able to easily handle 4K BR is just nuts.
Maybe Linux can help on the PC side in time, but not atm in any meaningul way.
Ian.