AMD A8 APU Heat Issues

[Dindo Kaquilala]

I've just finished assembling my PC and instalIing Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit a while ago and I am running Prime95 right now and my APU's temperature seems weird.. On HWMonitor the temperature is 98-100 degrees Celsius while on MSI Click Bios the temperature shown is 61 degress Celsius. Is this normal or my PC has a problem ?

Full Specs :
Processor : AMD A8-5600k ( Stock Speed )
MoBo : MSI FM2-A85XMA-P33
RAM : G Skill RipJaw X 1866 2x4gb
PSU : Antec VP550W
HDD : WD Caviar Blue 500gb

 

[jay2577]

That is way too hot

When you assembled your new pc did you fit the heatsink to the CPU properly?
Did you remove any plastic covering off the bottom of the heatsink?
Was there thermal paste on the heatsink?
Did you plug the CPU fan in securely?
AMD stock coolers are not very good but it should be better than that

 

[jay2577]

Try not to do anything CPU intensive until we have resolved the problem. You don't want to damage your CPU

 

[Dindo Kaquilala]

I placed the APU Cooler properly as what the manual instructed and also yes I removed the plastic covering at the bottom of the heat sink and there is already a thermal paste applied.

 

[Dindo Kaquilala]

My PC case btw is the CM Storm Scout II with only 1 Exhaust Rear Fan. I am planning to buy extra more fans next week 😀

 

[Dindo Kaquilala]

Is a temperature of 51-59 Degrees Celsius during idle fine?

 

[jay2577]

Not really fine no. I have an AMD FX8320 overclocked from 3.5Ghz to 4Ghz and even when i'm gaming it only hits 50 degrees Celsius.At idle it sits at 30 degrees Celsius.
I do have an aftermarket CPU cooler. The cooler Master Evo 212.
I would recommend upgrading the APU cooler.
Try keeping the side off your case and see if it makes a difference.
Also when the side is off check to make sure the fan is spinning properly on the APU.
The other option is to buy some good thermal paste and refit your APU. The thermal paste which comes pre applied to stock heatsinks is usually terrible.

 

[jay2577]

Anything above 65 Degrees Celsius and I would start worry about damage.
Touch the heatsink carefully to check how hot it is when your computer is running. That way we can eliminate a faulty temperature sensor problem

 

[Dindo Kaquilala]

I removed the heat sink and unluckily forget that I must apply a new thermal paste to it again before putting it back again... xD I am now using my spare part PC.. What will happen if I will put it back without applying a new thermal compound ? I guess I'll have to purchase an aftermarket cooler.

 

[jay2577]

If the thermal compound is still on it it would normally be okay but in your situation I wouldn't recommend it. You could try some good quality thermal paste before buying a new APU cooler.
It might be enough, it's fairly cheap and can be bought in a local computer shop. Make sure it's good quality and you get enough for more than 1 application. So if you get a new APU cooler you can use it again

 

[Dindo Kaquilala]

Thanks you so much for your help and I am thinking of buying a watercooler for OC'ing... I'll just monitor the temperatures of my PC and also which of the sensor is true the HWMonitor's or the MSI's

 

[jay2577]

The MSI bios temperature should be most accurate but when your computer is in the bios the APU isn't doing any work to produce heat. I would worry if HW monitor was that high on my machine.
Watercooling will need maintenance. The best air cooler is the Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator.
If i were you I would get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Cooler. It's quite cheap and very good. It's probably the most recommended cooler on this site

 

[Dindo Kaquilala]

Just got back on my pc (the one w/ the head issue) The temps were now fluctuating to 51-70. And I'll try opening the side panel and touch the heatsink.

 

[jay2577]

It's no problem helping

 

[Dindo Kaquilala]

xD I touched the heat sink and at 52 Degrees Celsius (HWMONITOR) it was very cold .

 

[jay2577]

Did you touch the heatsink near the CPU?
It might be a problem transferring the heat to the heatsink due to bad thermal paste or a faulty temperature sensor. Without looking at it myself and checking it with a separate temperature sensor I have no way to tell🙁
I can only suggest getting your local computer shop to test it for you

 

[Dindo Kaquilala]

And now my MSI is getting nuts after configuring CPU Fan control look at this http://s27.postimg.org/wg5rnqi4j/Temps.png

 

[Dindo Kaquilala]

Does the pre-applied Thermal Paste at the bottom of the APU Cooler comes with a cover ? Because I didn't notice and just continued installing it.

 

[Dindo Kaquilala]

Does the pre-applied Thermal Paste at the bottom of the APU Cooler comes with a cover ? Because I didn't notice and just continued installing it.

 

[jay2577]

I thought you meant the Msi bios readings. When you press del to enter set up as the system starts. The software is obviously wrong. The CPU would have died at 255 Degrees Celsius for sure.
The package temperature in HW monitor is actually the APU socket and not the core of the APU.
Yours reads 59 Degrees Celsius which is very high.Mine is 15 Degrees.
The actual APU temperature should be where it says TMPIN1 under temperatures in HW monitor.
What does it say there? I posted mine with a red arrow where you should be looking

 

[jay2577]

 

[CallmeanoobxD]

You may find this weird but did you use speccy to monitoir your hardware.. or hwmonitoir? people with 30c and realy low temps have realy good Pc's. if your on a budget Pc (wich you can upgrade) dont use speccy. it makes your cpu even hotter? Dont believe me? my cpu came to a point while i was playing minecraft at 90c! ye. proof me wrong or not. anyways it could just be dust inside your fans ''xD I touched the heat sink and at 52 Degrees Celsius (HWMONITOR) it was very cold .'' so dont trust the software. i dont know why this happens to me but it happens to a lot of people to that temprature software is heating up your pc. close hwmonitoir.

 

[docbrownturbo]

U just did a a8-5500 build on a gigabyte board. then had overheating issues as I set an alarm to sound at CPU temp of 70 celcius. The sound went off watching YouTube. I removed the CPU heatsink and noticed that the pre applied heatsink paste did not spread out evenly to all edges of CPU after initial assembly. So if the CPU has no full contact to heatsink the air gaps are insulating the CPU further, causing it to not transfer heat away as good. I removed heatsink, cleaned with alcoloh, applied new white thermal paste. Using a razor applying a thin thin even layer, I even spread a tiny bit on to the heat sink fins , as the chipn actually is bigger in area than the square / rectangle solid area under heatsink in order to have additional heat transfer. It worked out great! Noore overheating issues. AMD is really pushing it to lower cost with a small heatsink low thermal paste amount they include. With the a8-5500!... Lol

 

[xfirestormxx]

I hate to be "that guy" but this thread has literally just made me facepalm so hard.

AMD's thermal sensors are set up in such a way that makes readings from software such as HWMonitor display it incorrectly. Hence your "255c reading". Download AMD Overdrive and take a look at the thermal margin. The higher the margin, the lower your CPU temps.

Chances are, either your heatsink isn't working or your CPU isn't overheating. I'm thinking the latter.

 

[Sweetzerlandia]

I hate to be "that guy" but this thread has literally just made me facepalm so hard.

AMD's thermal sensors are set up in such a way that makes readings from software such as HWMonitor display it incorrectly. Hence your "255c reading". Download AMD Overdrive and take a look at the thermal margin. The higher the margin, the lower your CPU temps.

Chances are, either your heatsink isn't working or your CPU isn't overheating. I'm thinking the latter.

It's ok to be That Guy sometimes

Are there any software programs aside form Speccy you'd recommend?
I just bought a PC yesterday, custom built by professionals (aka not me) And it's telling me I'm gaming at 80 degrees C, which I'd really rather not see on a brand new shiny PC I paid so much for lol.

If the software could be lying I'd love a suggestion for alternatives.

Thanks!