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Well IMO the world economy is beginning to lurch back upright, so maybe AMD can turn things around. However I would not be surprised to see some serious disruption occur, such as North Korea attacking the South (low odds I admit), or Israel bombing Iran's nuke facilities (much higher odds I believe, if the current hardline gov't in Iran stays in power). The latter would shut down a good portion of the world's oil supply, for a few weeks anyway, and probably force the USA into some military action to restore the oil. I'd expect oil to shoot up to $150 or more a barrel.

Of course, I thought Israel would launch a preemptive strike before Bush, who was much more favorable to them compared to what Obama seems, left office. However I bet as Iran gets nearer to producing weapons-grade U-235 with their gas centrifuge plants, or if NK sells one of their bombs to Iran, Israel will run out of patience for the sanctions to work and decide to take the facilities out. About the only thing that would deter this would be if Mousavi & Rafsanjani displace Ahmadinejad & Khomeini - Israel might wait to see what the new gov't does. Iran also has the Russian nuke power plant coming online in the future, and you can bet the present gov't will be harvesting the plutonium for weapons as well.

My guess is that Israel will wait until late fall this year before they run out of patience, maybe next summer. But not much longer than that. And so you can kiss the recovery bye-bye, at least for some months, depending on how long oil stays at those exorbitant prices...
 
I agree there. As you say it will be up, down, up, down for a while. A recovery of our precious economy IS standing slightly with its knees woobling at the moment. With the added problems of the crazies over there in those far away countries, doing all that really stupid shite, is what is going to drag our @$$3$ back down to a crawl. We will feel it around the world again very soon.

Military actions will be taken and we will all probably see the end of our world as we know it, by that BS end of the world year 2012. I maintain that we will see these up and downs and get fed the BS that we are pulling through the recession over and over, only for it to fall again and prices to rise ever higher. Sooner or later prices of everyday items that we take for granted will be sooooooo high, very few will be able to afford the necessities, let alone gas to get to work. If you cant get to work how are you supposed to buy the latest and greatest cpu or hardware to stay competitive?

MY answer: You can't!
 
True AMD is still having it's problems financially, but lets face it.. AMD can not fail.

Intel wont let AMD fail. If you think Intel is having problems now with lawsuits, what do you think will happen if AMD went under? Monopoly......The courts would split Intel up in a heartbeat. So Intel's worst nightmare would be AMD going under.

On a side note.. Firefox's spell check is an Intel fan boy!! It detects "Intel" as proper spelling, but AMD as an error!!! lol
 
yeah its something like that, but 12 is better than 18. Also with AMDs debut of the Atom Crusher I think they will be doing alittle better as long as AMD is not toooooo far behind the curve.
 
I posted in another thread about someone mentioning Intels 3rd gen of using HKMG. While all thats fine and dandy, AMD is matching Intesl second gen of using HKMG without its use. And for AMD, HKMG comes in at 32nm, and Intel saw a 20% reduction in power usage and almost as much in clocks as well, so, even being behind 1 process, with the use of HKMG, AMD should be ahead at the same process, and by then, their new arch will arrive as well.
So, theres hope yet
 
This isnt exactly about the CPUs, but it is relative. Parallelization of processing is on both AMD and Intels Dry erase board as the next step, as far as how it is used or how the OS uses it is really the question here. To get IPC up on an entire chip as oppossed to on one core is the issue. Utilizing every bit of what we have to obtain higher computing capabilities. My cluster is able to utilize all the cores I can throw at it, but I have a problem. Windows Sever 08 HPC Edition runs EVER so slow on a single machine and when adding compute nodes I do not see the increase in performance I expected. At this point in time Im not too sure about the Parallel capabilities of HPC. On that note here is a link to maybe A solution to parallelization.

0 Threads....... Ooooooooooo How nice!

http://rebelscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-solve-parallel-programming.html

Any comments?
 
A bit OT, but here's an interesting tidbit on the EC, nemesis of Intel but no help to AMD:

EC threatens action against US over copyright laws :

Guardian.co.uk

29 July, 2009

The European Commission has threatened to stop working with the U.S. against piracy if the U.S doesn't make its copyright laws fairer to European artists

The European Commission has threatened to stop cooperating with the U.S. in the fight against piracy if the U.S doesn't make its copyright laws fairer to European artists. The commission, in a report titled United States Barriers to Trade and Investment 2008 (pdf, via Intellectual Property Watch), warns that the EU is prepared to "suspend trade benefits granted to the U.S." if its domestic Copyright Act is not updated to fit World Trade Organisation rules.
Email and phone messages left with the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office on Tuesday seeking comment weren't returned.

Currently, EU artists and content owners receive money for performances and broadcasts of copyrighted songs at large-scale events and performances—but section 110(5) of the U.S. Copyright Act specifically exempts American small businesses from having to pay royalties. The rules say that long as it's without "direct or indirect commercial advantage" and there's no payment to performers, promoters or organisers, then with some exceptions businesses can play as many tunes as they want.

So, for example, while collecting societies like the UK's PRS collect payments on behalf of U.S. content owners for songs played in UK cafes, bars and barbers, European artists and companies don't get compensated for the equivalent in the U.S. "To the contrary, the EU does grant rights to both producers and performers since 1992… Consequently, U.S. rights holders are protected in a large number of EU Member States," the document says.

The EC is threatening, if the U.S. doesn't change its rules, to levy a fee on the U.S. rights holders who apply to EU customs authorities for help blocking pirated goods. A 2001 arbitration panel found that because of U.S. laws, EU content owners were collectively missing out on $1.2 million a year. After that, the U.S. agreed not to change its rules but to give "financial assistance to EU performing societies." But that agreement expired in 2004.
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Looks like the EC is really trying to throw its weight around. However I predict the present administration will not put up much of a fight over this...
 


I think those "you're-a-peein" states comprise about half a billion people. Whereas ND, Wyoming & Alaska maybe half a dozen people 😀. Oops, forgot about Palin's new grandkid - make that 7 people!
 


Wha?
 


Bristol Palin, daughter of Sarah Palin (recently ex-governor of the frozen state of Alaska), had her kid last month 😀.

As a teenager I lived in Europe for 3 years, and observed that a goodly number of the male population in some of the countries think nothing of relieving their bladders in public - on a tire, side of a building, or each other if they stand still long enough 😀.

 
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