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Oh, I'm not saying it's "too hard" or it won't happen, I'm just saying that we still use C++ for a lot of things because it's something programmers have used for a long time, and most things could probably be switched to a much cleaner language (C#, Ruby, etc.), programmers don't change quickly or easily, and companies won't force them to change unless they're at a competitive disadvantage (ie. other devs games have much better performance/physics/AI/sales because other devs are properly multithreading things).

I was blessed to start programming in truly OO languages :)
 


Note that I later realised that checking if the calc was 50% complete or not added 10s to the calculation time. I'm not a very efficient programmer when doing proof of concept 😀

After 2 threads I started getting different sums so I think my maths was wrong when splitting the load.
 
Yeah, single to dual thread isn't *too* bad, but for a lot of things, going truly multithreaded takes some... creativity. Even if you take a game and try to seperate out AI into it's own thread/threads, you can have a lot of unforseen issues.

For example, if you take all your AI out of the rest of your game stuff, it appears simple. Just make a thread and insert AI into it. Problem is, If you're AI has any intelligence at all, enemies should know what the player is doing, what other AI are doing, where objects are/are going. If you completely seperate AI, how do you handle them getting information, like, that you're shooting at them/breaking buildings/throwing grenades, etc.?

I honestly think before anyone is allowed to complain that software is lagging behind/programmers are lazy, they should have to write a game of tetris in C#... utilizing 4 threads. Now that I think about it, how about they just have to write Blackjack, that shouldn't be too hard.
 
Well all the above program did was calculate:

while (n < 50000000)

sum += 1/n
n++

end while

Thread 2 would sum 1/n for values n=50000001 to 100000000.

Thus half the work is done by each thread, and the result two sums are summed at the end for a final result. Very simple, but not easy to implement if you've never done it before. Now apply the same concept to a complex game and split it to 4 threads. Obviously the work won't be virtually the same for all 4 though as they are with the example I wrote. I am glad I'm not a programmer by profession...
 
recently i started to feel dizzy, and i dont know but every time i hear AMD i Fart with no reason, o dam like right now i just farted.

so i was wondering what should i do to prevent this problem from happening?
 
lol, i hope your right because this problem is annoying i mean AMD (Farts again) are good and i respect them in every way possiable but this problem is getting out of hand.

thanks for your help.
 
Intel Reports Strong Third-Quarter Results

Intel Corporation today reported third-quarter revenue of $9.4 billion. The company reported operating income of $2.6 billion, net income of $1.9 billion and earnings per share (EPS) of 33 cents.

“Intel’s strong third-quarter results underscore that computing is essential to people’s lives, proving the importance of technology innovation in leading an economic recovery,” said Paul Otellini, Intel president and CEO. “This momentum in the current economic climate, plus our product leadership, gives us confidence about our business prospects going forward. As we look ahead, Intel’s game-changing 32nm process technology will usher in another wave of innovation from new, powerful Intel® Xeon™ server platforms to high-performance Intel® Core™ processors to low-power Intel® Atom™ processors.”

Non-GAAP Comparison
Q3 2009 vs. Q2 2009
Revenue $9.4 billion up $1.4 billion
Operating Income/(Loss) $2.6 billion up $1.1 billion
Net Income/(Loss) $1.9 billion up $807 million
Earnings/(Losses) Per Share 33 cents up 15 cents
Q3 2009 results are GAAP. Q2 2008 results are non-GAAP and exclude the EC fine.
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nVidia claims its low end part is better than ATIs new 5870 card because its using CUDA and Physx
Intel says its igps are better because its using its cpus,also stating the GPU is dead
Both have slanted 3DMarks using their own lil tweaks
Both have delayed GpGPU solutions that supposedly will turn the world on fire
Hey, theyre the same company!
 
^ LOL - at least JDJ didn't post some "Larra-fail" post again 😀.

Anyway, from the Earnings Blog :

5:25 p.m. EST: While we wait, Intel CFO Stacy Smith has published his commentary on the results ahead of the call. He calls 3Q “exceptional” and notes that it was the largest 2Q-to-3Q revenue jump in the company’s history.

“The factories executed particularly well, with inventories down an additional $300M this quarter, improvements in throughput time and yields, and unit costs better than expected across all lines of business. Additionally, spending was in tight control and the number of employees increased only slightly as a result of the Wind River acquisition,” he adds.

5:32: Otellini and Smith start the call. “We are very pleased with the company’s third quarter,” Otellini says, the result of having the right products at the right cost at the right time. Mobile was particularly strong, thanks to notebook processor sales. Regionally, China had a strong quarter. U.S.’s back-to-school cycle also exceeded expectations.

5:37: Intel begins production of its newest process technology, 32-nanometers, this quarter. It will begin refreshing its entire product line as well, Otellini says.

5:38: Smith goes through Intel’s financial metrics — but you read about those 13 minutes ago, right?

5:41: 4Q revenue forecast is $10.1 billion, up 23% from the year-earlier period. “The factories are executing superbly, and we are showing good financial discipline,” Smith says.
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So it looks like notebooks/netbooks are the market sweet spot, esp. in the back-to-school customer segment.

On the AMD side of the news, perhaps things are not so great after all:

Schaeffer’s Street Stories: Pessimism Blankets Advanced Micro Devices Ahead of Earnings

As earnings draw near for semiconductor manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices Inc. AMD, traders have flocked to the stock's puts in anticipation of a negative report. The International Securities Exchange (ISE) has reported a 10-day put/call volume ratio of 0.52, which is higher than 85% of all those taken during the past 52 weeks. In addition, the ISE/Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE) 10-day put/call volume ratio comes in at 0.54, which is also higher than 85% of all those taken during the past 12 months. This lofty reading indicates that investors have been growing more skeptical of the shares recently.

In fact, the Schaeffer's put/call open interest ratio for AMD stands at 0.81, as put open interest nearly equals call open interest among options slated to expire in less than three months. This reading is also higher than 85% of all those taken during the past year. In other words, short-term options players have been more skeptical of the shares only 15% of the time during the past 52 weeks.
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Hmmm, yes it was out at 1:59PM today, and of course Intel posted their earnings a bit after 5PM. So, 3 hours?
 
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