AMD and Intel: What to buy?

[endyen]

The FX is the Amd cpu for gaming. Top dog, top $, except it's a little cheaper than the X2 4800, for a lot better gaming (single threaded games) chip.
Dropping timings to straight cas2, is < 1%, so it's not a biggy, in my books.

 

[kariokacb]

Ok.
So, for single threaded games, the AMD FX is a killer, but expensive. What about for multiple threaded games, is Intel better?

 

[theholylancer]

nooooo X2 is better..... intel had spend too much in marketing and too less in research and development

 

[endyen]

If there were any multithreaded games (I mean ones that actually gained from more than one core), They would have to have some major Intel floptimization to come close to the X2 chips. As of right now, there are no games that take advantage of multiply cores. It's possible that there will be the odd games that will use dual core, in the next year. The engines that most games are based on now (doom3, HL2 etc) will stick around for a while. Not too likely they will be re-written for dual core.

 

[kariokacb]

So, FX is better for Ocing and X2 for general use, right?

 

[endyen]

Most people would'nt gain anything from X2. Dual cores are really more for server apps. If you do serious audio/video encoding (not editting), dual core may be some help.
FX is for high end gaming, X2 is for render farms.

 

[kariokacb]

I read somewhere that a revolutionary game engine would be released in order to take full advantage of AMD's newest technology. Apparently AMD was supporting and funding this project but I am not sure if this means that it will support multithreaded games or something in this sense.

 

[theholylancer]

care to give a clickable link to it?

 

[kariokacb]

I can see what you mean now. Sorry for my confusion before.

 

[kariokacb]

I read it on paper not too long ago. A friend handed it over to me, I will call him up Tomorrow and check it for you.

 

[endyen]

Chances are, you are talking about 64 bit, not dual core. 64 bit can give a lot to games without too much extra work. Dual core means a lot more code, not just a simple recompile.

 

[theholylancer]

well don;t brother to scan the whol newspaper in if its a hard copy man

 

[kariokacb]

I have browsed the net and found out something about dual core games. But this is the not article I have mentioned before.

Not Tops Yet
Don't expect dual-core to be the top performer today for games and other demanding single-threaded applications, says Kevin Krewell, editor in chief of Microprocessor Report. But that will change as applications are rewritten. For example, by year's end, Unreal Tournament should have released a new game engine that takes advantage of dual-core processing, Krewell says.

http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2306p024id120656.htm

 

[kariokacb]

As for RAM, what do you recomend? 400, 500, 550 or 600?

 

[theholylancer]

if ya oc then 600 is the way to go, i'd recommand the EL Gold VX OCZ, but i don;t think its got a 600 varient



edit: yap OCZ only have 500 one at dual channel <A HREF="http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_4000_dual_channel_gold_vx" target="_new">clicky</A><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TheHolyLancer on 08/07/05 06:08 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[kariokacb]

What do I need to use a 500, 550 or 600 RAM on the Abit MB?

 

[theholylancer]

just overclock it in the bios, at first it will only be a 400 speeds when run at auto speeds

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TheHolyLancer on 08/07/05 06:17 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[kariokacb]

OCZ does have a 1 Gb 600Mhz (dual 512 Mb). Is this the one you were refering to?

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_4800_dual_channel_platinum_elite_edition

 

[theholylancer]

heh its the platium edition, not gold, and this one do not have VX (voltage extreme) VX is nice for OCing

 

[kariokacb]

So, which one to buy; the Platinum or Gold with VX?

 

[theholylancer]

?? i never see DDR2 there??? wassup? wusy explain plz

 

[endyen]

?? i never see DDR2 there??? wassup? wusy explain plz

The northwoods never made it past s478. There are no mobos that support northwood chips and DDR2.
Pity really, the northwoods wre Intel's last decent chip. They even ran at sub 60c temps, believe it, or not.

 

[theholylancer]

😵.......

 

[kariokacb]

I have checked the OCZ specs and it says:

The PC-4800 Platinum Elite Edition has been designed for ultra-high speed operation on AMD Athlon 64 platforms and is guaranteed to run at both DDR600 with 2.5-4-4-10 timings and DDR400 with 2-2-2-5 timings to meet the diverse needs of PC enthusiasts and overclockers.

So, apparently it fits to AMD, what do you think?

 

[theholylancer]

well can some one tell me about the performance between a 500 and 600? i think gold VX dual channel is better looking and could goto 600 with OC... dunno about can it go higher though...

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TheHolyLancer on 08/07/05 07:45 PM.</EM></FONT></P>