AMD Announces Ryzen Threadripper, Challenges Intel With 12C/16X For $799 and $999

[kinggremlin]

@kinggremlin

I own a 6600k Skylake based system. It's going to be replaced by a ryzen system soon enough now that the bios has matured properly. Likely to be a 1600. I'm tired of how stuttery a quad core is. Thread ripper is also on the menu as AMD claims getting 4.0 GHz on the boost clocks.if that can happen and they don't have the same memory gremlin as ryzen then there is absolutely no reason not to buy if you have the money and don't like having to buy a motherboard with your processor every time you upgrade. (Skylake to kabylake anyone? I ran a 7700k for a friend to verify his Mobo was DOA but it was a unstable mess. Coffee lake threatens to do the same thing.)

If you're incapable of building a properly functioning Intel system, what makes you think you will have any success with picking the parts and building an AMD one? PEBKAC

 

[kinggremlin]

You can bet that Chipzilla is spending billions, and designing 1,000s-more 'landings' beyond LGA2011 in response. I don't necessarily think they were caught flat-footed, but they likely underestimated where DAAMIT 'fusion' was headed 10 years ago.

My only fear is that Intel will use their market 'heft' to constrain AMD (as they have in the past). I feel like AMD is better positioned this go-round to fight back -- not only with their arch but in the channel, too.

You mean like the already announced 3647 pin Skylake-SP family of CPU's? In another thread I mentioned how AMD fans live in this fantasy world where AMD comes up with everything and then everyone else just copies it in a rushed response. I got blasted for it, but no matter, you people continue to prove me right. According to AMD posters on this site, since AMD announced Threadripper two months ago Intel has:

-Added 8 cores to Broadwell E to reach 18, with an addition 10 cores added for Skylake SP to 28
-Replaced their ring bus with a network mesh topology
-Developed a new socket 3647 to replace the 2011

If any of that were true, you people aren't giving remotely enough credit to the engineers at Intel. That's an insane accomplishment to be able to do all of that in two months.

 

[bugs1357]

Is this really a Threa dripper? LOL

 

[bugs1357]

This thing is really a Threa dripper. LOL

 

[Jon_16]

I dislike webpages that have videos that auto play w/o my consent.... If you're reading this Tom's don't do that, ever... it annoys people.

 

[diacad]

We had problems making Ryzen 1700 work with VMware. Have they fixed this in these new Ryzens?

 

[kyotokid]

..well considering like the first generation Ryzen CPUs, you need W10, looks like I am sticking to Haswell/Broadwell Xeons. Apologies but an OS "as a service" just doesn't fly very well especially when you are forced to deal with all the nonsensical rubbish it includes.

 

[diacad]

..well considering like the first generation Ryzen CPUs, you need W10, looks like I am sticking to Haswell/Broadwell Xeons. Apologies but an OS "as a service" just doesn't fly very well especially when you are forced to deal with all the nonsensical rubbish it includes.

That's what we wound up using for a VMware server upgrade - a pair of Xeons. We should have read other reports of VMware trouble with Ryzen which we found later on the internet. Strange, since the server we upgraded was using the AMD FX-8520 which had no problem with VMware, just was a little slower than we wanted. BTW, as far as I know, there are no motherboards that will accept more than one Ryzen - perhaps multiple cpu operation is precluded with this chip. The Ryzen 1700 and its accompanying motherboard sits on the shelf, waiting for a gamer to order a system. That seems to be the prime marketing target for AMD here.

 

[kyotokid]

..well considering like the first generation Ryzen CPUs, you need W10, looks like I am sticking to Haswell/Broadwell Xeons. Apologies but an OS "as a service" just doesn't fly very well especially when you are forced to deal with all the nonsensical rubbish it includes.

That's what we wound up using for a VMware server upgrade - a pair of Xeons. We should have read other reports of VMware trouble with Ryzen which we found later on the internet. Strange, since the server we upgraded was using the AMD FX-8520 which had no problem with VMware, just was a little slower than we wanted. BTW, as far as I know, there are no motherboards that will accept more than one Ryzen - perhaps multiple cpu operation is precluded with this chip. The Ryzen 1700 and its accompanying motherboard sits on the shelf, waiting for a gamer to order a system. That seems to be the prime marketing target for AMD here.

...from my perspective AMD usually seemed to cater more to the gaming sector while Intel/Nvidia were more broad spectrum. Crikey even the names of their new CPUs, (Ryzen, Threadripper and Epyc) sound more game than workstation/server oriented compared to the more mundane sounding "i-X" and Xeon series.

 

[Wisecracker]

... Crikey even the names of their new CPUs, (Ryzen, Threadripper and Epyc) sound more game than workstation/server oriented compared to the more mundane sounding "i-X" and Xeon series.

In case you missed it ... Chipzilla now names their enterprise chips after precious metals.

edit: and ... I fergit.

Not sure what that dude is going on about desktop systems, enterprise, servers, whatever.

Socket SP3 is 2P ("Naples') and effectively an Octo-Chip enterprise solution.