AMD BUILD: YAY or NAH

[TheMrWrecker]

MOBO: MSI 970 Gaming
CPU: AMD FX8350 Black Edition
PSU: Corsair AX860i-Modular
RAM: HyperX-FURY 8GB
I already have R9 380X Graphics card but I might upgrade later.

CPU would be watercooled with H100 or H110.

What do you think about this kind of budget but I would like to believe powerful and reliable setup?

I am planning buying parts gradually. Like mobo and CPU first, then case and psu.

Do you have suggestions? Is it legit or should I start with i5 4690k and Z97 mobo for example. I can't decide, but I really feel I want to try that 8 core AMD build Thanks in advance!

 

[RedJaron]

Wrecker, let's try this again from the top. First, what are you looking to do with the build? Gaming? Professional apps? Tinkering? Second, how much are you willing to spend? Answer those and we can go from there.

Thanks for asking! I I want to game and use recording/streaming apps at the same time without braking a sweat. That's why I thought trying AMD's 8 core .

Ok, you are correct in that streaming while gaming does typically engage more CPU cores than gaming alone. What games do you typically play, or want to play? What screen resolution do you play on? Are you looking to get a new monitor? Also, what's your budget look like? How much are you willing to spend? I don't need to know your absolute top limit ( no need to break the bank just for games ) but a general idea is helpful.

Regarding the FX-8350, I generally advise against it in a gaming machine. If you absolutely need eight cores and will keep them busy, the 8350 is the cheapest way to go. Outside that, I think you can get better value. As a power hungry chip, you often have to spend more to get a better motherboard and CPU cooler to support it, especially if you intend to overclock it. Doing that usually means you spend more on the platform as a whole than you would on a basic i5 setup, which I consider a much better value for most people and use cases. The 8320LE is a little cheaper and less power hungry, but I think the FX-6300 is AMD's best value right now. It's about $100 for the chip alone and it's also much more forgiving on mboards and cooling solutions than the 8000 chips are. If you have extra money to spend and want a really strong CPU, look and the Xeon E3 line. The 1230 series offers i7 levels of performance, they just can't be overclocked ( but CPU OCing is generally not very helpful for games ).

 

[TheMrWrecker]

You know, you already convinced me in buying intel.

I would like to play new games as they come out. The games which I play more regularly like TF2 are not demanding, but I still can't run them and let's say elgato at once without studder. I play on 1080p monitor and I don't feel like switching soon. My budget for CPU is about 250 euros. Because I have LGA1155 mobo I will also have to upgrade that. So let's say I have money for those two. After buying these parts I plan to do a brake and come back for other parts as soon as I get more money

I have a thought about just upgrading my CPU to i7-2700K. The problem is my current setup i3-2100 and PCIE 2 mobo doesn't use full potential of my GPU. Will it do it then? I don't know? I guess not, because of PICE 2, right?

 

[tiny voices]

No GPU will be slowed down by your board. Even a gtx980ti loses less than 2-3% performance in synthetic benchmarks on PCI 2.0. Nothing that can even be seen. You have nothing to worry about.

 

[TheMrWrecker]

So basically I just need a new CPU to improve my performance now? Instead of mobo I could buy an SSD. Will I'llbe ale to overclock a i7-2700k? I know it won't be Z97 kind of measures but still. I was also planning to buy noctua heatsink and fans so they will help right?

 

[G-star93]

yes NH-D15 is something like 240mm AIO's and you can OC Sandy bridge very well.

 

[tiny voices]

Yes if you have a z77 motherboard you can overclock the 2700k, but you don;t even need to overclock it at all for max performance.

 

[TheMrWrecker]

I am aware of that. Do you think I will be able to stream and game at max gpu performance with this setup?

GPU: Sapphire 380X Nitro OC
CPU: i7-2700K
8GB of RAM
1080 Panel.

 

[tiny voices]

Yes easily. You could use a much higher end GPU even.

you don;t even need a 2700k. If you can get a 2600 for less money, do that. Don't bother buying a K series CPU if you are not equipped t overclock it.

 

[TheMrWrecker]

I am really not equiped right now but I am planning to spend money on case ventilation and etc. Maybe I should just little by little upgrade to Skylake? You know, CPU and MOBO. I am really scared of future prooof factor. It might look stupid but I am student and I am counting every penny It looks like easy and cheap to just upgrade my CPU now I am afraid that after some time it will be old and useless.
Building a new PC little by little is also a little bit stupid, because you don't know when you will have money for next part, and other parts might get out of their dominant era. So maybe buying new parts like that has an advantage. What do you think?
You really helped me so far, so thank you!

 

[tiny voices]

There is no such thing as future proof with PCs. forget that concept.

An i7 2600/2700 will not be outdated for a LONG time. My GF games on an i5 2310 and easily maxes 2015 games with no issue.

I would upgrade your CPU. What motherboard do you have? There is a chance that all you need to do is update the BIOS and you can use Ivy Bridge CPU. Then you could get something like an i5 3570 or an i7 3770 which have YEARS and YEARS of life left before they even remotely begin to struggle.

 

[TheMrWrecker]

My motherboard is H61M-D2H-USB3
LGA 1155

 

[tiny voices]

That board will not overclock. Download/install the most recent BIOS version and buy an Ivy bridge locked i5 or i7.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

There is no such thing as future proof with PCs. forget that concept.

An i7 2600/2700 will not be outdated for a LONG time.

If they're not going to be outdated, then I guess you can almost say they're future-proof. Contradiction, eh?

 

[tiny voices]

No, being future proof and being capable and not outdated are completely different things.

 

[TheMrWrecker]

There is no such thing as future proof with PCs. forget that concept.

An i7 2600/2700 will not be outdated for a LONG time.

If they're not going to be outdated, then I guess you can almost say they're future-proof. Contradiction, eh?

Just don't start a fire on this debate here, please. tiny voices helped me a lot in this case.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

There is no such thing as future proof with PCs. forget that concept.

An i7 2600/2700 will not be outdated for a LONG time.

If they're not going to be outdated, then I guess you can almost say they're future-proof. Contradiction, eh?

Just don't start a fire on this debate here, please. tiny voices helped me a lot in this case.

I was just joking

 

[TheMrWrecker]

That board will not overclock. Download/install the most recent BIOS version and buy an Ivy bridge locked i5 or i7.

Ups! I picked a solution accidentally There are some questions I want to ask you. So do I just download and install them like normal program? Nothing sepecial here? Ivy Bridge is third gen yes? like i5 3570 and i7 3770?

 

[TheMrWrecker]

There is no such thing as future proof with PCs. forget that concept.

An i7 2600/2700 will not be outdated for a LONG time.

If they're not going to be outdated, then I guess you can almost say they're future-proof. Contradiction, eh?

Just don't start a fire on this debate here, please. tiny voices helped me a lot in this case.

I was just joking

And it was funny

 

[tiny voices]

That board will not overclock. Download/install the most recent BIOS version and buy an Ivy bridge locked i5 or i7.

Ups! I picked a solution accidentally There are some questions I want to ask you. So do I just download and install them like normal program? Nothing sepecial here? Ivy Bridge is third gen yes? like i5 3570 and i7 3770?

Yes ivy bridge is 3rd gen.

No, you have to download gigabyte @BIOS (also from the same place) whihc will flash the BIOS for you.

 

[TheMrWrecker]

Yes I already got it. So now I just have to run exe or FLASHSPI?

 

[tiny voices]

OP is buying an ivy/sandy bridge CPU (probably i7). This has been decided already.

 

[tiny voices]

Yes I already got it. So now I just have to run exe or FLASHSPI?

Run @BIOS and follow the directions.

 

[TheMrWrecker]

The FPS is not even 30 at many games. It's because of video card they are using, right? Mine will go better, yes?

 

[TheMrWrecker]

OP is buying an ivy/sandy bridge CPU (probably i7). This has been decided already.

YES!

 

[tiny voices]

They used an HD7870, so yes you will have better FPS, and if you get an i7, not an i5 you will have better streaming performance than either of those CPUs.