Ranth
Honorable
Juan what I don't get is that you seem (atleast to me) say that the principle of locality will fix all problems with thermal-density. Then could you explain to me why we haven't seen any high end server apus? You said the resarch was done several years ago, if this "principle of locality" was the holy grail of performance per mm^2 that you make it look like, why haven't we seen it ramping up earlier? Why is it that there afaik is 3-5 years until we see such product?
It might be my lack of patience to search through the net, but would you give me an article with Intel dropping the xeon + phi for an apu like alternative? I can see AMD focus on the APU since they can't compete with intel in the high-end server space, and Nvidia too, since they are in the same boat as AMD (HOWEVER i Don't know enough on this subject, but I to see nvidias golden egg before I believe it).
Also I don't claim that I have more knowledge than the engineers, that is just you calling me out for being stupid, and from my point of view that is an attempt to try to get me to shut up... Also I'm not saying you are wrong I just do not believe you, because of lack of evidence/proof/counter argument to the points above.
The real important stuff:
I am on these forums to become smarter(!), but as it is with the internet I do NOT trust it, so if something sounds far fetched (Which the idea of the 'principle of locality', negating the effects of thermal density does) I tend to try an argue against it. I would love if you could try and explain how it works, BECAUSE I want to become smarter, telling me that some weird quantum effect causes tdp to not matter, without explaining why, doesn't do me anything...
So what I would love for you to do is:
Explain how this "principle of locality" works, and HOW it negates thermal density <-- (That is what I do not get)
AND i DO NOT want the "well obviously this is teh best since all the clever people are doing it" No I want to know why.
It might be my lack of patience to search through the net, but would you give me an article with Intel dropping the xeon + phi for an apu like alternative? I can see AMD focus on the APU since they can't compete with intel in the high-end server space, and Nvidia too, since they are in the same boat as AMD (HOWEVER i Don't know enough on this subject, but I to see nvidias golden egg before I believe it).
Also I don't claim that I have more knowledge than the engineers, that is just you calling me out for being stupid, and from my point of view that is an attempt to try to get me to shut up... Also I'm not saying you are wrong I just do not believe you, because of lack of evidence/proof/counter argument to the points above.
The real important stuff:
I am on these forums to become smarter(!), but as it is with the internet I do NOT trust it, so if something sounds far fetched (Which the idea of the 'principle of locality', negating the effects of thermal density does) I tend to try an argue against it. I would love if you could try and explain how it works, BECAUSE I want to become smarter, telling me that some weird quantum effect causes tdp to not matter, without explaining why, doesn't do me anything...
So what I would love for you to do is:
Explain how this "principle of locality" works, and HOW it negates thermal density <-- (That is what I do not get)
AND i DO NOT want the "well obviously this is teh best since all the clever people are doing it" No I want to know why.