juanrga :
blackkstar :
Understanding Juanrga is a lot more easier if you realize that he's basically the first real ARM fanboy to defend ARM so heavily.
The footnotes in the Nvidia slides where they're making all these claims are laughable at best. Lines like "estimates" and "20 percent margin of error" and "PS3 only using one core and no SPUs".
Nvidia always does this with Tegra. They hype it up like none-other. In fact, they even boasted Tegra 2 was on 360 levels and you'd have the power of a console in your pocket. And look how that turned out.
The truth is Tegra K1 final silicon is a long ways away, at least 10 months. We will be talking about Excavator at that point, and the other ARM companies wilil probably be with ARM64 then too.
Nvidia always starts hyping Tegra way before it's actually due. They're very good at marketing, and if Qualcomm or Samsung were out here hyping their ARM products that would ber coming out around the time of Tegra, people would be going crazy too.
You have used my comments about Denver core made in another part to launch here an anti-Nvidia rant... and you call "fanboy" to others! LOL
But at least this time you are spelling my nickname correctly. Thanks!
Haha, I'm learning
But Juan, the thing is that I don't think it's necessarily bad to be a fanboy to a certain extent. I'm arguably a fanboy for HEDT platforms with serious power, and you're more for low power ARM. I don't know, maybe fanboy is not the right word for what I'm describing, since we both are more aligned with platforms as opposed to brands.
But Nvidia has a massive history of lying about Tegra and making it sound far better than it really is. I would give it a few weeks or so until Nvidia's lies start to show up. We're already seeing them with the 2w figure being used when playing regular games, like Angry Birds and Bejeweled clones, which are all 2d games that use sprites and probably aren't even GPU accelerated.
I'm always very pessimistic when Nvidia talks about ARM. If this was Qualcomm or Samsung, or even Apple (which I despise), I'd be a little more optimistic about what they're claiming. I just feel like this is basically the 5th time Nvidia has gotten on stage and talked about how amazing Tegra was, how it would beat the x86 CPU of the day, etc.
"Tegra 2 faster than Core 2 Duo":
http://androidcommunity.com/kal-el-nvidia-chipset-benchmarked-against-core2duo-and-tegra-2-20110218/
"Tegra 3 faster than Core 2 Duo":
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/nvidia-says-tegra-3-is-a-pc-class-cpu-has-screenshots-to-prov/
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/2/21/why-nvidiae28099s-tegra-3-is-faster-than-a-core-2-duo-t7200.aspx
Tegra 4 faster than Snapdragon 800:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-the-NVIDIA-Tegra-4-faster-than-the-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-800_id40741
in reality, not really:
http://tabshowdown.blogspot.com/2013/11/apple-a7-vs-nvidia-tegra-4.html
Now, Tegra K1, faster than the latest x86 cpu!
See the trend? Nvidia has done nothing but cherry pick benchmarks and exaggerate potential of their Tegra chips for nearly as long as they have existed.
You can do your own googling and take a look, I just gave this post a few minutes of my time. But Nvidia has pretty much always lied about their performance of their Tegra chips.