blackkstar :
AMD would have been much better off floating 6 core K10 CPUs until Piledriver came out. I have a really good feeling that they would have just remained in their "not as good as Intel but still not bad" position instead of "BULLDOZER IS SUX LOOK AT SUPERPI!!!"
exactly my point
when they went from 65nm to 45nm they got ( comparing quad core versions )
1.1GHz higher clock
27mm^2 less die area
same tdp
in short, they gave 40% higher performance (40% is clock rate only, so if i count other improvements too then it is 50% increase ) which costs 10% less to amd to manufacture ( both on soi )
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/325/AMD_Phenom_II_X4_980_vs_AMD_Phenom_X4_9950_(125W).html
if i compare 1100 vs 9950 then clock and core advantage turns out to be 90% but more die area
so if they can provide this much gain just by die shrink then they can provide this by another die shrink ( don't know what was the cause of low clocks on k10 in fm1 apu, maybe tom and jerry ( cartoon ) did some damage to their tweaked chart/design
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they should have added more l2 and l3 cache and should have tweaked the memory controller ( by clocking my ram at 1800mhz and NB at 2.7Ghz i get 5-8% higher score in cinebench at same cpu speed (1090t@3.6GHz), which means 3.6Ghz ( nb and ram tweak) behaves like 3.8-3.9GHz (stock nb and ram))
my estimation/calculation is that they can get 50-66% more multithreaded performance ( over 1100t) by die shrinking, adding more cores and clock speed keeping same 125w tdp ( means it will be better than 8350 which got only 15-20% performance increase (CB11.5) by increasing raw power ( clock and core ) by total of 66% )
i suspect that even steamroller won't be able to match these hypothetical 32nm phenoms ( 8 k10 cores at 3.6 - 4GHz )
intel is doing die shrink and little tweaking to their sandy/ivy/has/broad, so why not amd ( we all know that it will take miracle for amd to catch intel in per core ipc, so better is to save R&D cost )
intel did good thing when they ditched the pentium 4, but amd is carrying bulldozer stupidity
this is the first amd based tab that i have seen which will be launched for Indian market
but it will have window !
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nokia tried to sell windows based phone and then it went down in market share, i would have bought lumia 525 asap but won't buy it due to windows on it, no other brand provide this much specification at that price range (not even these cheap indo-chinese manufacturer)
i am sure that they will price this xolo win tab in INR20-30k range
de5_Roy :
afaik, indian markets are swarmed by mediatek-powered tablets.
absolutely correct
now every Indian phone manufacturer is providing mediatek's quad and dual core which are based on cortex-a7 paired with crappy gpu
to top it up, they are launching every good speced phone in phablet segment, even their mini version comes in phablet segment ( like canvas turbo mini ), every manufacturer is making this phablet insanity, only Apple is not doing such stupidity
and now what, we are seeing true octa core based phablets, which have ( as per my expectations ) mediatek's chipset (mt6592), Y U No Providing Krait
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( cheapest krait based android available here is xperia M and maybe Hawaii hw-01e too ( not sure about this one ))
the one that have phone's form factor ( 4" ) have very low specs like only 512MB ram even my almost 2 year old phone (which costed me same as these new 512MB phones) have 512MB ram ( when i purchased my phone, nokia was selling lumia 510 which comes with 256MB ram, but now nokia's lowest end lumia series ( series 5 ) have 1GB ram which is priced in lumia 510's price bracket, but these Indian manufacturers got stuck at 512MB only )