News AMD K6 and FX-8350 Re-Visited Against Modern CPUs: Ryzen up to 910X Faster

[blppt]

I had a 9590. Worst CPU purchasing decision ever. Not only did it eat 220W and require a water cooler, but it was absolutely spanked in games by Sandy Bridge and later, Ivy Bridge.

And the worst part was, not only did you need the cpu water cooler, but you also had to make sure there was active airflow over the VRMs on the motherboard or your system wouldn't even be stable at stock settings.

At least Netburst's swan song was competitive gaming wise as it melted through the floor--this wasn't good at anything compared to Intel's offerings except extremely ideal highly threaded benchmarks.

Its hard to believe that my 5950Xs are made by the same company.

 

[Deleted member 2947362]

Ah, the good old FX bulldozer debacle I still remember. I have owned an FX 6350 CPU before.

AMD created confusion as they advertised FX-8350 as having 8 cores, and the claim that a shared FPU unit within a 'dual core' module does not constitute an actual core of performance similar to a separate core/FPU unit.

AMD based the core count on the number of integer cores, and pitched its Bulldozer processors as the first 8-core desktop chips. This was a bad move actually, but I liked the bulldozer's architecture/design at that time. The Legacy still lives on !

You know OLD is GOLD after all. 😀

Actually, technically it is impossible for an eight-core Bulldozer-powered processor to truly execute eight instructions simultaneously – it cannot run eight complex math calculations at any one moment due to the shared FPU design.

On the other hand, Intel cores, for what it's worth, had their own separate floating-point math units.

Intel were on another level compared to AMD back then.
I swapped to intel after having the old Phenom x6 1090T, in fact I skipped all AMD CPU's until Ryzen Zen 1.

 

[Deleted member 2947362]

I remember my first ever computer build, it was one of the most exciting day of my life (back then) I had a computer when I was 11 years old
The good old ZX81 I know that was not a PC but it was that 1kb little system that lit the light.

I first saw my friend playing half life on the latest intel CPU of the time a PII 400mhz (slot 1 cant remember if had 66mhz or 100mhz FSB) I can't remember what his DirectX card was back then but he also had it linked to an PCI 3dFX voodoo 4mb 3d accelerator (very exciting words back then)

My jaw hit the floor! I had never seen anything like it in my life, I was totally in awe, gob smacked, I knew there and then I NEED A PC!

But the was One Big problem.. Having the money spare to build a PC.

This is where AMD and their K6 II 500mhz CPU saved the day!! finally I found something I could afford.

So I built my first PC based on the K6 II 500mhz cpu

I had no experience in building PC's what so ever, no internet to ask for help or any friends who had built a PC, they just bought Pre-built PC's

I had a the manual that came in the motherboard box, I read through it, scratch my head at what it all means?
The jumper many jumper settings the lot was looking daunting.

I had the cheapest case money could buy which included the PSU and really, It should of came with a pair of chain mail protective gloves! because by the time I had the motherboard fitted my hand where cut to bits!! lol

Sadly I can't remember the 3d graphics card in the build but I can assure you it would of been the cheapest you can get away with for low end gaming I think the brand name might have been Sparkle, but I didn't care! I had a powerful 500mhz computer which was a whole 100mhz more than my mates PII 400mhz and I will rule the world on the cheap!

Anyway I soon learned that my mates PII 400mhz cpu kicked my k6 II 500mhz as*

None the less that PC was my baby, It was my dream PC (well alright, it was all I could afford then), I loved that PC and all the sub 20-50 fps joy that came with it.

 

[jerry6]

I Still have 2 8350 in my room both are not working due to faulty motherboards , but they worked well for 10 years non stop , might not have been the best , but they worked . will get them working again on a cheap music movie server for the house . Interesting test

 

[Thunder64]

"The K6 was originally launched in April of 1997 as the successor to the K-III"

K5 not K-III.

I was thinking the same thing. What the hell is a K-III? It was K5.

My first full build was a K8 series Thunderbird. That thing was awesome for that time. Following that, I went to an Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego core which was excellent and blew Intel out of the water. Next came the FX8350 which plowed on like a champ (and still does/will if I ever build a HTPC setup) until I built my 5800X based rig.

For all the talk about how terrible the FX series was, I loved my 8350 and it aged supremely well. Yeah, it wasn't a true 8 core as AMD had advertised but despite that it more than held it's own against other processors. Seeing how it still pulls decent frames as referenced in the story is a testament to the longevity of that CPU.

Thunderbird was K7. Amazing CPU for its day. FX aged very well. Unfortunatly at the time they weren't all that great.

 

[EMsky]

Back in 2005, I had a top of the line asus gaming laptop. it took about 10 seconds for windows xp to boot. Today, my processor is about 123x more powerful. I have 64x the ram. And my nvme is about 88 times faster than my old 7200 rpm sata 1 hdd. but yet, windows on my computer today takes more than 10 seconds to boot... why is windows so inefficient and slow?

today, under vmware on this computer, it takes a fraction of a second for windows xp to boot. i know people tend to be impressed with their boot speed, but i have never seen windows 10 boot in a fraction of a second like windows xp did. sometimes i miss the old days when my computer os only needed 128 mb of ram to run. these days, ive been able to run out of 256gb of ram... yes, gb.

windows is made for the future, because you need a computer from the future for it to run fast.

 

[Amdlova]

I have these cpu are great moved from a k6-2 for a pentium 2 later get a thunderbird 800mhz paired with a voodoo 4 good times.

 

[blppt]

I was thinking the same thing. What the hell is a K-III? It was K5.



Thunderbird was K7. Amazing CPU for its day. FX aged very well. Unfortunatly at the time they weren't all that great.

Plus it had one of the coolest names for a cpu ever. Even shortened to t-bird.

 

[g-unit1111]

Ah, the good old FX bulldozer debacle I still remember. I have owned an FX 6350 CPU before.

Seriously, even in 2023, we still get tons of requests from people who have problems with the FX-8XXX and FX-9XXX series. The 9590 is still considered a joke in tech circles.

I did have a rig at one point that had an FX-8320 and it was a pretty decent performer. But I am confident that my current Ryzen 5800X / 3060TI rig would run circles around it.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Seriously, even in 2023, we still get tons of requests from people who have problems with the FX-8XXX and FX-9XXX series. The 9590 is still considered a joke in tech circles.

I did have a rig at one point that had an FX-8320 and it was a pretty decent performer. But I am confident that my current Ryzen 5800X / 3060TI rig would run circles around it.

Actually there are folks who are still using AMD's FX series CPUs, and other older INTEL Celeron/Pentium chips. Most of them are running either Windows XP or 7 OS, and for casual light gaming, multimedia tasks, office use, browsing, the system does a pretty good job.

Obviously none of these old chips can match the performance of latest gen processors, but for Legacy and OLD applications they are sufficient. Even in some Cyber Cafes and schools I have seen some old AMD FX and Intel dual-core CPUs and systems still running. But the systems run much hotter with these chips.

Who knows after 20 years from now, any of the latest modern gen CPUs including the Ryzen 5800X will face the same fate as the FX 8350 ? After all, technology in the next 20-30 years will easily surpass what tech we are using these days. 🙄 👍😀

 

[Deleted member 2947362]

Actually there are folks who are still using AMD's FX series CPUs, and other older INTEL Celeron/Pentium chips. Most of them are running either Windows XP or 7 OS, and for casual light gaming, multimedia tasks, office use, browsing, the system does a pretty good job.

Obviously none of these old chips can match the performance of latest gen processors, but for Legacy and OLD applications they are sufficient. Even in some Cyber Cafes and schools I have seen some old AMD FX and Intel dual-core CPUs and systems still running. But the systems run much hotter with these chips.

Who knows after 20 years from now, any of the latest modern gen CPUs including the Ryzen 5800X will face the same fate as the FX 8350 ? After all, technology in the next 20-30 years will easily surpass what tech we are using these days. 🙄 👍😀

My mate is still using his fx-8310, R390, 16gig ddr3 with SSD

I gave him my old R5 1600 to try and tempt him in to getting a cheap mobo and ram but he refuses to and just keeps saying he don't need it and he don't need to upgrade for the games that he plays,

He mostly olds school MMO's DAOC, EVER QUEST, EVE online, world tanks, world of ships, old RTS games.

In fact he's the one who got me into PC's after seeing his Intel PII 400 and half life.

We used to be locked in battle with benchmarks

My K6II 500Mhz system SiS chipset (I think mine had) and Bio-Star motherboard springs to mind VS his PII 400Mhz Bx440 chipset based system Pre-built he bought from PC World cost him over £1500!! from back in the day

Can't remember if it was 1998 or 1999 to long ago for the old brain remember exactly lol

3dMark 2000, it was all about the onions!! and who had the biggest bag of them (the result score)

We battled for years through out our upgrade paths

ahhh the good o'l days

 

[SunMaster]

Who knows after 20 years from now, any of the latest modern gen CPUs including the Ryzen 5800X will face the same fate as the FX 8350 ? After all, technology in the next 20-30 years will easily surpass what tech we are using these days.

When I got home the other day I had no net at home. I turned out my server's PSU had croaked. The Seasonic S12-II 500 watt had been running 24/7 for 14 years. I replaced the PSU with a Corsair RM750x. I set this server up in 2008. I upgraded the MB and CPU in 2013. I then bought a ASUS M5A99FX Pro (socket AM3+) and an AMD Phenom II X6 1045T. This combo, along with 24GB og Kingston DDR3 has been running 24/7 for 10 years.

Taking bets on what fails first. The new PSU, the MB or the CPU,

 

[Garden-Gnome]

I am running Windows 11 on a FX-6300 with 16GB RAM and a Nvidia 1030 GPU. For browsing, office work and playing media it's fine. It's also somewhere to trial Windows 11 before 10 expires.

 

[cssorkinman]

The sun is slooooowly setting on the piledrivers but I still love to play on them - BF 2042 FX 8 core with 3070ti at 4k

View: https://youtu.be/P2ctgOvgvWA

 

[SkyBill40]

I was thinking the same thing. What the hell is a K-III? It was K5.



Thunderbird was K7. Amazing CPU for its day. FX aged very well. Unfortunatly at the time they weren't all that great.

You're right. I was getting things mixed up. My K8 board was for my AMD 4000+. I can't remember what board I was using with that Thunderbird though. :/