News AMD Might Be Selling Off Defective Xbox Series X CPUs

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After being the sole provider of silicon for two generations of consoles now - maybe it would be wise for AMD to simply release their own console?
AMD is in the business of selling Chips, not Consoles.

Let the console makers design the chips that they want.

There's no need for AMD to do something that would conflict with their customers.

It's a fundamental conflict of interest.
 

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After being the sole provider of silicon for two generations of consoles now - maybe it would be wise for AMD to simply release their own console?

Consoles don't make a ton of money for MS, Sony or Nintendo, they often sell them for a loss (especially early in the cycle). They make money on licensing for those consoles, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for AMD to jump into a low margin console hardware business without some decent software makers lined up to make software for it. They are much better off just producing the components and letting others do what they do best.
 

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After being the sole provider of silicon for two generations of consoles now - maybe it would be wise for AMD to simply release their own console?

Makes no sense, why would they try to compete in that market when they are supplying both vendors. Not to mention both of those competitors are bigger than AMD and far more experience with consoles. Who's going to develop games for an AMD console?

I don't think you are looking at the big picture here.
 
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After being the sole provider of silicon for two generations of consoles now - maybe it would be wise for AMD to simply release their own console?
I disagree though. Console makers don't make money by selling the console itself. And looking at the specs of say the Xbox Series X vs the price, it is obviously sold at a sizeable loss. If it was a cakewalk to start a new console and be successful, you would have seen a lot of console making companies now. The big boys such as Apple, Amazon, Nvidia and Google have the financial might and potentially hardware to produce a console as well, but they are not making one. Apple TV is a half hearted effort as a console.

I rather AMD continue to focus on producing good CPU and GPU and leave it to others to the specialist to produce gaming consoles.
 

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"$709.12, but the price factors in the Radeon RX 550, 5TB SSD, CPU cooler, power supply and case. "

That's a very juicy SSD for $709.12. That's almost free if you factor in all the other components.
I don't know if that 5TB SSD is correct. I've never seen such a weird number for SSD before, and the price is too good to be true. Having said that, I find that its quite disappointing that they disabled the GPU completely and replaced it with a low end dedicated GPU. If AMD could have just disabled more CUs and sell it as a complete SOC, it would have been the ideal solution.
 
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I don't know if that 5TB SSD is correct. I've never seen such a weird number for SSD before, and the price is too good to be true. Having said that, I find that its quite disappointing that they disabled the GPU completely and replaced it with a low end dedicated GPU. If AMD could have just disabled more CUs and sell it as a complete SOC, it would have been the ideal solution.
Yeah, lots of questionable bits on that listing. Even if it were 5TB of total storage, using 1TB SSD and 4TB HDD, that would be generous. I'm guessing it's supposed to be 0.5TB SSD -- or that the whole thing is a scam of some form. I definitely wouldn't try buying one with my own money. I wonder if I can get Future to order me one, though? Well -- order Paul one so that we can test the GDDR6 system memory aspect. LOL
 
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In this times of low stock for everything you can imagine, is really healthy to try and sell every single piece of working silicon you have produced. As long as you give warranty for it, then its good.
 

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Yeah, lots of questionable bits on that listing. Even if it were 5TB of total storage, using 1TB SSD and 4TB HDD, that would be generous. I'm guessing it's supposed to be 0.5TB SSD -- or that the whole thing is a scam of some form. I definitely wouldn't try buying one with my own money. I wonder if I can get Future to order me one, though? Well -- order Paul one so that we can test the GDDR6 system memory aspect. LOL

I think you just gave yourself a task for today ;). Seriously though, thanks to all of you guys for the work you put into this site and its content, hopefully that listing is not a scam though, its an interesting piece of kit otherwise.
 

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Yeah, lots of questionable bits on that listing. Even if it were 5TB of total storage, using 1TB SSD and 4TB HDD, that would be generous. I'm guessing it's supposed to be 0.5TB SSD -- or that the whole thing is a scam of some form. I definitely wouldn't try buying one with my own money. I wonder if I can get Future to order me one, though? Well -- order Paul one so that we can test the GDDR6 system memory aspect. LOL

It isn't.
Based on the listing, there are 4 options for purchase:
  1. 4599 RMB for the unit with 16GB RAM & 256GB SSD
  2. 4799 RMB for the unit with 16GB RAM & 480GB SSD
  3. 5399 RMB for the units with 16GB RAM & 1TB HDD
  4. 5599 RMB for the units with 16GB RAM & 2TB HDD
The info-graphics for the listing does list support for up to 5TB SSD (User DiY for expansion) so I guess that's where the confusion comes in.
This (storage) is via 2.5" expansion so that means the board/ system doesn't support M.2 NVME.
 

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Makes no sense, why would they try to compete in that market when they are supplying both vendors. Not to mention both of those competitors are bigger than AMD and far more experience with consoles. Who's going to develop games for an AMD console?

I don't think you are looking at the big picture here.

No no no. I'm talking like they could do what the Steambox wanted to be.

They could basically build a consolized gaming PC. Bring in all this nifty high-speed memory and storage I/Os they've made for the newest consoles and build a console that plays PC games. Kind of the same idea of Pixel phones with Google. It would be all soldiered together and unable to be upgraded outside of storage.
 

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No no no. I'm talking like they could do what the Steambox wanted to be.

They could basically build a consolized gaming PC. Bring in all this nifty high-speed memory and storage I/Os they've made for the newest consoles and build a console that plays PC games. Kind of the same idea of Pixel phones with Google. It would be all soldiered together and unable to be upgraded outside of storage.

Thanks for making it abit more clear. However I don't see room in the console market for another player, way too late in the game.

Google tried with Stadia and its pretty much a flop and they are much bigger with alot more resources than AMD.
 
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