AMD official "End Of Life" dates

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I'm not sure any of this really matters. We've known for some time that no new 939 processors were coming. Anyone that was actually thinking of upgrading platforms and buying a 939 MB instead of an AM2 was nuts (assuming they wanted AMD).

In the end, the prices of all the 939 CPUs are going to fall dramatically and you'll be able to upgrade on the cheap.

Also if you noticed, the x2 3800+ has no EOL on it.

The way I see it, this just means I'm more likely to upgrade my 3000+ this year or early next. In a month the 3800+ should sell for around $170 (give or take).

So by the end of the year, they're going to be a steal. Whatever I get, will more than tie me over for several years....hell, I can live with the 3000+ moderately OCed to 2250.
 
Regardless, it does make sense... The end of life of socket 939 seems to be a bad choice, since few will upgrade to AM2 until they see performance gains over Conroe. Probably most will stay with 939 and wait for the Intel price drops then grab an Intel conroe over the AMD AM2.
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While it may seem like a bad move to the consumer, from a business point of view ceasing production of S939 does make sense. AMD has been honest in saying that there will only be neglible performance increases between AM2 and S939 of the same model (i.e. AM2 X2 3800+ vs. the S939 X2 3800+). There is really no need to keep both production lines churning out two different sockets. Might as well shut down the S939 factories and retool them for K8L. Socket AM2 lays the groundworks for the K8L CPU.

If AMD simply withheld socket AM2 until the release of K8L, then that could lead to production problems because that would mean AMD will be releasing a new generation CPU and socket both at the same time. What they are doing now is making the switch to socket AM2 and let it mature to work out any bugs. By the time K8L comes out AMD will not need to worry too much about socket AM2 technical issues because it has been in the market for sometime. Will K8L be supported by current AM2 chipset? I would hope so, otherwise people who buys into AM2 will not be able to upgrade.

Anyway, to lure people over to AM2, AMD is only going to release faster CPUs for this socket. That may not be a powerful draw for people who already have a X2 4800+ or FX-60. But people who have older or slower CPUs may just switch to AM2 if they want the X2 5000+ or FX-62.

Yeah, killing off a socket may break some people's heart, but this is technology. Either accept that fact that you will eventually need to upgrade or simply stay in the past.

At last, someone that reads and takes in everything, not just what serves his purpose......BRAVO !!!!!!!! There is still hope (only because no one has figured out a way to kill it yet ).
 
People with 939's are not going to "just grab an Intel Conroe" Its not just about a new CPU, it's dropping $700+ on a whole basic system (CPU, Mem and MoBo) and the average enthusiast will probably wait to see what AMD's up to or just wait until 939 X2 CPU prices drop and just do a CPU upgrade.
 
The Likely Reason That This Is Happening Is Because Becuse Of The Slightly Dissapointing Performance Of The AM2s Vs. And 939s And The "Threat" (Thsss, Yeah Right) Of Conroe (Or Conhoe As I Like I Call It) AMD Will Likely Be Intruducing The Next Revisions Of The AM2 Showing Better Perfomance And Internal (Conhoe Rivaling) Core Improvments (Probably Doubled L1/L2s And The Possible Addition Of An L3, Improved Memory Controller And Possibly An AMD Version Of Memory Disabiguation, Macro-Fusion And "Inverse Threading" (All Rumored) And Large Price Drops To Compete With Conroe And Make The Entire AM2 Line Less Confusing And Better Performing.

P.S. Just Becuase Something Is Discontinued Dosent Mean It Isnt Capable And Unspported
 
The Likely Reason That This Is Happening Is Because Becuse Of The Slightly Dissapointing Performance Of The AM2s Vs. And 939s
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Simply no.

S939 CPU will cannabilize AM2 sales if both continued to exist. It does not make any business sense to offer two different socket CPUs for a prolonged period of time with basically the same performance. Not only will that drive up overall production cost, but they also run the risk of building up inventory that merely sits in a warehouse. That also drives up costs and increases potential losses.

It will also slow down the penetration of the AM2 motherboards in their intended market. After all, if the average consumer buys an AM2 Athlon 64 now, then he/she will most likely upgrade to another AM2 CPU 2 years from now. On the otherhand if the average consume buys a S939 motherboard, then AMD runs the risk of losing a potential future customer.

Why is that? In 2 or 3 years, the consumer may want to upgrade at which point the consumer will consider both AMD and Intel because either one will cost more or less the same. If the consumer already has an AM2 motherboard, then it is more likely for the consumer to stick with AMD because he/she can simply drop in a newer AM2 CPU; in other words it will cost less for the consumer.

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BTW, your style of writing is pretty annoying since each word begins with a capital letter. That makes it hard for someone reading your post to know where a sentence begins and ends. You may have something useful to say, but people are likely to ignore your posts.
 
Because AMD Will Likely Be Intruducing The Next Revisions Of The AM2 Showing Better Perfomance And Internal (Conhoe Rivaling) Core Improvments (Probably Doubled L1/L2s And The Possible Addition Of An L3, Improved Memory Controller And Possibly An AMD Version Of Memory Disabiguation, Macro-Fusion And "Inverse Threading" (All Rumored) And Large Price Drops To Compete With Conroe And Make The Entire AM2 Line Less Confusing And Better Performing.

P.S. Just Becuase Something Is Discontinued Dosent Mean It Isnt Capable And Unspported
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That's one hell of a lot of "IF's". Sounds
like you're REALLY holding your breath, and hoping that AMD doesn't wait too long, forcing you to come up gasping. :roll:
 
Because AMD Will Likely Be Intruducing The Next Revisions Of The AM2 Showing Better Perfomance And Internal (Conhoe Rivaling) Core Improvments (Probably Doubled L1/L2s And The Possible Addition Of An L3, Improved Memory Controller And Possibly An AMD Version Of Memory Disabiguation, Macro-Fusion And "Inverse Threading" (All Rumored) And Large Price Drops To Compete With Conroe And Make The Entire AM2 Line Less Confusing And Better Performing.

P.S. Just Becuase Something Is Discontinued Dosent Mean It Isnt Capable And Unspported
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That's one hell of a lot of "IF's". Sounds
like you're REALLY holding your breath, and hoping that AMD doesn't wait too long, forcing you to come up gasping. :roll:

You know they are........you just want to argue that's all.
Quite pitiful, and not just you. I'm not gonna point y'all out, you know who you are.
 
Its a pitty to see AMD phasing out S939 so soon as they kept up support for Socket A and Socket 754 (abeit through the Sempron value line) for a long time after these platforms were superceded, espeically as performance wise S939 is on a par with AM2 in most situations and represents better value, simply because decent DDR2-800 DIMMs are still expensive. Hopefully AMD's clearance of S939 stock will prove beneficial to anyone wanting to create a competent system on the cheap.
 
Thanks for the post, but this has me very worried. I was thinking about a new build with the am2 socket, but if their EOL is at the end of the year, what is the point?

What will be the main AMD socket for the next 2-3 years?
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AMD's AM2 will be the main socket for the next 2-3 years. K8L will be socket AM2.

AMD will be terminating their lower end AM2 Athlons because of the upcoming price drops. That will make faster models more competitive than a slower model for only a few dollars more. For example if you had a choice between an AM2 3400+ for $110 and the AM2 3500+ for $120 which one would you prefer to get?

Nice observation; in fact, it's just what is happening now: you have a difference as slim as $20 between the 3500+ and the 3000+.
As it is, it cuts the 3000+ sales, if higher, it lets the 3500+ down not to mention that currently, higher end semprons are totally out.
 
Its a pitty to see AMD phasing out S939 so soon as they kept up support for Socket A and Socket 754 (abeit through the Sempron value line) for a long time after these platforms were superceded, espeically as performance wise S939 is on a par with AM2 in most situations and represents better value, simply because decent DDR2-800 DIMMs are still expensive. Hopefully AMD's clearance of S939 stock will prove beneficial to anyone wanting to create a competent system on the cheap.
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True, but that sort of thing cannot continue. 754 and 939 kind of stepped on each other, and the Sempron I'll leave alone lol. AMD was sort of pissing me off with all of their CPU's, but Intel was far worse (I'm not bashing them but.....), a 2.6 GHz CPU in 400, 533, and 800 flavors ? I know they have to sell stuff but damn.
You need to get over the fact that 939 and AM2 CPU's are the same RIGHT NOW, and they will only be the same RIGHT NOW, look ahead and stop looking for an immediate answer to the Conroe. We don't need AMD releasing some cobbled together CPU just to compete with something that isn't even out yet. This is a time of transition, it's happened before, and I believe it'll be worth the wait.
 
AMD's Socket 939 and 754 End-of-Life Dates

AM2 Athlon 64 X2 4000+, 4400+, 4800+ will only be available for sale until the end of the year.
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That's great .. All 939 CPU has an expiration date in them that will make them to die at this date. So everybody will be force to upgrade. The only thing that will prevent that is if you change the date so it wont turn 2007.

This is my contribution in stupidity post after seeing supid things posted here...

You guys should really see a doctor and get a life...
 
AMD's Socket 939 and 754 End-of-Life Dates

AM2 Athlon 64 X2 4000+, 4400+, 4800+ will only be available for sale until the end of the year.
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That's great .. All 939 CPU has an expiration date in them that will make them to die at this date. So everybody will be force to upgrade. The only thing that will prevent that is if you change the date so it wont turn 2007.

This is my contribution in stupidity post after seeing supid thing posted here...

You guy should really see a doctor and get a life...

If you bothered to click on the link, it will bring you to the article on DailyTech's website. "AMD's Socket 939 and 754 End-of-Life Dates" is the name of the article and is "End of Life" is a term used by AMD. If you have a problem with the language then I suggest you contact AMD.

Also, if you dislike the fact that this information could be useful to some people then I suggest that you resign your account here at Tomshardware and start your own forum where you can dictate what get posted and what doesn't.

It seems you prefer to shoot your mouth off above all else.
 
I know it can be useful information, but most of post that is posted is not that useful... I would say .. rather stupid.

I did not say specifically that your post is stupid, just choose to quote your's.

I forgot to put a "s" at guy.. my mistake.
 
Anybody have any idea what this means for the "Real world". IOW if last ship date is 7/2/06 how long are these chips usually available for sale?

Also what about chips not listed here? I have a 939 board I was thinking of upgrading to a 4200 X2, it's not on the list.

~Matt
 
Anybody have any idea what this means for the "Real world". IOW if last ship date is 7/2/06 how long are these chips usually available for sale?
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As long as supplies last, but expect prices to eventually increase. For example, I think you can still buy an Athlon XP 3200+ as long as $240 doesn't sound too steep to you.

Also what about chips not listed here? I have a 939 board I was thinking of upgrading to a 4200 X2, it's not on the list.

~Matt
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Good question. Don't know.
 
I think this is good for them. They can keep up with Opteron Supply and start shipping more high end AM2s
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What it means is that AMD doesn't care about the enthusiast anymore, and wants to make sure they can feed DELL with Opterons. Just think, AMD's love affair with their fanbase is drawing to an end. Once you realize that you're a nobody, just like with any other company, maybe your LUST for AMD will subside.

Won't AMD be the first to release CPU's that can run DDR2 1000 mhz. RAM? The AM2 AMD processor line was created to run 800 MHZ DDR2 to compete with Intel. Intel was the first to release DDR2. I have had great success with the limited amount of time I have spent with DDR2 so far.
 
I think this is good for them. They can keep up with Opteron Supply and start shipping more high end AM2s
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What it means is that AMD doesn't care about the enthusiast anymore, and wants to make sure they can feed DELL with Opterons. Just think, AMD's love affair with their fanbase is drawing to an end. Once you realize that you're a nobody, just like with any other company, maybe your LUST for AMD will subside.

A Camaro and a Mustang will get a person from a to b the same but it's human nature to pick a favourite. I love you guys who pretend to be immune to favouritism.
 
i love how amd has screwed themselves over with am2 and their socket lives. 939 lasted for what 2 years. What happened to the days where sockets lasted for 4 or 5 years? Remember socket 478 with intel? That thing lasted forever. And it still has some steam in its processors. Amd keeps changing its socket type basicly every year and isnt allowing people to keep their systems for very long because the upgrade paths suck. They release a socket and then have all the processors out at release... for the next 2 years nothing new. Might as well get the best because there wont be better models to upgrade with.
 
i love how amd has screwed themselves over with am2 and their socket lives. 939 lasted for what 2 years. What happened to the days where sockets lasted for 4 or 5 years? Remember socket 478 with intel? That thing lasted forever. And it still has some steam in its processors. Amd keeps changing its socket type basicly every year and isnt allowing people to keep their systems for very long because the upgrade paths suck. They release a socket and then have all the processors out at release... for the next 2 years nothing new. Might as well get the best because there wont be better models to upgrade with.
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socket lasted but not chipsets
 
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