AMD or Celeron

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BTW, can we view the situation logically:
1)Person comes to the forums asks which of 2 similarly priced procs to get.
2)People say get an AMD, 1 chooses to stand out and says get celeron. Result-> flaming
3)Initial person who asked question comes back and says since performance doesn't matter all that much (as long as Windows works quickly) and nothing super serious has been presented against the Celery (ie it'll blow up ur block) said person says he has a tendency to go to the Celeron because he/she has used Intel in the past and been happy with it.
4)People call said person a troll/stupid/idiot

Come on now, what name are we giving to the forums if we cannot help a person without insulting?
Everyone take a chill pill.

The one and only "Monstrous BULLgarian!"
 
i must say something here, for over a year my wife and i both ran 1.4ghz tualatin core celerons, i used mine for flight sims and she used hers for publishing programs,and we both surfed the web and other things, both had 512mb sdram, 7200rpm seagate ataIII baracuda drives, 24x sony cd burners,geforce2 mx 400 vid cards, soundblaster live digital soundcards, Aopen mx34-u motherboards(in fact im just now selling hers after upgrading it to an athlon 1600XP, this was done to take advantage of ddr sdram) and they never gave us one ounce of trouble! they were quick,and stable as hell! and never lagged in our use,i have always been a big beleiver in building with quality parts, and all my systems, whether for my own use, or customers, are rock solid. the tualatin core celerons are great! they have 256k L2 cache! the only thing that some consider a drawback is the 100mhz fsb, while the p3 counterpart is at 133mhz, the celerons at the time were cheaper than the athlons AT THAT TIME, may be different now, but they still are pretty competatively priced, and i also know that he was talking about the new celerons, but i felt he shouls consider the older tualatin core celerons, as they are a very good alternative for an inexpensive office system. ok, that said, i await my flaming like a man!(cowers and begs for mercy):)

Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life Son.
 
Either way he goes, it'll be a low performance computer, but if he goes with some celery, it won't be as good a computer in terms of price😛erformance.

RDRAM = (ENEMY)^2
 
came here for same question. these replies make me ask
figuring comparable cel 1.7 or 2.0 to an amd based on price, is there some links to hard data on the benchmarking (non gaming) and more importantly judging by some posts here, the noise and heat output comparisons.

Also, doesn't this site have some benchmarking pages? someone point me there please.

found some, with search of cpu comparison keywords.

Also an article on heating
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/heatvideo-02.html
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by rocco on 11/04/03 09:46 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
You never know, he might do something performance oriented once in a while. Depends on what though--MP3 encoding will be direly slow on the 2000+ while gaming will be headache inducing on the celery.

RDRAM = (ENEMY)^2
 
hmmm
even so one has to recommend the XP.
The only thing the celleron is good for is Purely CPU intensive work.

Anything else it gasps for cache and memory bandwidth it just doesnt have.

<b>I am not a AMD fanboy.
I am not a Via fanboy.
I am not a ATI fanboy.
I AM a performance fanboy.
And a low price fanboy. :smile:
Regards,
Mr no integrity coward.</b>
 
Ok if you keep your fact Look for tha Athlon with .13 Micron. They are cooler. Now if you get the .18 Microns they seem to run Hotter so do the celeron at .18 Microns. So if you want a Heater Look for the Die Size.
 
An XP will destroy a celeron performance wise. A Duron would be a better choice than a celeron. The moral to the story is the past 12 months have shown that intel are second in both performance and price. If you dont require a gaming machine get a Duron or a cheap pentium 3 if you can find one but basically avoid intel for the time being unless your looking to the high end of the market and even then your still paying a premium.


If he doesn't die, he'll get help!!!
 
I've had a somewhat different experience with a friends computer; without asking advice, she bought a tualatin Celeron 1.2 GHz, and it felt slow as hell. I mean, way slower than a what I had at the time: an overclocked Duron 600. Now this was probably due to the worthless motherboard (ALI chipset I think) and crap harddisk, but let me assure you even she (not being a power user or gamer at all) was NOT satisfied with it.

Anyway, point is, Celeries might be okay and good enough for certain tasks; but it still makes no sense to get one, when the same ammount of money can buy you a far superior Athlon setup. A Yugo will get you from home to the grocery store and back, but why buy a Yugo when you can get a Toyota for the same money ?

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
> she bought a tualatin Celeron 1.2 GHz, and it
> felt slow as hell. Now this was probably due to
> the worthless motherboard (ALI chipset I think)
> and crap harddisk

Almost for sure. Those were the pretty good Celery chips really.


Shadus
 
Wow, too bad I missed this epic battle. If he seriously chooses Celeron, it's his decision to live with. The slower XP's are not as good as the P4's, and the rating system v. Mhz is stupid, inflated and misleading. That doesn't change the fact that the XP is a way better chip for the price and you can find great Socket A motherboards cheap.

Where there's a will, there's a way-even when it comes to screwing up.
 
Nobody cares if ppl recommend celeron or amd. What people get angry with, is when they recommend product with bullshit facts like AMD instabillities. That's what i hate.
 
Exactly! If he says, "I will get a Celeron because I love Intel and I don't like AMD" then I am ok with it, he's got a logic argument there! After all, many times our decisions are not only based on facts but also on emotions. BUT when he comes here saying that he has decided to get the Celeron over the Athlon XP because the XPs have stability issues, then that really pisses me off.
 
I'm not an AMD fanboy either - if I had the money, I would probably buy a 2.4C and overclock it.

Basically, there is a best CPU for whatever amount of money you are willing to spend...

At £50 (UK ex.vat):

XP2400+ (Tbred) versus Celeron 2.4Ghz = AMD win

At £130 (ditto):

XP3000+ (Barton) versus P4 2.8C = Intel win

Celerons are a joke; there is a better AMD proc. available for the same price.



"Some mice have two buttons. Macintosh has one. So it's extremely difficult to push the wrong button." - Apple ad. circa 1984.
 
I have 4 PCs. One is an XP 2000, a p4 1.8 and a p4 1.7 (skt 423), and a Duron 1.6G . The XP 2000 gets too hot, crashes, is very slow, and cannot run Adobe Photoshop 7 on Win 2k without crashing a few times. But the most worrying thing is that it sumtimes resets itself!!! The p4 1.7Ghz gets too hot, is kinda slow, and crahes as much as the Athlon. The p4 1.8Ghz is primed, but too slow. The duron is the cheapest and is the best........

Considering a 2ghz Athlon 64 can sumtimes out pace a 3Ghz PC.......AMD 0wnZ0rZ. BUT, the Intel is very well built. They have the best design, reliability, and compatibility. I used to love AMD for their price. Hell the Duron 1.6 was just $35!!!!!

Go fo neither the Celery or the XP....Duron rulez
 
Hmm, well...
I guess i hade wrong.
AMD is better, I think i buy a AMD
But i have a last question. Is it big difference between XP 2000, XP 2200 and XP 2400?
The XP 2200 costs 10$ more than XP 2000
The XP 2400 costs 10$ more than XP 2200
 
Well, if two out of your four comps are crashing, one intel and one amd, I think that suggests your cooling is rather poor and that if you built the machines you clearly didnt make them very well! You cannot blame instability on a processor. There are many people that run all kinds of machines without any issues.

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ok, that said, i await my flaming like a man!(cowers and begs for mercy):)
Don't worry man i'll protect you, my tualatin celeron (1.2) running on my cusl2-c @ 1.6ghz is super fast, with a radeon 9500 i can play modern games at 1024x768 with good frame rates. My only grudge with the tualatins is that their mobos are really expensive (ex tusl2 can run you 80+ $ even today) so you either need to do a socket mod or run a tualatin sloket converter, thats my only gruge. Other than that they are great and run very cool, hell i could cool my tully with the reese's peanut butter cup i am eating right now 😱 (i might have to try that :evil: ).




If it isn't a P6 then it isn't a procesor
110% BX fanboy
 
the higher the number the faster the cpu.

ex athlon xp 2000+ is faster than an athlon xp 2200+ (yes those numbers actually mean something!)


If it isn't a P6 then it isn't a procesor
110% BX fanboy