AMD Phenom II X6 1090T And 890FX Platform Review: Hello, Leo

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IMO AMD is trading water until Bulldozer. Hopefully they planned 10 year down the road and will have a doozy with dozer.
But for the price I think AMD takes the cake for most folks.
 
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why benchmark with old 2 threaded games ? at least try with bad company 2 or GTA4 or even dragon age
 

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Anyway, I will wait for the quad channel memory AMD cpu for desktop...

AMD Opteron 6174 CPU details
* Frequency: 2.2GHz
* Core: Magny-Cours
* Cores: 12 physical
* Packaging: G34
* Manufacturing process: 45nm
* L1 cache: 64KB data, 64KB instruction per core
* L2 cache: 512KB per core
* L3 cache: 12MB accessible by all cores
* HyperTransport: Four 6.4GT/sec HT3 links
* Memory: Quad-channel ECC registered DDR3-1,333MHz
* SMP compability: 2 or 4 CPUs per motherboard
* ACP: 80W
 

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I think we all need to see some more side-by-side comparisons using processors that better match one another as I didn't expect a $275 processor to compete with a $1000 processor. What I would like to see is AMD's 6-Core Vs. Core i7 920, which more closely matches in price and where consumers will be on the fence choosing between.
 

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Not sure how you're getting close pruce matching.

You can get into 6core AMD/AM3 mobo combo for $250

an i7 920 w/ 1366 mobo $400.

Basically, spend 60% more for the i7 920 and get about what 5%-10% increase in performance?




 

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Wait... where in the world are you guys getting these power consumption figures? AMD doesn't even have power-gating thus it's IMPOSSIBLE for the X6 to out compete Intel's chips that do. It's the newest, absolute power shut off technology Vs down-clocking.

"With Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, depending upon the work load, the power and frequency can be distributed across many cores or focused on fewer cores through the use of power gating—an internal power management unit that can “turn off” power to entire cores."


Anandtech shows WAY diff numbers; the X6 is a horrible power saver.

"The Phenom II architecture in general does reasonably well at idle, but without power gating AMD can't compete with Intel's idle power levels.
Under load Intel also has the clear advantage."

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed/10

I def like Tom's, but come on, these numbers don't at up at all. Ahem?

IMO the AMD X6s are nothing but AMD's version of a filibuster, until they can come out with Bob & Bulldozer... A great one at that, but nothing to claim "victory" about. Victory isn't about finishing second by .000000000000001sec, Victory is OVERALL performance leads at a competitive price range.
__Everyone knows that there will always be a market for the few 980Xs and EEs out there. People that run very competitive businesses and rich fanboys are of said market. So to even bringing up the 980x is pointless, since it's in a class of it's own and ALWAYS will sell. It's a marketing tool to say WE ARE DOMINANT, regardless of price they'll fly off the shelves. Superior MARKETING = sells more than superior products — FACT>.<
__Remember, like most gamers, humans are dumb animals when it comes to shopping, we all know this on here, well cept gamers; being the stupidest, most irrational, and fickle of all computer-enthusiasts. Don't get me wrong, I love to game, but in moderation.

Flames away! *Poof!*
 

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Wait... where in the world are you guys getting these power consumption figures? AMD doesn't even have power-gating thus it's IMPOSSIBLE for the X6 to out compete Intel's chips that do. It's the newest, absolute power shut off technology Vs down-clocking.

"With Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, depending upon the work load, the power and frequency can be distributed across many cores or focused on fewer cores through the use of power gating—an internal power management unit that can “turn off” power to entire cores."


Anandtech shows WAY diff numbers; the X6 is a horrible power saver.

"The Phenom II architecture in general does reasonably well at idle, but without power gating AMD can't compete with Intel's idle power levels.
Under load Intel also has the clear advantage."

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed/10

I def like Tom's, but come on, these numbers don't at up at all. Ahem?

IMO the AMD X6s are nothing but AMD's version of a filibuster, until they can come out with Bob & Bulldozer... A great one at that, but nothing to claim "victory" about. Victory isn't about finishing second by .000000000000001sec, Victory is OVERALL performance leads at a competitive price range.
__Everyone knows that there will always be a market for the few 980Xs and EEs out there. People that run very competitive businesses and rich fanboys are of said market. So to even bringing up the 980x is pointless, since it's in a class of it's own and ALWAYS will sell. It's a marketing tool to say WE ARE DOMINANT, regardless of price they'll fly off the shelves. Superior MARKETING = sells more than superior products — FACT>.<
__Remember, like most gamers, humans are dumb animals when it comes to shopping, we all know this on here, well cept gamers; being the stupidest, most irrational, and fickle of all computer-enthusiasts. Don't get me wrong, I love to game, but in moderation.

Flames away! *Poof!*
 
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Just got one X6 1090T, overclocked it pretty easy to 4 ghz with a minimal voltage increase for testing, temps are acceptable. Come from a e6550 (was time to get a better one), and its a great CPU in my opinion, also got the hardware for a very good price, and I dont think Ill really ever feel a difference in real world apps compared to the 1000!?!?! bucks Intel extremes, common intel, I get it that they are the best you can offer, but 1000 is ridiculous. God job this time amd
 

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Well, it seems pretty clear to me that this, at least for now, is an application CPU, not a gaming one. Effectively, the same goes for the 980, who would buy a 980 just for gaming? Odds are that most games will bottle neck cpu utility much lower than what a 980 can offer. As for the 1090t, there's really no point in buying two extra cores when games simply are not optimized (or the platform isn't). However, if I had to buy a system for graphical rendering, or any software that makes good use of 6 cores (and I suspect most 1000$+ piece of software that business use do), the power to price ratio of the 1090t is just unbeatable.
 

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[citation][nom]cangelini[/nom]Well, I had it in there for the GTX 480 review. It's a very GPU-bound game at the settings I'd *personally* want to play at, so I don't think it adds much to a processor story. But, for gaming, certainly a valid suggestion! If only I could phase out Crysis without getting called-out[/citation]


You could always use cryostasis instead.
 
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My last CPU was an Intel core2duo e6700, was good, lasted 3 years. My current (new) CPU is an AMD P2 965 BE. Won't need to last me 3 years because the new CPUs are coming out for the AM3 slot. My Next CPU will be AMD, and will stay that way until they dump the AM3 architecture, then I will assess who has the best bang for my buck. I am not about to spend $1000 on a CPU, so who is ultimately the best on the high end never enters into it. The $200-$300 will max out your $200-$300 video cards. At that point, it doesn't make sense to spend more.
 
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Tom's Hardware, why are you using a low-end server processor, something you use for virtual machines or rendering, and throwing Crysis at it? Where is the Sony Vegas benchmark? VMWare? Only idiots would use that thing for gaming.
 

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"the latest and greatest graphics cards really do need a capable processor behind them if you want to unleash their potential"
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Actually that comment is 100% false. Every review, including this one proves that the cpu has little to do with the graphic performance. Anything at higher resolutions like 1920, and using AA, there is NO difference with which cpu is used. Most people would be using higher resolutions and AA.
 
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Crysis has no multicore support just as left 4 dead .
These games arent suitable for hexacore testing. you can see the difference when games support multicore processing such as call of duty mw.
The writer of this article knows that and stil he recommends not tobuy the x61090t
im beginning tohave my doubts about the independency of this site.

LANTERA
 
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After running my $1,000+ Intel QuadCore Extreme to death, I bought a package:
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO Motherboard
AMD HDT90ZFBGRBOX Phenom II 1090T Black Edition Six Core Processor - 3.20GHz, 6MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s) FSB,
OCZ OCZ3G1333LV8GK Gold 8GB PC10666 DDR3 Dual Channel Memory Upgrade - 1333MHz,
I put it all into a 34 dollar Thermaltake case, and it has been proceesing graphics (Illustrator and Photoshop) working in InDesign, feeding my TV habit, reading E-mail, and a coule other apps, all at the same time. And guess what, this rig blows the Intel rig away. Hands down. The mobo has provisions for turbo boost and processor manipulation to make best use of the equipment. I had to upgrade the BIOS before it would recognize the six core, and then the fun began. I paid a whopping 700 dollars for this rig, and I consider it worth every penny. Been a speed freek for years, and this one got me going big time. BUY IT.

Anthony Wozniak
 

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Crazy fast! I love the new Phenom II X6 1090T sure its not as fast as the higher priced pentium. I am running mine at well over 3.2 gigs with a great video card and 8 gigs of ram. Its crazy fast on my 3d programs 3dstudio max,PoserPro2010 and Adobe CS5.
Specs
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban @ 3.7gigs
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 Motherboard FSB to 240 MHZ
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series (8GB) SDRAM DDR3 1600 PC3 Desktop Memory
XFX Radeon HD 5870, 1GB GDDR5,OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W PSU
Windows 7 Pro (64bit)
Antec 900 Case
 
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Can you please run these benchmarks again and include results for the Intel Core i7-860 which is the direct $-to-$ competitor to the AMD 1090T?
 
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