AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 'Black Ops' Overclocking

[Nintendork]

In video/audio compressión, render, virtualization, encryption, PII X6 1090 is on par with it 960 or even surpass i7 975.

Comparing i7 930 with this chip for thinks that matters is just pure intel drone nonsense.

Look at hexus review.

 

[RazberyBandit]

Great. Another super-clockers event where participants will use LN2 instead of the typical air (and water) systems most of the real-world users of these CPUs will actually employ. Sorry if I seem underwhelmed...

 

[kartu]

i7 is not "6$ more expensive". Don't forget Intel motherboards cost more than AMD's.

 

[abbadon_34]

should three catagories, 1) AIR , 2) WATER , 3) ALL ELSE (LN2 etc) .

Or subdive air into stock and commonly availible, then internet water to externer water, then whatever they can possible do with an unlimited budget and uncommmon expertise. Bottom line, price/Ghz STABLE , no power nor FPS nor other qualitative measures.

 

[killerclick]

AMD should just give up. Intel is clearly superior in all categories and will be forever so bye bye AMD.

 

[christopherknapp]

I guess the real "Wow" here is the fact that it keeps up nicely with the 980X in most threaded Apps, and leaves the rest in the dust. The Thuban you can purchase right now from Tiger Direct for $220 with Bing Cash Back.

Is the 1090T worth $220? Absolutely! And you also must factor in that fact that the MB/Memory combination is much cheaper on the AMD platform.

I will be getting a 1090T.

 

[EvilMonk]

AMD YOU FAIL!!!
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[sstym]

[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]AMD should just give up. Intel is clearly superior in all categories and will be forever so bye bye AMD.[/citation]

And if and when AMD goes bye bye, as you cleverly put it, will you be happy when Intel screws you over with some kind of netburst 2.0 architecture, overpriced processors and a lack of innovation?

That would be the inevitable result of the loss of AMD as a CPU competitor.

If you are an Intel fan, you SHOULD support a healthy AMD.

 

[jfem]

I'm excited to know the results of overclocking!

 

[thepontiff]

Oh thanks for reposting those builder I was having a little buyers remorse. I run at 1900x1200 where there is hardly any difference at all. Plus I paid ~ $220 at TD yesterday for it. The intel chips are better but in my case I don't want to pay $300 per each fps.

 

[twu]

[citation][nom]1st duke of marlborough[/nom]Just buy the cheaper one then overclock it, it's not that much more difficult without the black edition![/citation]

Overclock requires additional POWER. I don't know how you save $$$.. unless someone like your parents or girl/boy friend paying for electricity.

 

[klamathpro]

If you want gaming performance, go with the i7-930. If you want highest overclock-ability, go with the i7 930. If you want multi-threaded performance, still go with the i7-930. People tend to forget that the i7 does 8 threads and it's about the performance of a true 6 core CPU. AMD will never catch up, though this is a great upgrade for AM3 socket owners. If I had an AMD motherboard right now, I'd get this chip in a heartbeat. If I were starting fresh, no one can beat the triple-channel DDR3 performance of X58 and overclock on air of the 930. Both solutions are the same price when you factor in the MB + CPU, so really AMD is playing catchup even in the value added department.

 

[klamathpro]

If you want gaming performance, go with the i7-930. If you want highest overclock-ability, go with the i7 930. If you want multi-threaded performance, still go with the i7-930. People tend to forget that the i7 does 8 threads and it's about the performance of a true 6 core CPU. AMD will never catch up, though this is a great upgrade for AM3 socket owners. If I had an AMD motherboard right now, I'd get this chip in a heartbeat. If I were starting fresh, no one can beat the triple-channel DDR3 performance of X58 and overclock on air of the 930. Both solutions are the same price when you factor in the MB + CPU, so really AMD is playing catchup even in the value added department.

 

[gnesterenko]

[citation][nom]kartu[/nom]i7 is not "6$ more expensive". Don't forget Intel motherboards cost more than AMD's.[/citation]
And that they are introducing new sockets/chipsets for next generation of processors, so wheather you upgrading now, or planning to soon, you're out the cost of 2 motherboards, one to use the 930 and one for later upgrade.
As opposed to the 1090T, which works on mobos as far back as AM2+ (so you don't need a new one), and will more then likely be compatible with AM3r2 socket mobos when those come out, assuming I know AMD at all.
So its not just $6 + cost of different mobos. Depending on wher eyou are in the upgrade cycle, the 1090T can be a drop-in upgrade with zero additional costs (exception of maybe some new thermal paste?)

Not to mention that on productivity, 1090T outpaces the 930 and they match just about exactly in gaming. GPU is bottle neck and both are plenty powerful to feed said GPU, esp if you push them to the 3.8-4GH range, which is easy even on stock cooling, never-mind if you throw a quality air sink on there (Noctua or some-such)

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[miloo]

is already sold out in tigerdirect ~ impressive ~

 

[roleki]

[citation][nom]twu[/nom]Overclock requires additional POWER. I don't know how you save $$$.. unless someone like your parents or girl/boy friend paying for electricity.[/citation]

Pack a lunch one day out of the next 365, and you will pay for the difference in energy consumption between a stock AMD and a moderately OC'd I7.

Of course, you'd be eating out of a feed bag every day for a year to offset the difference in the cost of the chips themselves.

 

[The Greater Good]

GAMES GAMES GAMES! Yes, they are awesome. No, they're not everything. If you're looking for a CPU just (or mostly) for gaming... chances are you're not going to buy a AMD X6 CPU. Intel does have AMD beat on that front no doubt. I wouldn't buy a truck for racing and I wouldn't use a sports car to tow a boat. Use the right tool for the job.

If you're looking for a CPU for video encoding/rendering, number crunching or exstream multitasking, AMD brings great value to the table. Add to the fact that this might bring all other CPU down a little in price is also a good thing, even if you're planning on going with a Intel CPU.

 

[hannibal]

Anandtech made it go to 4 GHz with standard cooler. Not too bad for six core... Not something special either. It seems to be relative near other Pentium II prosessors in that area. The Anandtech has normally not been very agressive with their overclocking though.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3676/phenom-ii-x6-4ghz-and-beyond-in-64bit-oses

 

[mouser21]

I agree about the LN2. I don't really care if someone could even OC my 486 to 10 GHz at absolute zero. I can't make that happen so it's still going to sit in my shed.

 

[CaptainBib]

The difference between the i7 930 and X6 is usually not more than 10% (win or lose), and when the x6 beats the 930 it is generally tied with the 975.

That being said, an i7 975 is basically a 3.3ghz i7 930.

It really is going to come down to clock rate, in heavily threaded apps the x6 wins at stock, but with the i7s consistently able to hit over 4ghz on air, thuban needs to prove it can keep up at these speeds to be viable. My 930 runs at 4ghz at stock vcore, if Thuban has THAT kind of potential then hallelujah: intel finally has a fight on its hands.

For an example, a 980x is $1000 and can be beat (at stock) by a $300 930 at 4ghz or higher. The X6 needs to have enough headroom to match the 930, the proc it is priced against, or it is just a paper tiger.

It's a stopgap measure, we all know that, but if the chip has loads of latent potential then it will most likely become an enthusiast favorite for years. Like the old C2D Wolfdale chips that everyone loved.

 

[alexmihai]

I gotta say i want one , a 6 core cpu at a reasonable price , gotta love AMD

 

[in0va3]

[citation][nom]in0va3[/nom]In the same vein, the gaming benchmarks are a reminder that the latest and greatest graphics cards really do need a capable processor behind them if you want to unleash their potential. An overclockable CPU like the Core i7-920 or -930 can really open up a Radeon HD 5870 or GeForce GTX 480 when you get it up to the 4 GHz range. Dipping down to 3.2 GHz doesn’t really help the 1090T win any battles in the games (Call of Duty excepted, where Turbo CORE seems to improve performance over the X4 965). If you’re a gamer, save the money you’d spend on a six-core CPU, buy your favorite overclockable processor, and spend the difference on graphics or an SSD to cut level load times. AMD’s hexa-core Phenom II X6 1090T is decidedly a productivity-oriented part designed to improve the performance of threaded apps. It extends the usefulness of Socket AM3 until Bulldozer emerges in 2011. As a result, your 790FX-based motherboard will do the job just fine—it’s probably not worth upgrading to 890FX at this point. Turbo CORE is conceptually a good answer to Turbo Boost, but I had a hard time proving its effectiveness in the real-world. Best-case, it helped the 3.2 GHz 1090T keep pace with the 3.4 GHz 965 in single-threaded titles.[/citation]

 

[deathbender]

[citation][nom]the greater good[/nom]GAMES GAMES GAMES! Yes, they are awesome. No, they're not everything. If you're looking for a CPU just (or mostly) for gaming... chances are you're not going to buy a AMD X6 CPU. Intel does have AMD beat on that front no doubt. I wouldn't buy a truck for racing and I wouldn't use a sports car to tow a boat. Use the right tool for the job.If you're looking for a CPU for video encoding/rendering, number crunching or exstream multitasking, AMD brings great value to the table. Add to the fact that this might bring all other CPU down a little in price is also a good thing, even if you're planning on going with a Intel CPU.[/citation]
Very well put.