AMD Pushes R600 Back To May

[bgerber]

If you were waiting for Direct3D 10 compliant hardware from AMD (formerly ATI) you will have to wait even longer. AMD pushed the launch of R600 yet once more.

 

[petevsdrm]

.....sigh

Your link is broken :?

 

[Track]

Goodbye ATI.

NEVER have they fucked up this badly.. not even with the last generation.

 

[NaDa]

This is really terrible.

I was hopeing for a graphic card upgrade but now we have to stick with the overpriced nvidia 8000 series cards.

 

[cleeve]

No they haven't, but Nvidia did with the FX series... 😀

And hey, what's wrong with last-genearation Ati's? The X1x00 series seems pretty bulletproof...

 

[IcY18]

not sure how you call them overpriced? a 8800gts 320mb is only $299, thats how much i paid for my X1800XT 512mb last Christmas, the other models are priced almost accordinly to their performance. the 8800gtx dominates all current game titles in performance, should it not be the highest priced graphic card on the market...

you should be happy its not retailing over $600

 

[Track]

No they haven't, but Nvidia did with the FX series... 😀

And hey, what's wrong with last-genearation Ati's? The X1x00 series seems pretty bulletproof...

You're talking to a long time FX 5200 owner.

The problem with the last generation is that they are DX9.0 and SM3.0.

The X1900XT may be my favorite graphics card, but i just cant afford to buy it right now.

 

[Trizomik]

I dont really know whats going on with ATi/AMD but I'm quite curious to know what they are planning to do. They certainly have some plan there, well, I hope for them
😛

 

[NaDa]

OK I can buy a 8800GTS 320 but it's only marginaly cheaper than the 8800GTS 640.
IMHO the cards are priced according to their performance but I think we will see better deals in near future and that would be sooner if AMD released the R600.
The die shrink will probably get us better and chaper nvidia cards.

 

[3Ball]

At this rate does anyone think that we may see the 8900 series revision before AMD/ATI gets the 2800 series (or whatever it may be) out?

Best,

3Ball

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Well, the R600 and G80 were first slated to launch with VISTA last summer, then got pushed back (first of many) along with Vista. It wasn't first slated for Xmas that was the first delay.

Also is nV gobbling up market share? We'll still have to see if that's the case. They may just be keeping the sale they had before. The GTS-320 is only a slight change from the previous quarter, and many of those sales will come from potential GTS-640 sales as well.

Only once the GF8600 comes out will there be a true threat to market share IMO, that and if a killer DX10 app comes out.

I wouldn't be suprised if we'll see some Vista bumps, but not as many as if Vsta had been more popular.

I suspect the numbers will have a smaller shift than during the GF7 introduction.

 

[iG34RH34D]

Yeah this really breaks my gnads. I was more than hoping that they would release it a LITTLE sooner. I've been limping along on equipment almost 3 gens behind now. This would have been a great way to jump up to something better by the end of next month. Well I'll save my cash. Or maybe I'll give it to NVIDIA and INTEL!! Thanks for the kiss off AMD/ATI!

 

[tamalero]

No they haven't, but Nvidia did with the FX series... 😀

And hey, what's wrong with last-genearation Ati's? The X1x00 series seems pretty bulletproof...

You're talking to a long time FX 5200 owner.

The problem with the last generation is that they are DX9.0 and SM3.0.

The X1900XT may be my favorite graphics card, but i just cant afford to buy it right now.
because we know theres lots of Direct10X SM4 games.. right? 😉


you know, I wonder if these delays are because AMD wants ATI to use shartered's or AMD's own fabs to produce the chips? (make them compatible) ?
or

the R600 is that fast.. that to dont piss nvidia ( best chipsets for AMD ) they had to "delay "it so Nvidia can roll the G90.?

 

[NaDa]

You are investing in a new build. My trouble is that I already own a crossfire mobo. So I was really hopeing thet amd would release R600 sooner.

 

[Dr_asik]

*sigh*

🙁

 

[petevsdrm]

the R600 is that fast.. that to dont piss nvidia ( best chipsets for AMD ) they had to "delay "it so Nvidia can roll the G90.?

That seems pretty farfetched....?

I am of no real preference to which company I buy from, but I have this feeling that if I don't wait and at least SEE the benchmarks for the r600, I am going to end up kicking myself in the a$$.

 

[iG34RH34D]

I feel your pain. Guess we gotta hold tight and lick our wounds for the time being.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Murphy's Law,

No matter what you do you'll be kicking yourself.

- Wait for the R600, you might be kicking yourself for not buying the GF8800 and enjoying it all that time.
- Buy the GF8800 now you might be kicking yourself when the R600 is launched.

Either way it's likely whatever choice you pick increases your risk.

IMO, buy the GF8800GTS-320 now, far less of a kick factor either way, not a great loss if the R600 is better, and in the meantime, you gets lotsa gaming.

But then again I could be wrong an you're going to miss out on the earth-shattering religious R600 experience. :twisted:

 

[mad_murdock]

Once the DX10 games hit the market, I'll start caring. I have a X1900XTX and it's doing quit well. At least this way, I will of had the card a year, before replacing it.

Not that I'm overly biased to ATI. If after the release of the R600, the G80\90 card is better, then I'll switch over. I buy performance not brands

I would like to see AMD\ATI both release products that keep Intel\nVidia in check, I'm a big fan of competition and lower prices

 

[FatFunkey]

woo...siiigh oh well at least now ill have a enough for a quad core when i buy my new comp.... 😛

 

[quantumsheep]

.....sigh

Your link is broken :?

It is indeed 🙁

 

[Track]

Well, the R600 and G80 were first slated to launch with VISTA last summer, then got pushed back (first of many) along with Vista. It wasn't first slated for Xmas that was the first delay.

Also is nV gobbling up market share? We'll still have to see if that's the case. They may just be keeping the sale they had before. The GTS-320 is only a slight change from the previous quarter, and many of those sales will come from potential GTS-640 sales as well.

Only once the GF8600 comes out will there be a true threat to market share IMO, that and if a killer DX10 app comes out.

I wouldn't be suprised if we'll see some Vista bumps, but not as many as if Vsta had been more popular.

I suspect the numbers will have a smaller shift than during the GF7 introduction.

With the 8800 GTX nVidia is taking the high-end market pretty quickly.

The mainstream market is where they get the highest precentage of the buys, but it dosent give them more money and its the high-end market that everyone cares about the most.

Not to mention that even if ATI will have their R600 here by April, that means that it will take them until June to come up with an X2600XT, or who knows how much time, so nVidia is going to win, and how can they not? ATI is killing themselves.

 

[Krenn]

So, what does this mean for the upcoming batch of nVidia DX10 cards that were rumored to be coming out in March - will they still come out then?

I just built a new machine, but I couldn't afford a $300 card for the 8800GTS, so instead I picked up an incredibly cheap ($25!) 7100GS to last me until less expensive G80 cards come out. It's still an upgrade over my old computer (128MB 6200) but it's really just a placeholder for now.

Think the 8600 ultra will be available soon, or should I just wait for May? My budget is ~$200 for a new card, and I'd prefer a DX10 card, as I tend to buy a new graphics card every other generation.

 

[sojrner]

Once the DX10 games hit the market, I'll start caring. I have a X1900XTX and it's doing quit well. At least this way, I will of had the card a year, before replacing it.

Not that I'm overly biased to ATI. If after the release of the R600, the G80\90 card is better, then I'll switch over. I buy performance not brands

I would like to see AMD\ATI both release products that keep Intel\nVidia in check, I'm a big fan of competition and lower prices

agreed, brand-bias is lame. Get what works at the time.

Murphy's Law,

No matter what you do you'll be kicking yourself.

my 1900xt512 is still tearing it up... prb will for another year yet too. I bought it before the 7900s hit and everyone said "wait until Nv brings out the latest... it will pwn the 1900" and I almost believed them 😉 Honestly, I am glad with what I bought. Have been happy with it from day-one.

honestly, buy the most you can afford when you can afford it. Simple logic. Once you buy it, stop worrying about the next one that bests it and just enjoy the results. That logic has yet to fail me. (plus, it removes the resulting e-peni$ envy when you compare to the latest)

I think you are right about the 8800... get it and enjoy. Personally I would go for the 640 meg if only for the bigger frame buffer for higher res textures and more effects capability... but that is just me. 😉

 

[bum_jcrules]

According to Q4 data, desktop sales were stalled and the suggestion for why we did not see a huge holiday season was that people were waiting for R600.

That being said, integrated is still king in the overall market but this quarter should see Nvidia gain ground in desktop discrete.

Jon Peddie Research said this...

"In the overall PC graphics market, Intel saw a flat quarter in graphics shipments in Q4’06, but was still the largest supplier of PC graphics devices worldwide. Nvidia remained the second largest supplier in Q4’06 but with a minor 0.3% sequential decline in shipments and decreased market share. AMD, the third largest reduced the gap with Nvidia with a 3.0% sequential increase in shipments and increased market share. The following table lists the ranking and relative market share, based on unit shipments in Q3’06 and Q4’06, of the major graphics suppliers to the PC industry.

Rank Graphics Supplier Q3’06 Market Share Q4’06 Market Share
1 Intel 37.1% 37.4%
2 Nvidia 28.8% 28.5%
3 AMD 20.9% 23.0%
4 VIA Technologies 8.7% 6.7%
5 Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 4.5% 4.5%
6 Others <1% <1%
"

Part of the reason for the increase share to AMD is in part from price drops and integrated notebook releases.