AMD Radeon Pro Duo Dual Fiji GPU Now Available, Built For VR

[deuce_23]

this is about bragging rights for AMD! now if i cant see a benchmark then WTF! AMD may have the most powerful graphics card but what is the point if you wont let anyone test it. i use to be an AMD fan boy but they suck so now i love my GTX 980ti

 

[turkey3_scratch]

this is about bragging rights for AMD! now if i cant see a benchmark then WTF! AMD may have the most powerful graphics card but what is the point if you wont let anyone test it. i use to be an AMD fan boy but they suck so now i love my GTX 980ti

Deuce, you do realize this is not for gamers, right?

 

[Guest]

This is both development and gaming card however too bad cause Crossfire in DX12 does not work. I am sick of Microsoft / AMD Windows 10/ DX12 <mod edit> exclusivity, can't wait for new Nvidia card to kicks some serious ass under DX11 / Windows 7. Remember DX12 doesn't bring a squat when it comes to additional visual details but it is all about to make sucky XBOX One perform better since it has AMD graphic card DX12 former Mantle utilizes in the best possible way. In other words, f. MS, f. AMD and f. Windows 10. Can't wait for Nvidia to bring another killer.

 

[Embra]

This is both development and gaming card however too bad cause Crossfire in DX12 does not work. I am sick of Microsoft / AMD Windows 10/ DX12 bullshit exclusivity, can't wait for new Nvidia card to kicks some serious ass under DX11 / Windows 7. Remember DX12 doesn't bring a squat when it comes to additional visual details but it is all about to make sucky XBOX One perform better since it has AMD graphic card DX12 former Mantle utilizes in the best possible way. In other words, f. MS, f. AMD and f. Windows 10. Can't wait for Nvidia to bring another killer.

If you take a look SLI is not so hot these days either. Both are having problems.

 

[bettsar]

There is no point in giving this card out for gaming reviews if they don't have crossfire profiles ready yet.

 

[siman0]

As a r9 295x2 user, all I can say is good luck with crossfire support cuz it's almost non existent. And as a future Nvidia HBM2 card buyer, good luck with AMD partnering up with gaming companies for reliable drivers.

I own 2 295 x2 cards in quad cross. Just set your own settings, works fine for me.

 

[siman0]

Id say its around the 1250 range this thing outperforms a 980Ti by 60% and a titan X by 30%

That's weird because I have seen countless summaries and reviews showing 980ti beating the Titan X more often than not. Weird that when you add a new AMD card into the fold it would suddenly reverse.

Allot of factors go into benchmarking the Titan X is much more powerful than the 980Ti. I own them aswell lately though Nvidia's drivers have been hit or miss... In SLI the 980Tis beat my Titan X SLI set up in single card the titan pulls out a lead. last nvidia driver update messed allot of stuff up...

 

[siman0]

Id say its around the 1250 range this thing outperforms a 980Ti by 60% and a titan X by 30%

Can you share with us the link to these benchmarks your giving us?

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-duo-pro-dual-fiji-1500/

 

[CaptainTom]

Good Grief, this is not a gaming card. It is a software and development card. Meaning for use with various CAD, rendering, etc. engines. Not Gaming...

Exactly, and this time it is actually true! With Nvidia's Titan it had a "GTX" in front of the name and only used (relatively) unstable drivers meant for gaming - so any arguments back then that it wasn't a gaming card were hilarious.

However the Readeon Pro Due has no "R9" in front of it, and it can utilize professional drivers. This truly is a professional card, and I think this was the right direction to take the product in (Almost no market for a $1500 pure-gaming card)

 

[siman0]

Id say its around the 1250 range this thing outperforms a 980Ti by 60% and a titan X by 30%

The purpose is for developers, not gamers. However, you could use it for gaming if you want to. It is still the single-most powerful gaming graphics card, whether or not it's marketed toward gamers. VR may not support CF, but other games do, and this will be the single-most card that gets the most FPS out of any other card out there. Note that I say "card" and not "GPU" because a graphics processing unit is different from a graphics card.

Play something like Fallout 4 with this, booya! Great FPS and a single card indeed. Better than the 295x2.

Its aimed at something more like the Titan is for Nvidia. Its intended use is gaming, but it can do workloads. The workstation version of the dual fiji will be more like the FirePro S9300 X2, more aimed at efficiency and air cooled or they may not release a workstation dual GPU card. These days people are making stuff and then sending it over to be rendered on a server cluster. Thus why workstation graphics power is needed less and less and efficient server graphics are taking the spotlight. It costs allot less to have your primary rendering in a server farm than running the HVAC for a room full of hot noisy computers. With clustering as well the time to wait for results is much less. Less downtime more productivity and so on...

 

[IntelDiesel]

There benches avaliable.They are great!!
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-duo-pro-dual-fiji-1500/

 

[IntelDiesel]

I've seen 3D mark benchies of it.

 

[Samer1970]

What is the point of this card when you can have the same by using 2 in CF for less price ?

 

[Gurg]

For the price it will have to outperform dual 980ti's. I doubt it will.

It won't. XFX Pro Duo Firestike Ultra Graphics 6848-6903

http://videocardz.com/59373/amd-radeon-pro-duo-review-posted-ahead-of-launch

My 5820k/2x980 sli Firestrike Ultra 7051

Newegg price MSI Gaming 980 after rebate $449. Even allowing for AMD fanboys this card is overpriced by $500.

 

[jasonelmore]

LOL right now Neither Oculus's SDK or Steam VR will use dual gpu setups. So SLI and CrossfireX is a non starter for VR, and it looks to be that way for quite some time.

The death of the dual gpu card happened several years ago, since modern rendering techniques broke it.

 

[Gurg]

What is the point of this card when you can have the same by using 2 in CF for less price ?

Make money from AMD fanboys with money burning a hole in their jean pockets.

 

[billgatez]

People who do CAD work aren't going to use this due to it's only 4GB of effective V-RAM. And VR developers aren't going to use this for the same reason and because two equivalent cards are cheaper and better represent what the end user is using.

 

[picture_perfect]

LOL right now Neither Oculus's SDK or Steam VR will use dual gpu setups. So SLI and CrossfireX is a non starter for VR, and it looks to be that way for quite some time..

Is it the VR hardware that is incompatible, or just that game devs are not supporting it.

 

[Samer1970]

LOL right now Neither Oculus's SDK or Steam VR will use dual gpu setups. So SLI and CrossfireX is a non starter for VR, and it looks to be that way for quite some time..

Is it the VR hardware that is incompatible, or just that game devs are not supporting it.

VR is actually a 2 screen setup (a screen for each eye) and I Think it is very easy for developers to make each card in dual GPU setup render the exact same frame for each eye.

I Think SLI is the BEST OPTION for VR !

 

[bit_user]

People who do CAD work aren't going to use this due to it's only 4GB of effective V-RAM. And VR developers aren't going to use this for the same reason

And GPU compute people aren't going to use this, because CUDA won that battle. Nearly all the deep learning frameworks are CUDA-only. Where OpenCL is supported, it's a second-class citizen.

and because two equivalent cards are cheaper and better represent what the end user is using.

Actually, VR doesn't currently support dual-GPU, as many people have noted. Clearly, AMD is hoping that by offering this card, some VR developers will decide to add Crossfire support.

 

[bit_user]

This could be aimed at Vulkan VR capable games as Vulkan utilizes more cores by default.

More CPU cores, yes. But you might be on to something, here. Does Vulcan make it easier or harder to exploit multiple GPUs?

Either way, I'd guess the game engine must have explicit support for multi-GPU. But I'm thinking it might be easier if multi-GPU support was a kludge, in previous APIs.

And since Vive and Rift both list Win 7 as the minimum platform requirement, I wonder if engines are tending to use Vulkan.

 

[IntelDiesel]

Wccftech has benchies

 

[bit_user]

Wccftech has benchies

True. The card isn't bad, but it's not equivalent to 2x GTX 980 Ti's, either. Hardly surprising.

Verdict: Too little, too late. And too expensive.

Worse yet, they won't have any new high-end parts until Vega, so this is it until 2017.

Poor AMD.

 

[uglyduckling81]

Wccftech has benchies

True. The card isn't bad, but it's not equivalent to 2x GTX 980 Ti's, either. Hardly surprising.

Verdict: Too little, too late. And too expensive.

Worse yet, they won't have any new high-end parts until Vega, so this is it until 2017.

Poor AMD.

They are hardly poor. They have the equivalent or better performing card at every price bracket.

I have a GTX 970 but wouldn't sneeze at a 390x. I would test it of course before buying it as the 290x 8GB I bought wasn't compatible with my Mobo for some reason hence why I now own a 970.

 

[bit_user]

Verdict: Too little, too late. And too expensive.

Worse yet, they won't have any new high-end parts until Vega, so this is it until 2017.

Poor AMD.

They are hardly poor. They have the equivalent or better performing card at every price bracket.

You're looking backwards, while I'm looking forwards... to NVidia's imminent introduction of their new lineup.

It's one thing to compare this to 980 Ti's. The situation will only look that much worse, if we're talking about 1080/1080 Ti. And it seems AMD won't have anything to answer back with, for at least the next 6 months. They are not in an enviable situation.