AMD Radeon Pro Duo Dual Fiji GPU Now Available, Built For VR

[uglyduckling81]

Verdict: Too little, too late. And too expensive.

Worse yet, they won't have any new high-end parts until Vega, so this is it until 2017.

Poor AMD.

They are hardly poor. They have the equivalent or better performing card at every price bracket.

You're looking backwards, while I'm looking forwards... to NVidia's imminent introduction of their new lineup.

It's one thing to compare this to 980 Ti's. The situation will only look that much worse, if we're talking about 1080/1080 Ti. And it seems AMD won't have anything to answer back with, for at least the next 6 months. They are not in an enviable situation.

For a start you know nothing of what they are going to release. People always think a new release is going to change everything. The reality is it will a small improvement as always. In all likelihood most of the lower end will be refresh releases while yields are low. It's certainly not all doom and gloom for AMD like Nvidia fan boys would have you believe.
Hopefully next year both companies will have new releases on new nodes and competition will be healthy.

 

[bit_user]

It's one thing to compare this to 980 Ti's. The situation will only look that much worse, if we're talking about 1080/1080 Ti. And it seems AMD won't have anything to answer back with, for at least the next 6 months. They are not in an enviable situation.

For a start you know nothing of what they are going to release. People always think a new release is going to change everything. The reality is it will a small improvement as always.

28 nm -> 16 nm is not a small improvement.

And AMD has released roadmaps that don't show Vega until 2017. I've also seen leaked benchmarks & specs on Polaris 10 and 11. So, whatever you're claiming I didn't know, I think you're mistaken.

Anyway, the GTX 1080 specs are now public, and this card has (allegedly) been outclassed by one costing 40% as much. We won't know for sure, 'till we see the benchmarks, but it's pretty clear that AMD missed the market window with this card.

BTW, I'm no NV fanboy. I have only AMD cards, so far, because their OpenCL support is better and I don't like being locked into buying a G-Sync monitor. However, if I get a chance to do some work with VR, this year, I'm quite likely to go with a GTX 1080 ...unless AMD manages to surprise us.

 

[uglyduckling81]

Sandybridge to Skylake is a bigger node shrink. 5 years of extra development and its still only 10% - 20% max performance increase in best case scenario. Your dreaming if you think they are going to magically make double performance figures as they are claiming. It's the CO's job to inflate share prices and that's what all his over the top BS sales talk is.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

And the GTX 1080 just made this card obsolete.

 

[bit_user]

Sandybridge to Skylake is a bigger node shrink. 5 years of extra development and its still only 10% - 20% max performance increase in best case scenario.

You're confusing serial vs. parallel performance improvements. With GPUs, node shrinks naturally lead to improved performance, since you can put more cores in the same die area. Don't take my word for it, go back and look at the performance curve of GPUs, over the past 10 years, vs CPUs. Moore's law only stopped for CPUs, because they already hardwired everything that made sense, could no longer keep turning up the clock speed, and more cores don't help their typical user like they do for GPUs.

Your dreaming if you think they are going to magically make double performance figures as they are claiming. It's the CO's job to inflate share prices and that's what all his over the top BS sales talk is.

There's always a certain amount of hype, but if you simply look at the relative numbers of sharder cores * clock speed ratio, then a roughly 2x performance improvement should be expected. Again, we'll have to see, but it's not going to be too far off from what he's saying.

I still don't really know what's your thesis, here.

 

[bit_user]

And the GTX 1080 just made this card obsolete.

That's what I've been trying to say.