AMD Radeon R9 300 Series MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[fudgecakes99]

Well than what about the fury x2? They have a release date on that monstrosity yet or is it still "summer". Because you know summers almost over after august it is right?

 

[Bossyfins]

Probably coming in septemberish. But I have a feeling it will still be 4 gigs of HBM, but what do i know.

 

[fudgecakes99]

That's depressing? So what is the general consensus r9 fury isn't worth it better off getting a 980 ti? That said i've been told that gigabyte makes the best heatsinks/ custom pcb's for overclocking does this ring true?

 

[Bossyfins]

I am confused if Asus/MSI make custom PCBs. Probably do. But, the EVGA ACX 2.0 have improved VRMS for longer life. So either way, your getting a good deal.

 

[nikoli707]

msi lightning and evga classified models are always the best overclockers.

 

[uglyduckling81]

man that just makes it depressing. Here i was saving my money to get at least good as a 980 ti card. Even if it were a little worse 2, 3 frames i could live with that. I mean it's a non reference card and overclocking should help at least more so then the reference fury x right? Custom pcb's maybe ones with custom waterblocks? Or is that not even going to happen on the account of fury x?

There is nothing wrong with the water cooler on the Fury X. The card runs at 50 degrees under load. It has plenty of head room heat wise for overclocking. No custom aircooler is going to make any difference.
The problem seems to be the cards are locked in the bios to prevent decent overclocks.
That may change with a bios revision later or possibly the HBM is very sensitive to voltage so you can't increase it.
A less capable version of the chip with less capable air cooling isn't going to make things better.
It looks like HBM might actually be a hindrance to the chips full potential honestly. I'm not sure if the GPU can have it's voltage increased without increasing it on the HBM at the same time.
On the other side of the coin it appears to me over clocking headroom has become a major advertising factor. It used to be chips were clocked as high as they could go from the factory. Now we all celebrate the GPU's being pushed out the door at lower speeds with the possibility of overclocking headroom with no guarantees. It's been a very clever marketing move from CPU and GPU makers.
The GTX 970 is a great example. I don't think there is a single 970 out there that can't reach 1350mhz (mine is stable at 1475mhz without playing with voltage) so why didn't they sell it as a 1350mhz chip? It means they need to guarantee a higher spec and it reduces the appeal of how much 'free' performance you can get. Clever marketing indeed.

 

[fcabanski]

What's the expectation for Nvidia's new cards? This whole round of AMD new releases has been underwhelming and below expectations.

 

[Bossyfins]

What's the expectation for Nvidia's new cards? This whole round of AMD new releases has been underwhelming and below expectations.

Most likely NVIDIA Pacal (GP100 etc). That will feature HBM but will be much more mature by that time.

 

[juanrga]

What's the expectation for Nvidia's new cards? This whole round of AMD new releases has been underwhelming and below expectations.

Most likely NVIDIA Pacal (GP100 etc). That will feature HBM but will be much more mature by that time.

Pascal will use HBM2. Fury X uses HBM1.

 

[de5_Roy]

Acer Announces Curved 3440x1440 AMD FreeSync Monitor - XR341CK Coming In July Featuring A 34" 75Hz 21:9 IPS Panel
http://wccftech.com/acer-announces-curved-3440x1440-amd-freesync-monitor-coming-july-featuring-34-60hz-ips-panel/
AMD Encouraging Users To Make Their Own Custom Fury X Designs - Releases Fury X Front Plate Model For 3D Printing
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-fury-front-plate-custom-3d-model/
Why you should avoid AMD and get a Steam Machine with Nvidia's GeForce graphics
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2934504/why-you-should-avoid-amd-and-get-a-steam-machine-with-nvidias-geforce-graphics.html

 

[Bossyfins]

Pascal will use HBM2. Fury X uses HBM1.

Thats what I meant 😛

 

[de5_Roy]

DirectX 11 is coming to Linux thanks to CodeWeavers and Wine
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2940470/hey-gamers-directx-11-is-coming-to-linux-thanks-to-codeweavers-and-wine.html

AMD Radeon R9 Fury X Review
http://www.techspot.com/review/1024-and-radeon-r9-fury-x/
Retail AMD Fury X Sound Testing - Pump Whine Investigation
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Retail-AMD-Fury-X-Sound-Testing-Pump-Whine-Investigation
AMD R9 Fury X 4GB Graphics Card Crossfire Review
http://www.eteknix.com/amd-r9-fury-x-4gb-graphics-card-crossfire-review/

 

[Bossyfins]

Good to see that Jay caught that issue up the first time around.

 

[oneskone]

Ok now,i saw live Asus and MSI R9 380,thay both have 1.2 dispaly port(1.2 not 1.2a,which from what i understood is from the AMD chipset not the manifacturer),BUT R9 380 suports freesync how is that working with display port 1.2...

 

[de5_Roy]

AMD Revises Pump-block Design for Radeon R9 Fury X
http://www.techpowerup.com/213993/amd-revises-pump-block-design-for-radeon-r9-fury-x.html

 

[renz496]

DX11? That abomination have no place in Linux world. OpenGL FTW

 

[deuce_23]

I would have likee to see AMD smoke Nvidia with this HBM. But lets be real HBM just keeps amd going for another round.

 

[renz496]

As i said many times. HBM will provide large bandwidth. But it will not going to magically make the core faster. But without HBM AMD probably not not be able to bring out Fiji with much more reasonable power consumption.

 

[17seconds]

It appears that one of the biggest advantages for Fury X over the previous generation is simply its improved tessellation capabilities.

Quote:
"On the other hand, the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X was a major upgrade from the AMD Radeon R9 290X. We saw at times very large performance increases over the R9 290X, depending on the game.

The problem was though that the performance increases were very erratic. There wasn't a predictable percentage of performance increase with the R9 Fury X over the R9 290X. This is because the R9 Fury X is faster in some cases where games use heavy tessellation, since tessellation got a big upgrade in R9 Fury X. However, if a game doesn't use some feature that was beefed up in the R9 Fury X the performance increase over R9 290X is much smaller. This means the kind of performance upgrade you will get over AMD Radeon R9 290X will depend on the game and the features it uses. Games like Witcher 3 and FC4 can bring big improvements. Older game like BF4 not so much. This means older games may not see as large improvements as newer games using newer technologies.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/24/amd_radeon_r9_fury_x_video_card_review/11#.VZVIcJVRGUk

 

[zared619]

Does anyone have any guesses at a price point for the R9 Nano? I know the release date is the next month or so, but I haven't been able to find much. However I did find this wki that seems to make no sense to me. It has the Nano listed as nearly identical specs to the Fury X.

https://en.wiki2.org/wiki/AMD_Radeon_Rx_300_Series

Any thoughts?

 

[Bossyfins]

Does anyone have any guesses at a price point for the R9 Nano? I know the release date is the next month or so, but I haven't been able to find much. However I did find this wki that seems to make no sense to me. It has the Nano listed as nearly identical specs to the Fury X.

https://en.wiki2.org/wiki/AMD_Radeon_Rx_300_Series

Any thoughts?

Probably nearish 450$.. It is near a 980 but below a 980 ti. So I am not sure where the fury is going to go

 

[ern88]

When I see fury. I see this as a stop gap product. And the R9 3xx just something tweaked and restickered and shipped out. Hope fully latter or next year we will see a fresh start on new vide cards with the use of new smaller GPU's and HBM 2 on all new cards from the bottom up. And if AMD can't match or beat Nvidia. Then AMD should just fold their table and chairs in the GPU department and sell out. Maybe to someone that will revive 3DFX and the VOODOO name!!!!! That is wishful thinking since I think Nvidia still owns the name.

 

[juanrga]

It appears that one of the biggest advantages for Fury X over the previous generation is simply its improved tessellation capabilities.

Quote:
"On the other hand, the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X was a major upgrade from the AMD Radeon R9 290X. We saw at times very large performance increases over the R9 290X, depending on the game.

The problem was though that the performance increases were very erratic. There wasn't a predictable percentage of performance increase with the R9 Fury X over the R9 290X. This is because the R9 Fury X is faster in some cases where games use heavy tessellation, since tessellation got a big upgrade in R9 Fury X. However, if a game doesn't use some feature that was beefed up in the R9 Fury X the performance increase over R9 290X is much smaller. This means the kind of performance upgrade you will get over AMD Radeon R9 290X will depend on the game and the features it uses. Games like Witcher 3 and FC4 can bring big improvements. Older game like BF4 not so much. This means older games may not see as large improvements as newer games using newer technologies.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/24/amd_radeon_r9_fury_x_video_card_review/11#.VZVIcJVRGUk

The new 15.15 driver for Fury X is optimized for tessellation, unlike the old 15.5 driver for the 200-series.

 

[-Fran-]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review

Anandtech's review is finally up.

They agree with me on the 4GB discussion and actually use very similar arguments, but they have data to back it up 😛

Cheers!

EDIT: Typo.

 

[de5_Roy]

i check at a little while ago and it wasn't up yet.
*starts reading*

edit:
Crossfire and SLI market is just 300.000 units
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/38134-crossfire-and-sli-market-is-just-300-000-units