AMD RX 400 series (Polaris) MegaThread! FAQ & Resources

[Robert Cook]

Has anyone had issues with the new cards not working on PCI-E 2.0 16x slots?

As far as I know nothing of the sort has surfaced, there should not be any issue in using PCIE 3.0 or 2.0. perhaps a bad slot?

 

[Rogue Leader]

Has anyone had issues with the new cards not working on PCI-E 2.0 16x slots?

Works perfectly fine on mine.

We do have a user who is hell bent on telling people that it doesn't work. What he fails to mention is its due to the fact hes using a Dell and they haven't updated their crap BIOS so it has problems with many newer cards (HP has the same problem). But even with boards without UEFI (such as mine) the new cards work fine.

 

[Sakkura]

Leave it to prebuilt OEMs to mess up fully backwards compatible standards...

 

[Math Geek]

it's not like they can't update the bios, but rather they won't. why encourage you to keep your 5 yr old pc when they can get you to spend on a new one. they don't make money keeping older systems running, they make money selling new ones.

same as cell phones. very rarely does any android phone over a year old get an os update. instead if you want the newer android version, you buy a new phone, knowing that the next update will also not be released so you can buy a new one again and so on and so on.

not like this is exclusive to the pc world, but holds for pretty much anything electronic.

 

[Rogue Leader]

it's not like they can't update the bios, but rather they won't. why encourage you to keep your 5 yr old pc when they can get you to spend on a new one. they don't make money keeping older systems running, they make money selling new ones.

same as cell phones. very rarely does any android phone over a year old get an os update. instead if you want the newer android version, you buy a new phone, knowing that the next update will also not be released so you can buy a new one again and so on and so on.

not like this is exclusive to the pc world, but holds for pretty much anything electronic.

Exactly, planned obsolescence.

Not to defend HP or Dell but why would they even spend the money on a BIOS update that will only affect 1-2% of their installed user base of a particular model. In their mind, screw em, buy a new one!

 

[-Fran-]

Not really. PCIe is a standard. If they slap a "PCIe compliant" logo anywhere in their products, they are liable to lawsuits.

Remember all the heat AMD got for the RX480? This might be similar to that.

Cheers!

 

[Rogue Leader]

Not really. PCIe is a standard. If they slap a "PCIe compliant" logo anywhere in their products, they are liable to lawsuits.

Remember all the heat AMD got for the RX480? This might be similar to that.

Cheers!

PCIe isn't the problem it has to do with BIOS incompatibility.

 

[-Fran-]

PCIe isn't the problem it has to do with BIOS incompatibility.

Yes, I understand that. My point is they are providing a product that advertises "you can plug in PCIe v2 devices and they will work". Yeah, no they don't (from what I understand here). It doesn't matter if it's because you went cheap on your BIOS coding or put an out of spec PCI bridge/chip/elf/ant in it. If it has the logo, you must comply, right?

Cheers!

 

[Rogue Leader]

PCIe isn't the problem it has to do with BIOS incompatibility.

Yes, I understand that. My point is they are providing a product that advertises "you can plug in PCIe v2 devices and they will work". Yeah, no they don't (from what I understand here). It doesn't matter if it's because you went cheap on your BIOS coding or put an out of spec PCI bridge/chip/elf/ant in it. If it has the logo, you must comply, right?

Cheers!

Makes sense, but I wonder if a Dell or HP would have such a logo. They don't have it on the casing, I've never seen it on the box, so unless its in the Manual somewhere.

There has to be more to it or I'm sure someone would have figure this out already and sued them.

 

[madmatt30]

PCIe isn't the problem it has to do with BIOS incompatibility.

Yes, I understand that. My point is they are providing a product that advertises "you can plug in PCIe v2 devices and they will work". Yeah, no they don't (from what I understand here). It doesn't matter if it's because you went cheap on your BIOS coding or put an out of spec PCI bridge/chip/elf/ant in it. If it has the logo, you must comply, right?

Cheers!

Makes sense, but I wonder if a Dell or HP would have such a logo. They don't have it on the casing, I've never seen it on the box, so unless its in the Manual somewhere.

There has to be more to it or I'm sure someone would have figure this out already and sued them.

Neither of them are daft,go to the support site for any prebuilt dell/hp or its included motherboard even.
Youll find a list of compatible graphics cards on there & thats all they have to state,anything apart from those cards is at the buyers risk of not working.

 

[littleleo]

Has anyone had issues with the new cards not working on PCI-E 2.0 16x slots?

Works perfectly fine on mine.

We do have a user who is hell bent on telling people that it doesn't work. What he fails to mention is its due to the fact hes using a Dell and they haven't updated their crap BIOS so it has problems with many newer cards (HP has the same problem). But even with boards without UEFI (such as mine) the new cards work fine.

Good point it had not occurred to me the problem could be the BIOS, ah well they upgrade their motherboards and the issue went away. But for future reference that is something I'll look into if it comes up again. Thanks for the feed back guys!

 

[-Fran-]

Neither of them are daft,go to the support site for any prebuilt dell/hp or its included motherboard even.
Youll find a list of compatible graphics cards on there & thats all they have to state,anything apart from those cards is at the buyers risk of not working.

Ah, we should burn them in oil then!

Cheers!

 

[lucas_7_94]

Fallout 4 will release a new HD texture pack next week, and in the requirements seccion, it says:

Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Intel Core i7-5820K or better
GTX 1080 8GB/AMD Radeon RX 490 8GB
8GB+ Ram


RX 490 soon?

 

[Math Geek]

that's some pretty high requirements. must be some super ultra mega hd+++ textures!!

 

[RCFProd]

Fallout 4 will release a new HD texture pack next week, and in the requirements seccion, it says:

Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Intel Core i7-5820K or better
GTX 1080 8GB/AMD Radeon RX 490 8GB
8GB+ Ram


RX 490 soon?

Think It's a typo to be honest. At the moment it doesn't even seem likely there will be an RX 490 at all (different name).

They just intended to list the RX 480 8GB I think.

 

[Sakkura]

Fallout 4 will release a new HD texture pack next week, and in the requirements seccion, it says:

Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Intel Core i7-5820K or better
GTX 1080 8GB/AMD Radeon RX 490 8GB
8GB+ Ram


RX 490 soon?

The original announcement from Bethesda doesn't mention the RX 490, it looks like PC Gamer inserted that because reasons.

 

[lucas_7_94]

No, they edited it. In fact, now they removed the AMD gpu.

 

[TehPenguin]

I think it's a bit exaggerated tho. It's like when Shadow of Mordor was weeks from release everyone said you need at least 6GB of VRAM to play it. It ran just fine on my HD 5870.

 

[Math Geek]

i read that it is almost 70 GB of new data to download!!! dear lord 1 TB hdd is not gonna be worth much at the rate these file sizes are going. gonna need at least 10 TB just to house a handful of games

 

[RCFProd]

i read that it is almost 70 GB of new data to download!!! dear lord 1 TB hdd is not gonna be worth much at the rate these file sizes are going. gonna need at least 10 TB just to house a handful of games

Think that was a typo aswell. They listed 58GB, but It's supposed to be 5.8GB.

 

[Math Geek]

that's a bit better lol

 

[-Fran-]

DOOM was 51GB download in Steam... And has 21GB+ updates ~______~

Cheers!

 

[RCFProd]

DOOM was 51GB download in Steam... And has 21GB+ updates ~______~

Cheers!

I have Gears of War 4. 90GB game size. Needs 10GB updates every now and then, you know, how it should be

 

[Math Geek]

lol, i fixed a pc for a friend and downloaded WOW for her since that's all she plays. that sucker was well over 70 GB with all the updates and packs and dlc and expansions and so on. my net is fast enough it did not take days but hers is so slow, it would have taken literally 3 days to finish!!

thought that was bad but 100+ GB for a game is just crazy.

 

[cdrkf]

lol, i fixed a pc for a friend and downloaded WOW for her since that's all she plays. that sucker was well over 70 GB with all the updates and packs and dlc and expansions and so on. my net is fast enough it did not take days but hers is so slow, it would have taken literally 3 days to finish!!

thought that was bad but 100+ GB for a game is just crazy.

A lot of big games these days... Star Citizen Alpha build is currently around 30gb... they are expecting 100gb+ for final game 😛