Discussion AMD Ryzen MegaThread! FAQ and Resources

[waveriderj]

I just got done building my Ryzen 5 1600X with an Asus Strix B350-F, 16GB GSkill TridentZ RGB 3000mHz, R9 390X (GPU), and couldn't be happier. Upgraded from an FX-8350. Amazing chips. Fast and stable. No RAM issues like everyone complained about in the early months. I don't see a need for a faster chip and setup for gaming at least. Cooling is the AMD Wraith Spire and idles @ 33*C. So suck it - naysayer "holier than thou's-" that say a Spire can't handle this chip. I get up to 50* when gaming.

 

[dgothi]

I just got done building my Ryzen 5 1600X with an Asus Strix B350-F, 16GB GSkill TridentZ 3000mHz, R9 390X (GPU), and couldn't be happier. Upgraded from an FX-8350. Amazing chips. Fast and stable. No RAM issues like everyone complained about in the early months. I don't see a need for a faster chip and setup for gaming at least.

Yeah, I believe your motherboard already have bios up to date version with AGESA 1000a. That is why.

-DG

 

[waveriderj]

I just got done building my Ryzen 5 1600X with an Asus Strix B350-F, 16GB GSkill TridentZ 3000mHz, R9 390X (GPU), and couldn't be happier. Upgraded from an FX-8350. Amazing chips. Fast and stable. No RAM issues like everyone complained about in the early months. I don't see a need for a faster chip and setup for gaming at least.

Yeah, I believe your motherboard already have bios up to date version with AGESA 1000a. That is why.

-DG

No. It was a couple BIOS old. I had to update it myself to the newest - the first thing I did. Easy as heck... Download the file, rename it, plug the drive in, go to BIOS and hit "update BIOS". Done.

 

[dgothi]

I just got done building my Ryzen 5 1600X with an Asus Strix B350-F, 16GB GSkill TridentZ 3000mHz, R9 390X (GPU), and couldn't be happier. Upgraded from an FX-8350. Amazing chips. Fast and stable. No RAM issues like everyone complained about in the early months. I don't see a need for a faster chip and setup for gaming at least.

Yeah, I believe your motherboard already have bios up to date version with AGESA 1000a. That is why.

-DG

No. It was a couple BIOS old. I had to update it myself to the newest - the first thing I did. Easy as heck... Download the file, rename it, plug the drive in, go to BIOS and hit "update BIOS". Done.

Good job! what version of bios did you update it? I have ASUS Prime Pro X370 with new version of bios. it running good!

 

[waveriderj]

I just got done building my Ryzen 5 1600X with an Asus Strix B350-F, 16GB GSkill TridentZ 3000mHz, R9 390X (GPU), and couldn't be happier. Upgraded from an FX-8350. Amazing chips. Fast and stable. No RAM issues like everyone complained about in the early months. I don't see a need for a faster chip and setup for gaming at least.

Yeah, I believe your motherboard already have bios up to date version with AGESA 1000a. That is why.

-DG

No. It was a couple BIOS old. I had to update it myself to the newest - the first thing I did. Easy as heck... Download the file, rename it, plug the drive in, go to BIOS and hit "update BIOS". Done.

Good job! what version of bios did you update it? I have ASUS Prime Pro X370 with new version of bios. it running good!

Version 3803 - 2018/01/26 release, for my board

 

[Jsimenhoff]

We'd love to hear your thoughts:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3689211/upgrade-ryzen-zen.html

 

[CountMike]

Asus Prime x370 Pro BIOS 4008
R7 2700x
2 x Kingston HyperX KHX3600C17D4/8GX
Samsung 960 Evo 250GB
Rx 460 2BG

Ryzen Master is not working any more "Unknown processor" is the message since I switched from 1700X. Any news about compatible version ?

 

[goldstone77]

Asus Prime x370 Pro BIOS 4008
R7 2700x
2 x Kingston HyperX KHX3600C17D4/8GX
Samsung 960 Evo 250GB
Rx 460 2BG

Ryzen Master is not working any more "Unknown processor" is the message since I switched from 1700X. Any news about compatible version ?

Quick google scan, and I don't see anything. No complaints yet either. I'll keep an eye out.

 

[-Fran-]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12640/amd-ryzen-delidding

Looks like delidding the APUs does bring tangible benefits, even when not OC'ing. It's a shame AMD decided to use tooth paste for the APUs, but it also seems like de8auer has the procedure down to a T and the kit is really simple to use. The same can be said for Intel though, so that makes me believe a delidded Covfefe Lake might also be interesting to test.

In any case, there you can see the temperature vs power data and why it's important for today's "turbo" systems built into the CPUs that we keep the temperatures low. Might be the new way to OC?

Cheers!

 

[goldstone77]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12640/amd-ryzen-delidding

Looks like delidding the APUs does bring tangible benefits, even when not OC'ing. It's a shame AMD decided to use tooth paste for the APUs, but it also seems like de8auer has the procedure down to a T and the kit is really simple to use. The same can be said for Intel though, so that makes me believe a delidded Covfefe Lake might also be interesting to test.

In any case, there you can see the temperature vs power data and why it's important for today's "turbo" systems built into the CPUs that we keep the temperatures low. Might be the new way to OC?

Cheers!

I wish they would have run some gaming benchmarks! There was a problem with thermal throttling while gaming.

 

[imrazor]

Threadripper 2 appears at Computex...32 cores, 64 threads. Very few details beyond that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGRASKMCMXk

 

[-Fran-]

I think the most important detail to note is that AMD confirmed it is coming in 7nm flavor. That is kind of important. I think Intel will try to squeeze as much speed as they can out of 14nm until they can make 10nm work and proof of that is that demo they did.

In related news, they also showed 7nm Vega working in the demo (well, let's assume it was a Vega 7nm).

Cheers!

 

[goldstone77]

Well, Lisa Su said 7nm Vega was sampling now with partners, and launching 2H 2018.

 

[Eximo]

See now I want to see the threadripper 2 versus the old supercomputer list, just to see how far we've come in computing power. Not sure what benchmark to use to compare them though. (I was going to double a 1950X score just as a ballpark)

 

[aldaia]

MindFactory.de May sales. AMD almost catches Intel.
Compare with May 2017 (Ryzen 1 was just 2 months old), seems that AMD has got some of it's reputation back.

 

[goldstone77]

Great deal right now for the 2700!

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113498&ignorebbr=1
Promo Code:
NENAR8

 

[TechyInAZ]

RIP Owners that Pre-Ordered Ryzen 1800X's that had a perfectly fine systems before they upgraded. LOL.

 

[-Fran-]

I have to half-agree there, Techy... First gen adopters had it rough with Zen. This mid-gen refresh is great, much like the Phenom I to Phenom II was and Athlon gen 1 to gen 2 was (Thunderbird core! Good memories). AMD has a... Uhm... Lousy track record with "gen 1" stuff. Not that they're bad; hardly the case, but gen 2 usually polishes the quirks to the point of making them very different products.

Anyway, I still believe 1800X owners should be happy, since the 2700X did not change things *that* much if they do OC. The extra hertz are not that much of a difference in performance and the memory improvements have been rolled out to the gen 1 stuff anyway.

Cheers!

PS: I'm calling "gen1" things that I also call "v1" at times, but you all know what I mean.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Agreed. Yeah the only difference really between then 1800X and the 2700X is memory latency. Even that can be "fixed" if you use stiltz timings. I saw someone using stiltz timings on a 1700 overclocked and it basically matched a 2700X.

Oh and the latest BIOS updates for X370 have been amazing, for example, there's no need anymore for P-State overclocking. The CPU will now auto downclock by overclocking just the multiplier.

 

[drea.drechsler]

Agreed. Yeah the only difference really between then 1800X and the 2700X is memory latency. Even that can be "fixed" if you use stiltz timings. I saw someone using stiltz timings on a 1700 overclocked and it basically matched a 2700X....

I hope it's not improper to ask, but can someone provide a pointer to stiltz' timings? I'd do a Google search but there is no assurance I'd come up with the correct location of the correct/latest version that's relevant.

Thanks all....

 

[goldstone77]

"The Stilt" is a fairly famous person when it comes to AMD.

AMD FX-8370 nearly breaks world’s clock-rate record at 8.7GHz
Anton Shilov August 29, 2014

The Stilt, a famous Finnish overclocker, has managed to boost clock-rate of the yet-unreleased AMD FX-8370 microprocessor to whopping 8722MHz, which is just 72MHz lower than the world’s record CPU frequency.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/unannounced-amd-fx-8370-nearly-breaks-worlds-clock-rate-record-at-8-7ghz/

These are The Stilt timings.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/74vkwm/the_minute_you_realize_stilts_memory_tweaks_have/

He has a long running post on anandtech forums.

Ryzen: Strictly technical
Discussion in 'CPUs and Overclocking' started by The Stilt, Mar 2, 2017.
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/

The Stilt wrote this Ryzen timings checker software
Ryzen Timing Checker
Publisher: The Stilt
Downloaded: 10,625 times (1.3 GB)
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ryzen-timing-checker/

 

[drea.drechsler]

"The Stilt" is a fairly famous person when it comes to AMD.

AMD FX-8370 nearly breaks world’s clock-rate record at 8.7GHz
Anton Shilov August 29, 2014

...
These are The Stilt timings.

I think I see: then the Stilt's Timings are timing options built into a high-end overclocking motherboard made by ASUS? Maybe the Crosshair VI Hero?

 

[goldstone77]

^correct!

 

[-Fran-]

The Crosshair VII also has the same page.

It also tells you the specific timings for each configuration.

Cheers!

 

[goldstone77]

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