AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X Review

[mitch074]

A professional would simply find a more palatable solution. For instance one could simply use a program like Bitsum's process lasso to force a troublesome application to run on specific cores.

I'm not sure this would be enough - Windows 10 is "smart" enough to avoid core jumping, however software that isn't NUMA-aware will simply not work properly on a NUMA system; you'd need some kind of emulation layer to "force" such a software to make use of a given (uniform) RAM slice directly managed by the cores it runs on. Said layer would probably be found in the OS' kernel, however it would be needlessly complex when NUMA support could simply be improved at compile time.

Current games are working on better threading support and seem to appreciate NUMA systems (see here for a sample). As such, I think one could rename the "Gaming mode" into "Legacy high-performance gaming mode".

But that's a mouthful.

The "Gaming mode" seems to go much further into optimizing than simply disabling NUMA; I'd wager that they somehow manage to prevent "jumps" from one RAM controller to another when disabling the cores and controllers.

 

[Solarion]

A professional would simply find a more palatable solution. For instance one could simply use a program like Bitsum's process lasso to force a troublesome application to run on specific cores.

I'm not sure this would be enough - Windows 10 is "smart" enough to avoid core jumping, however software that isn't NUMA-aware will simply not work properly on a NUMA system; you'd need some kind of emulation layer to "force" such a software to make use of a given (uniform) RAM slice directly managed by the cores it runs on. Said layer would probably be found in the OS' kernel, however it would be needlessly complex when NUMA support could simply be improved at compile time.

Current games are working on better threading support and seem to appreciate NUMA systems (see here for a sample). As such, I think one could rename the "Gaming mode" into "Legacy high-performance gaming mode".

But that's a mouthful.

The "Gaming mode" seems to go much further into optimizing than simply disabling NUMA; I'd wager that they somehow manage to prevent "jumps" from one RAM controller to another when disabling the cores and controllers.

According to Anandtech's review gaming mode does significantly worse than simply disabling SMT. That said, the point was to cause poorly coded games that simply won't run at all when they see 16c/32t coming at them...that's easily accomplished using process lasso...no reboot required.

 

[semillerimages]

Who makes the "Chiller" water cooler? I didn't find a good result with google

 

[hixbot]

The CPU may be a bargain but the X399 motherboards are prohibitively expensive. Intel HEDT systems are actually more affordable when you include motheboard prices.

 

[Solarion]

The CPU may be a bargain but the X399 motherboards are prohibitively expensive. Intel HEDT systems are actually more affordable when you include motheboard prices.

I got my own full featured x399 motherboard for $280 after discounts and rebates...I'd hardly call that "prohibitively expensive" given the feature set. While there are a couple x299 motherboards available for just North of $200 they're stripped to the bone...4 dimm slots rather than 8, single x16 slots, etc. Comparably equipped x299 boards are priced similarly to x399 motherboards while still offering fewer PCIe lanes and involving numerous dark ports and compromises you don't see on the AMD HEDT platform.

 

[PC noob and noobier]

can it play minecraft at 4K? Seems alot of pixels to generate. In fact, pixels on top of pixels!