News AMD Shares First Official Ryzen 7 7800X3D Gaming Benchmarks vs Core i9-13900K, Up To 24% Faster

[Unolocogringo]

I build a 5700G with 4133mhz ram. One year after the system can't do even 3600 mhz. Unstable frozen in windows changed the memory old sticks 2666mhz works perfectly.

How fast these new amd cpu will have problem 😡

You again???
I have 3 AMD systems and one intel that run 24/7/365
My 3600 is almost at the 4 year mark 1.29v @4.4ghz all core boost. 3600 cas 18
My 5600x is just past the 1 year mark. auto voltage 1.22-1.36v per core 4.5-4.65ghz boost all core, 3600 cas 16
The old I5 6600 and even older Phenom2 x6 @3.4ghz all core boost still run great.
4133 mhz ram and the needed voltage is probably your system downfall.
Running overclocks on processors and/or memory have their risks and rewards.
You gambled and lost.

 

[PlaneInTheSky]

I checked if there is bias in AMD's latest slide where they hand-pick games (above).

I checked how the 5800X3D historically performed in these AMD-handpicked titles in reviews.

There is a clear bias in this slide, all of the games AMD picked, are games where AMD performed much better than Intel with X3D.

There is an abnormal level of AMD bias in the games AMD puts in their slides.

 

[SunMaster]

That is likely why AMD always picks older games for their slides.

Unfortunately what you quoted from techpowerup doesn't mean anything at all (IMNSHO). In the charts there are 3 titles being "newer" and one title being "older" which really stands out and makes a difference. To come to the conclusion about newer/older games isn't really possible from a statistical point of view. It's all anecdotical.

 

[thisisaname]

Roll on some third party Benchmarks to clear things up.

 

[PlaneInTheSky]

Roll on some third party Benchmarks to clear things up.

Right.

A review should exclude statistical anomalies like F1 for AMD and Age of Empires for Intel.

AMD or Intel sponsored titles should also be excluded.

The games that are left should be chosen at random where every game has the same probability of being chosen.

 

[ottonis]

AMD would have enchanted its gaming user base if they had released the 7800 X3D first or at least simultaneously alongside the 7950 X3D, as it seems to be a massively better value proposition.

That being said, I wonder if there's any other productivity tools beyond gaming that might benefit from the large 3D cash. What about latency sensitive real-time audio applications?
Imagine a DAW with hundreds of tracks, each one loaded with virtual instruments and VST effects.
AMD would massively benefit from exploring such possibilities as I know a huge number of audio aficionados, digital music enthusiasts and composers, bands, songwriters who would buy into such a system if it would enable them to use significantly more tracks, instruments or effects.

 

[Ogotai]

So not taking AMD or any other company at face value is spouting nonsense

i know a few people here that trust AMD more then they trust intel at the moment, for the simple reason, amd has been more accurate then intel, in some cases amd has even been conservative with the info it releases, and upon reviews has done better

Previous gen equivalent CPUs against each other. 1% overall lead for the 5800X3D. Any more questions?

um this is about the 7800x3d and 13900k NOT 5800x3d and 12300k, nice try

I'm just not dumb enough to believe every word any company says.

unless it is intel, which you have shown in the past

They can claim all they want. Showing a handful of games does not provide a full overview

thats funny, cause intel does the SAME thing, and it seems most take intel for what they say at face value.

with a much less expensive platform,

not where i am, the board and ddr5 are about the same price, its still only the cpu where there is a price difference

This trend where hardware makers handpick games, and tech sites blindly copy these slides, is ridiculous.

intel does the SAME thing.

 

[-Fran-]

Brace yourselves, as a "close thread" may be upon us!

Regards XD

 

[KyaraM]

i know a few people here that trust AMD more then they trust intel at the moment, for the simple reason, amd has been more accurate then intel, in some cases amd has even been conservative with the info it releases, and upon reviews has done better

um this is about the 7800x3d and 13900k NOT 5800x3d and 12300k, nice try

unless it is intel, which you have shown in the past

thats funny, cause intel does the SAME thing, and it seems most take intel for what they say at face value.

not where i am, the board and ddr5 are about the same price, its still only the cpu where there is a price difference

intel does the SAME thing.

Where do I take Intel at face value? Also, I call them out for bs just like I do AMD. The 13900KS, for example, which didn't really go well with me for its horrendous power consumption and veey little gain.

And I compared those two because the situation is the same with the same claims made here. My original statement was literally "until it only shows a 1% lead overall, like last time". "Nice try" right back at you.

Also, no, I don't take Intel at face value. Yes, they do the same thing, you finally figured it out unless all of us others so said the same thing over and over for ages. I have said that they are all the same how many times already? Again, nice try.

Plus, I just absolutely loathe the outright cult-like reference some here have for AMD, which makes me counter due to the outright stupidity of it. I will say it as I said before, none of those PC hardware companiesare your friends. Not Nvidia, not AMD, and not Intel. Acting as if you are somehow more moral for buying AMD, as some here also do, is just plain ridiculous.

 

[Ogotai]

I just absolutely loathe the outright cult-like reference some here have for AMD

and there the the same cult like reference for intel, point is ???

Acting as if you are somehow more moral for buying AMD, as some here also do

again, same for intel.

 

[KyaraM]

and there the the same cult like reference for intel, point is ???


again, same for intel.

Show me a single post where someone acts like they have the moral high ground for buying Intel.

And, again, I said ever since I joined here that those companies are all the same. Try harder.

Or on second thought, don't. This is ridiculous.

 

[Johnpombrio]

Never have trusted a company's exclusive benchmarks before the release, never have, never will.

 

[KyaraM]

Never have trusted a company's exclusive benchmarks before the release, never have, never will.

And neither should you, or anyone for that matter.

 

[Ogotai]

Show me a single post where someone acts like they have the moral high ground for buying Intel

no need to you should be able to find them your self

 

[KyaraM]

no need to you should be able to find them your self

You are making claims here, go back them up yourself when asked and don't shove the responsibility to the one you argue with, lmao. That is not like arguments work.

Or don't, whatever. It's obvious that all you want to do is antagonizing me without providing any evidence or any further sense, so this is my last post to you. None of this really belongs here anyways, and I'm not obligated to get attacked over and over for things I never said or did. Bye.

 

[derekullo]

Lol, did they actually not even know what game they are testing or is there really a horizon zero down?!
Also having the 'up to' disclaimer on every pic probably means that they took the max FPS and not the avg.

Horizon Zero Down is a simulation game that models the 2008 housing crisis.

 

[PlaneInTheSky]

intel does the SAME thing.

I'm sure they do. For me it is not about either company.

Promotional slides with hand-picked games need to stop and companies need to be called out for them, since they are manipulative.

And the "up to X% faster" bs from AMD has to stop too.

And reviews need to pick a wider variety of games to do the testing. Including games that don't have built-in benches, it's not hard to run an input script and test a game without a built-in bench.

While there is some argument to be made that including wildly popular games in a bench has some community benefit, there is no reason why every AMD review has to have ridiculous anomalies like F1 in them that completely skew results.

 

[SinisterMessiah]

More 1080p gaming benchmarks yikes. Nobody is buying these processors to game at 1080p. What are we doing here?? Show us how these things scale in performance for 1440p, ultrawide, 4k, ray-tracing, etc.

 

[kerberos_20]

Lol, did they actually not even know what game they are testing or is there really a horizon zero down?!

sure there is horizon zero down, its quite good looking game, post apocalyptic where humans lost tech and returned to being bow hunters vs robots xD

 

[kerberos_20]

More 1080p gaming benchmarks yikes. Nobody is buying these processors to game at 1080p. What are we doing here?? Show us how these things scale in performance for 1440p, ultrawide, 4k, ray-tracing, etc.

what has higher gpu resolution, more gpu details to do with cpu benchmark?
better cpu wont scale in any of your mentioned things, those are purely GPU related stuffs
but ultrawide could increase cpu load a bit..thats a valid point

 

[waltc3]

I don't think the 7950X3D is competing with the 7800X3D, because there's no contest when multicore productivity applications that can make good use of 16 core/32t are concerned, as the 7950X3D is easily faster for those purposes. 7950X3D is designed for work and play, whereas the 7800X3D is specifically designed and tuned for games, with its 8c/16t V-cache architecture. I think it will easily outsell the 7950X3D, and that AMD has delayed shipping until April in order to build up a good stock of them (because of how well the 5800X3D sold/sells)--although I think AMD is surprised at how fast the first batch of 12 & 16 core X3D CPUs have sold already. We stand at the opening gate of the AM5 platform, and the shape of things to come will be interesting!

 

[thisisaname]

More 1080p gaming benchmarks yikes. Nobody is buying these processors to game at 1080p. What are we doing here?? Show us how these things scale in performance for 1440p, ultrawide, 4k, ray-tracing, etc.

From my understanding they do the benchmarks at 1080p to remove the GPU as the limiting factor.

 

[OneMoreUser]

Lol, did they actually not even know what game they are testing or is there really a horizon zero down?!
Also having the 'up to' disclaimer on every pic probably means that they took the max FPS and

LOL, Really ?
Surely you're smart enough that a typo doesn't stop you from understanding the message, just as you should be able to understand why benchmarks are a complex thing which makes disclaimers necessary.

 

[doughillman]

More 1080p gaming benchmarks yikes. Nobody is buying these processors to game at 1080p. What are we doing here?? Show us how these things scale in performance for 1440p, ultrawide, 4k, ray-tracing, etc.

Tell me you don't understand how CPU benchmarking works without saying that you don't understand how CPU benchmarking works.

Hardware Unboxed has a pretty good recent video about this for those of you who still don't get it. Go give it a watch.

 

[tamalero]

I build a 5700G with 4133mhz ram. One year after the system can't do even 3600 mhz. Unstable frozen in windows changed the memory old sticks 2666mhz works perfectly.

How fast these new amd cpu will have problem 😡

sounds like cooling issues.

 

[KyaraM]

More 1080p gaming benchmarks yikes. Nobody is buying these processors to game at 1080p. What are we doing here?? Show us how these things scale in performance for 1440p, ultrawide, 4k, ray-tracing, etc.

Actually, the best resolution to test CPUs at is 720p, even, since thwn the GPU doesn't limit at all and you can best see actual CPU raw performance. True, nobody buys them for that. However, in higher resolutions, the GPU limits the CPU to the point they all become the same. That is quite the moot comparison. It is important to keep in mind that on those resolutions, especially with GPUs that aren't the latest and greatest, it almost doesn't even matter what CPU you have. A 12400 will be the same as a 7950X3D, for example, or indistinguishably close, when paired with, say, a 3070Ti playing at high resolution. That's why I don't really buy the future-proofing argument, either. But people will be people, and no matter how much you say, some will simply refuse to listen. Still, low-res CPU tests make sense is the point here.