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AMD is doing direct sales to keep resellers from price gouging. For instance Radeon VII has been spotted on Amazon selling for over $1200 despite being EOL. Whenever inventory is pressured under high demand, the response is to raise prices and gouge the consumer.

Demand is very high for Ryzen 9 3900X. It is OUT OF STOCK on NEWEGG and Amazon doesn't list it AT ALL and it is being offered for $629 at Wallmart!!!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/AMD-Ryze...=136045465&wl11=online&wl12=360697304&veh=sem

Price gouging resellers are being kept honest. AMD is also selling NAVI direct.

AMD does not want another crypto gouging scenario to aggravate consumers.
 
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Vikas was a rep at AMD that helped me "get the feel" for how they do business, His short notes reassured me as I never bought from AMD directly.
It seemed AMD was far different that newegg or amazon. So whether AMD Direct is less transparent than the others, it is in getting the Tracking Number out quickly

Friday the 7th to the next Friday....Came from the Twin Cities.
I ran my own Geek Bench and found I had a Ryzen 9 3900X indeed.

I posted here but in a manner or thread where it was a lost cause. You know a fanboi shoot out vs. a post your Geek Mark and OC level etc.
So my work was lost BUT:
here ya go on the Geek Banch HTML link.
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13865361
 
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Sunday morning I had a 3900x in my cart at AMD.com. I went back and put a 5700XT Gold in my cart and when I went to pay it told me that they were sold out of the 3900x and it would be removed from my cart. It then let me replace it with a 3700x. I ended up removing the 3700x from my cart thinking I would pick up a 3900x at Newegg or somewhere. Of course they were sold out there too. When I returned to AMD.com it wouldn't even let me put it in my cart. I'm assuming that they had very limited stock that morning on their website.
 
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Walter Smith said:
Sunday morning I had a 3900x in my cart at AMD.com. I went back and put a 5700XT Gold in my cart and when I went to pay it told me that they were sold out of the 3900x and it would be removed from my cart. It then let me replace it with a 3700x. I ended up removing the 3700x from my cart thinking I would pick up a 3900x at Newegg or somewhere. Of course they were sold out there too. When I returned to AMD.com it wouldn't even let me put it in my cart. I'm assuming that they had very limited stock that morning on their website.
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That was not my experience. I did get the Ryzen 9 3900X in the cart 7July2091. A day later I noticed SOLD OUT
was posted on everything online I tried before I ordered from AMD. My cart never changed and I ran the CC for the $499 + tax,
checking the CC, they had not hit it, and since no one had the CPU I just hung in there. I found I could get a rep, Vikas by name as I mentioned - a good rep, and I was informed the warehouse was backedup like a tough 24oz, T-Bone with no beer chaser.
So I hung in there and got the deliver EMAIL Thursday night and the CPU Friday.
The "D" was from the Twin Cities to W. Wi.
 
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rav_ said:
AMD is doing direct sales to keep resellers from price gouging. For instance Radeon VII has been spotted on Amazon selling for over $1200 despite being EOL. Whenever inventory is pressured under high demand, the response is to raise prices and gouge the consumer.

Demand is very high for Ryzen 9 3900X. It is OUT OF STOCK on NEWEGG and Amazon doesn't list it AT ALL and it is being offered for $629 at Wallmart!!!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/AMD-Ryze...=136045465&wl11=online&wl12=360697304&veh=sem

Price gouging resellers are being kept honest. AMD is also selling NAVI direct.

AMD does not want another crypto gouging scenario to aggravate consumers.
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They process like a dream:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13865361
Good Luck! Have you tried the EU or Russia ?
 
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In case anyone thinks I am goofy here are two SANDRA tests I RAN personally:
SiSoftware Sandra PROCESSOR TEST
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor (12C 24T 4.45GHz, 1.67GHz +
1.67GHz (100%) 3333Mhz RAM
Aggregate Native Performance : 409.47GOPS
Dhrystone Integer Native AVX2 : 546.9GIPS
Dhrystone Long Native AVX2 : 551.74GIPS
Whetstone Single-float Native AVX/FMA : 334.64GFLOPS
Whetstone Double-float Native AVX/FMA : 280.86GFLOPS

Aggregate Native Performance
Dhrystone Aggregated-int Native : 549.32GFLOPS
Whetstone Aggregated-float Native : 306.57GFLOPS
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Decimal Numeral System (base 10) : 1GOPS = 1000MOPS, 1MOPS = 1000kOPS, 1kOPS = 1000OPS, etc.

Performance per Thread
Aggregate Native Performance : 17GOPS
Dhrystone Integer Native : 22.79GIPS
Dhrystone Long Native : 23GIPS
Whetstone Single-float Native : 14GFLOPS
Whetstone Double-float Native : 11.7GFLOPS
No. Threads : 24
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Decimal Numeral System (base 10) : 1GOPS = 1000MOPS, 1MOPS = 1000kOPS, 1kOPS = 1000OPS, etc.

Performance vs. Speed
Aggregate Native Performance : 92.02MOPS/MHz
Dhrystone Integer Native : 122.90MIPS/MHz
Dhrystone Long Native : 123.99MIPS/MHz
Whetstone Single-float Native : 75.20MFLOPS/MHz
Whetstone Double-float Native : 63.11MFLOPS/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.

Benchmark Status
Result ID : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor (12C 24T 4.45GHz, 1.67GHz IMC, 12x 512kB L2, 4x 16MB L3)
Microcode : MU8F710012
Computer : MSI MS-7B79 (MSI X470 GAMING PLUS (MS-7B79))
Platform Compliance : x64
NUMA Support : No
No. Threads : 24
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SiSoftware Sandra--32GB G.Skill F4-3600C19-16GVRB DIMM DDR4 (3.33GHz) PC4-28800 (16-16-16-38 4-54-17-6)

Aggregate Memory Performance : 39.77GB/s [ not QUAD channel, best DUAL channel bandwidth I have seen with my rigs - equivalent with a Quad Channel i7-3960X I still have ]
Integer Memory Bandwidth B/F AVX2/256 : 39.69GB/s
Float Memory Bandwidth B/F FMA/256 : 39.85GB/s
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Binary Numeral System (base 2) : 1GB(/s) = 1024MB(/s), 1MB(/s) = 1024kB(/s), 1kB(/s) = 1024 bytes(/s), etc.

Benchmark Timings
Time to Copy Capacity : 804.68ms
Results Interpretation : Lower Scores mean Better Performance.

Performance per Thread
Aggregate Memory Performance : 3.31GB/s
Integer Memory Bandwidth B/F AVX2/256 : 39.69GB/s
Float Memory Bandwidth B/F FMA/256 : 39.85GB/s
No. Threads : 12
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Binary Numeral System (base 2) : 1GB(/s) = 1024MB(/s), 1MB(/s) = 1024kB(/s), 1kB(/s) = 1024 bytes(/s), etc.

Performance vs. Power
Chipset(s)/Memory Power : 54.150W
Aggregate Memory Performance : 752.02MB/s/W
Integer Memory Bandwidth B/F AVX2/256 : 750.47MB/s/W
Float Memory Bandwidth B/F FMA/256 : 753.57MB/s/W
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.

Capacity vs. Power
Memory Capacity : 605MB/W
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.

Performance vs. Speed
Aggregate Memory Performance : 12.22MB/s/MHz
Integer Memory Bandwidth B/F AVX2/256 : 12.20MB/s/MHz
Float Memory Bandwidth B/F FMA/256 : 12.25MB/s/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.

Integer Memory Bandwidth
Assignment : 40.29GB/s
Scaling : 40.18GB/s
Addition : 39.14GB/s
Triad : 39.13GB/s
Data Item Size : 32bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement : Yes

Float Memory Bandwidth
Assignment : 40.28GB/s
Scaling : 40.33GB/s
Addition : 39.51GB/s
Triad : 39.28GB/s
Data Item Size : 32bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement : Yes

Benchmark Status
32GB G.Skill F4-3600C19-16GVRB DIMM DDR4 (3.33GHz) PC4-28800 (16-16-16-38 4-54-17-6)
Revision : A.A0
Computer : MSI MS-7B79 (MSI X470 GAMING PLUS (MS-7B79))
Platform Compliance : x64
Total Memory : 32GB
Memory Used by Test : 10.67GB
No. Threads : 12
Processor Affinity : U0-C0T0 U2-C1T0 U4-C2T0 U6-C3T0 U8-C4T0 U10-C5T0 U12-C6T0 U14-C7T0 U16-C8T0 U18-C9T0 U20-C10T0 U22-C11T0
System Timer : 14.32MHz

Features
SSE - Streaming SIMD Extensions : Yes
SSE2 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v2 : Yes
SSE3 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v3 : Yes
SSSE3 - Supplemental SSE3 : Yes
SSE4.1 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v4.1 : Yes
SSE4.2 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v4.2 : Yes
AVX - Advanced Vector eXtensions : Yes
FMA3 - Fused Multiply/Add eXtensions : Yes
AVX2 - Advanced Vector eXtensions v2 : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes

Computer
Name : MSI MS-7B79 (MSI X470 GAMING PLUS (MS-7B79))
Computer BIOS : A.A0

Chipset
Model : Algol 0000
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 100MHz
Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 400MB/s

Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank #1 : 16GB DIMM DDR4
Bank #3 : 16GB DIMM DDR4
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 1.67GHz (3.33GHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : G.Skill/Hynix (Hyundai) F4-3600C19-16GVRB 16GB DDR4 PC4-28800U DDR4-3604 (15-15-15-36 4-51-16-5)
Memory Module : G.Skill/Hynix (Hyundai) F4-3600C19-16GVRB 16GB DDR4 PC4-28800U DDR4-3604 (15-15-15-36 4-51-16-5)

Performance Enhancing Tips
Warning 5010 : Cannot use Large Memory Pages due to lack of privileges.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
 
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bit_user said:
He's complaining about the writing of this site's most excellent reporter whom, it seems, has yet to learn about a thing called fact-checking.
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I say ADMIN is diplomatic and probably does not want to effuse a bunch of speculations etc.
Give credit where due as there is a lot of snooping to be done, then hence forward to report.
I think that is real journalistic method and no one likes to make FAKE NEWS...LOL!
 
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I doubt "cutting out the middle man" is a valid conclusion to jump to. If resellers dont commit to suitably stocking inventory, it is perfectly valid for AMD to provide an alternative source, w/o the supply chain having any cause for a grievance. It has been common for AMD to produce a reference model to get the ball rolling on new products like vega gpuS.

AFAICT, AMD has done a remarkable job of meeting exploding demand for for earlier Zen versions, and supplying them conventional channels.

It is a damn sight better for keen customers than constant out of stocks at timid retailers.
 
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Walter Smith said:
Sunday morning I had a 3900x in my cart at AMD.com. I went back and put a 5700XT Gold in my cart and when I went to pay it told me that they were sold out of the 3900x and it would be removed from my cart. It then let me replace it with a 3700x. I ended up removing the 3700x from my cart thinking I would pick up a 3900x at Newegg or somewhere. Of course they were sold out there too. When I returned to AMD.com it wouldn't even let me put it in my cart. I'm assuming that they had very limited stock that morning on their website.
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AMD sent me a notification directly today, 14 July 2019, after being notified [ as far as I could figure ] I went to AMD Difrect Sales. I followed up further, and I attempted to CART a Ryzen 9 3900X [ to check availablity, out of curiosity, as I had one] SO as it all finals out in this tale, I could not CART one more CPU, I received the Unavailable Notification. It might be that you just need good timing, it might be they sell XXXX thousands per batch as they get them, and sell those out quickly.

They are worth chasing. SIx months from now they could be discounted after the 3950X appears. I would say try putting them in the cart when you want until you ARE the individual with Good Timing.
 
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