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Can someone explain to me why the FX62 still costs around $700 when it gets beaten on all performance metrics by the C2D 6600 that costs half as much?

Also why are there so many people posting here about setting up new systems with all new components and still buying AMD's? Are they just stupid or something?
 
Can someone explain to me why the FX62 still costs around $700 when it gets beaten on all performance metrics by the C2D 6600 that costs half as much?

Also why are there so many people posting here about setting up new systems with all new components and still buying AMD's? Are they just stupid or something?
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well correct as you said they are stupid or <insert-something>
 
Can someone explain to me why the FX62 still costs around $700 when it gets beaten on all performance metrics by the C2D 6600 that costs half as much?
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Could be for the sake of appearance and reducing the price could also mean reducing the price on their other CPUs. It is still a premium chip though who's clock multiplier is unlocked and probably has low yields.

Also why are there so many people posting here about setting up new systems with all new components and still buying AMD's? Are they just stupid or something?
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AMD fanatics, or they want to upgrade to AMD's next generation CPU assuming that it can beat the C2D.
 
Somehow I would prefer to think that they are simply misguided and follow/favor the advice from the likes of fellow horde members... or simply ignorant of the technology...
 
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Can someone explain to me why the FX62 still costs around $700 when it gets beaten on all performance metrics by the C2D 6600 that costs half as much?

Also why are there so many people posting here about setting up new systems with all new components and still buying AMD's? Are they just stupid or something?
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I assume you were posting this before Core 2 in regards to Intel. Actually you could ask the same question about 965EE. It still cost $999 at Newegg.
 
Well, this thread is going to annoy the horde, naturally.

I don't think AMD sucks... more like caught with their pants down. Sure, AM2 looks like a budget solution for the moment, and if people still want to buy AMD products, why can't they? Its their money, they can do what they like. Sure, C2D is mighty tasty, but if it were a bit cheaper and if I hadn't upgraded my PC about 6 months ago, then I would go Intel.

However, if you were someone like BM... :lol:
 
Well, this thread is going to annoy the horde, naturally.

I don't think AMD sucks... more like caught with their pants down. Sure, AM2 looks like a budget solution for the moment, and if people still want to buy AMD products, why can't they? Its their money, they can do what they like. Sure, C2D is mighty tasty, but if it were a bit cheaper and if I hadn't upgraded my PC about 6 months ago, then I would go Intel.

However, if you were someone like BM... :lol:
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You would have to try very hard to not hunt Intel ho s down and ....
 
i can see a huge flam war starting, biggest in the history of THG forumz... and then this thread will be locked many people will lose etc etc... and at the end this thread is going to get locked!
 
Can someone explain to me why the FX62 still costs around $700 when it gets beaten on all performance metrics by the C2D 6600 that costs half as much?

Also why are there so many people posting here about setting up new systems with all new components and still buying AMD's? Are they just stupid or something?
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I assume you were posting this before Core 2 in regards to Intel. Actually you could ask the same question about 965EE. It still cost $999 at Newegg.
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Can someone explain to me why the FX62 still costs around $700 when it gets beaten on all performance metrics by the C2D 6600 that costs half as much?

Also why are there so many people posting here about setting up new systems with all new components and still buying AMD's? Are they just stupid or something?
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I assume you were posting this before Core 2 in regards to Intel. Actually you could ask the same question about 965EE. It still cost $999 at Newegg.
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Just whine and get it locked. That's your specialty. Interesting though how it's only AMD posts.
 
top of the line CPUs are never worth the cash; you have 'sweet points', or models which cost little compared with their native or overclocked performance.
An AMD X2 3800+, which is a respectable overclocker, and which draws less than 65W at full load (see latest Tom's benchies) costs less than $150.

Ideal for a living room computer (silent, runs barely hot under high load, dual core), or a budget gaming rig (dual core, fast enough for most games, keeps overclockers happy - mine reached 4400+ scores under Sandra, while barely pushing it).

The C2D 6600 is another one: a bit more expensive, more powerful, very good overclocker but running hotter would be not as good for aliving room PC but better for a budget gaming rig.

The 805D is an overclocker's dream: VERY cheap dual core with crappy default performance, it reaches unprecedented performances when pushed. It is however a power hog, making it unsuitable for anything else than an enthusiast's rig.
 
Well, replying to the original question.

1. It costs as much as AMD needs to charge for it to recoup their investment. AMD unfortunately got blindsided by Intel this time round (It has gone the other way on several occasions too)

2. Why do some people buy Macs? Why do some people prefer Linux over Windows? The reasons are many and varied. In the end it is good for all of us as it fosters competition as each vendor vies to lure market share.
 
If you already have an AMD set-up and want to upgrade the system, you can either buy a faster AMD proc, or a C2D, mobo, maybe new RAM too if you're not already on DDR2, etc, etc...

Also, you might think that Intel suck, and that you'd rather pay more for less. It's a free country!!!
 
To the person that started this thread, have you ever actually used an AMD processor or are you reying on benchmarks to prove all of your claims? Don't forget that certain benchmarks can be tweaked to give certain hardware an advantage. That's why a lot of benchmarks have to be taken with a grain of salt. Go and actually compare those 2 procesors in real world tests ie games or what have you and see if you can sense any real difference. I gaurentee there will be no discernable performance difference that you'll be able to detect.

Just my opinions,

overclockingrocks
 
Also why are there so many people posting here about setting up new systems with all new components and still buying AMD's? Are they just stupid or something?
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For the same reason that some people drive Nissans and some drive Fords some people like Harleys some like Kawasaki's, different strokes for different folks my friend get used to it, it's what makes the world go round. :lol:
 
As many people have said many times, its not just the cost of the CPU, its the cost of the motherboard, the memory, the video card, etc.

If you already have a K8 system with a Socket 939 motherboard (even if you bought it 2 years ago), you can upgrade to the fastest processor AMD makes without replacing any other piece of hardware, and WITHOUT having to re-install Windoze. Its a simple drop-in replacement.

Can you do the same with an Intel?

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Clearly Intel fanboy you have no idea what you're talking about. The FX-62 is a 90nm chipset while the Intel Core 2 Duo is a 65nm chipset. The Core 2 clearly has the advantage here because of its architecture. Also if you didn't notice Intel's 90nm technology was a joke. Their chips produced so much heat. As you can see now, AMD is showing signs of some brilliant work with their new EE 54W chipsets. If AMD can produce chips on a 90nm architecture with 54-125W, imagine what they can produce on a 65nm architecture, once they make their transition. Also some of these people are right, some of Intel's old chips are still $1000. So explain that.
 
Can someone explain to me why the FX62 still costs around $700 when it gets beaten on all performance metrics by the C2D 6600 that costs half as much?

Also why are there so many people posting here about setting up new systems with all new components and still buying AMD's? Are they just stupid or something?
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Actually, the pricing structure for both companies leaves a lot to be desired(though the merchants are likely to blame)....for instance...In Canada:


Pentium 4 660: $523.19 CAD
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14039&vpn=BX80547PG3600F&manufacture=Intel


Pentium 4 661: $199.14 CAD(After $30 Rebate)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17445&vpn=BX80552661&manufacture=Intel


Now, i realize that the 661 is a Cedar Mill(65nm) and therefore cheaper to manufacture vs the 660(Prescott@90nm), but who in there right mind would buy the 660 over the 661 and at 2.5 times the price to boot? :?
 
You know, once cpus get into that range (fx-62, c2d6800) they are all so powerful that whatever you are doing is going to happen fast. That in mind, theres nothing wrong with supporting a particular company because you like them. I shop at Wal-Mart instead of Target but that doesnt mean Im a slavering Wal-Mart fanboy. It means I like Wal-Mart.

If the difference between an fx-62 and a c2d6800e is 1000 3dmark06 points, then Id go buy the AMD chip, not because Im an AMD fanboy, but because AMD stuff makes me happy.

People are allowed to support products merely because they like the parent company, not based on perfomance. Im just sayin...
-cm

Oh, yeah: Mousemonkey is my hero.
 
Can someone explain to me why the FX62 still costs around $700 when it gets beaten on all performance metrics by the C2D 6600 that costs half as much?

Also why are there so many people posting here about setting up new systems with all new components and still buying AMD's? Are they just stupid or something?
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well sure i will do that if you would explain to me why the 965EE is selling for $999...
 
You know, once cpus get into that range (fx-62, c2d6800) they are all so powerful that whatever you are doing is going to happen fast. That in mind, theres nothing wrong with supporting a particular company because you like them. I shop at Wal-Mart instead of Target but that doesnt mean Im a slavering Wal-Mart fanboy. It means I like Wal-Mart.

If the difference between an fx-62 and a c2d6800e is 1000 3dmark06 points, then Id go buy the AMD chip, not because Im an AMD fanboy, but because AMD stuff makes me happy.

People are allowed to support products merely because they like the parent company, not based on perfomance. Im just sayin...
-cm

Oh, yeah: Mousemonkey is my hero.
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That's exactly the point I always try to make. This is a capitalist society so people can choose to buy the brands they want. The BMW got faster than the Audi and people didn't burn ther Audis.

Value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
 
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