AMD Triple-Core Phenom 8600 Benchmarks

[homerdog]

Baron knew about a lot of stuff that we didn't... Like he knew about AMD's reverse hyperthreading before all of us did.

Wasn't reverse hyperthreading proven to not actually exist?

 

[computertech82]

My beef is having amd still getting beat by....AMD. That's right, the OLD x2 6400+ ! The cpu is a piece of crap until it can beat it's OWN AMD line of cpus.
Pretty sad when it's a DOWNGRADE then an upgrade. It might be a descent LOW-end cpu, but with Intel commanding the mid and high-end, not really any use for the amd cpus anymore.
I'm still hoping that a lot of ppl can actually overclock the 9850BE to beat the 6400+ once and for all (3ghz or 3.2ghz?).

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

Wasn't reverse hyperthreading proven to not actually exist?

Oops.

 

[Just_An_Engineer]

My beef is having amd still getting beat by....AMD. That's right, the OLD x2 6400+ ! The cpu is a piece of crap until it can beat it's OWN AMD line of cpus.
Pretty sad when it's a DOWNGRADE then an upgrade. It might be a descent LOW-end cpu, but with Intel commanding the mid and high-end, not really any use for the amd cpus anymore.
I'm still hoping that a lot of ppl can actually overclock the 9850BE to beat the 6400+ once and for all (3ghz or 3.2ghz?).

There are many instances in which the 9850 or even the 9550 for that matter will perform much better than the 6400. In pretty much any instance where more than 2 threads are running (usually during multitasking) the quad core will perform much better. If you are talking about performance while running just one or two threads, then yes the 6400 will in general be faster, but if all you are going to do is run one or two threads at a time then why would you spend the extra money for a quad core processor?

 

[Reynod]

The 6400 memory latency is much lower and the IMC runs at core ... so even if the IPC is slightly lower than Phenom it has an advantage in a number of scenarios.

Plus it runs at 3.2Ghz and is the fastest silicon AMD makes ... still

And 90nm ...

A good gaming cpu for the price.

Runs a tad hot ... not as hot at the Q6600 tho ... man the number of threads on that topic alone is annoying.

 

[Just_An_Engineer]

The 6400 memory latency is much lower and the IMC runs at core ... so even if the IPC is slightly lower than Phenom it has an advantage in a number of scenarios.

Plus it runs at 3.2Ghz and is the fastest silicon AMD makes ... still

And 90nm ...

A good gaming cpu for the price.

Runs a tad hot ... not as hot at the Q6600 tho ... man the number of threads on that topic alone is annoying.

All valid points. However, I was trying to stress that although in many cases the 6400 is faster than the current Phenom chips, the Phenoms do have areas where they are better suited. If you are a person who frequently multitasks to a high degree (i.e watching a movie or playing a game while simultaneously encoding a DVD, etc.) a quad core processor makes more sense.

There have already been a number of threads debating the benefit of quad cores over dual cores so I don't want to rehash all of that here. The point is, you can't make a blanket statement saying that the Phenom chips are failures for not clocking as high as the 6400 X2 because the Phenom chips can do some things that the 6400 X2 can't, such as process 4 threads at once.

 

[quanger]

Core for Core the 6400 X2 is still the fastest of AMD's line.

Too bad AMD cant glue two chips together like intel did. Because if it was possible, I cant imagine the performance of a dual 6400X2 (and the head dissipation lol).

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Core for core, the 8xxxs are still Intels fastest lines, meaning that dual cores are still faster than quads. Both AMDs solution at top oc dual vs quad and Intels are quite similar

 

[epsilon84]

Core for core, the 8xxxs are still Intels fastest lines, meaning that dual cores are still faster than quads. Both AMDs solution at top oc dual vs quad and Intels are quite similar

Huh? The Penryn Q9x50 quads share the same core as the Wolfdale E8x00. Theres no overlap in product lines like AMD.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

You obviously know that wasnt what I was saying...........................................................................Even the Old x6800s clock better and outperform the new quads.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

If the current dual chips from AMD are faster than the current AMD quads, then you can say the same thing about Intels chips as well. And like I said, you can go back a bit for that being so, longer than the 6400 has been around.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

And if someone still doesnt understand, Im saying at peak performance, best oc. The duals win, and really could come with a higher standard clock than the quads, but theyll never do that cause how will they ever sell them then?