AMD Unveils Threadripper Retail Packaging

[geekguy]

@Kenneth Barker: Dude, take a chill pill. You seem like a very angry little person. Just stop and read what you wrote again and realize the potential asshat you seem to be.
I'm not an AMD fan, nor Intel, but I'm pretty sure AMD chips do work and have been working pretty good. Oh, btw, a company that it is not interested in saving money, will not last long.

 

[TMTOWTSAC]

By the same token, large companies won't hesitate to throw a few thousand at test systems to see how the alternatives are doing. Even if they have no intention of switching, they need to know the landscape. Otherwise they're at a big disadvantage when negotiating with their preferred vendors. Or worst case scenario, their preferred vendor could be headed out of business no matter how large it is, a la Kodak. And if those test systems perform well enough, that can win future business.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ said it in a more refined way.

 

[David_732]

JENSEN_3 12 hours ago
Too expensive for your typical AMD shopper

I agree. those that will buy it would have spent more an Intel chip for less performance!!! So they'll buy AMD instead

 

[redgarl]

So far Vega seems to not go against a TI which is surprising for a 12TFLOP card. I will be honest, a little deceived, however if it is stronger than a 1080 GTX for 100$ less like they claim with HBM2, it's a really good deal.

The stock will be so volatile in the upcoming days.

TFLOPS has never been a good indication of game performance. AMD has been equal to or in some cases higher TFLOPS than what NVidia has yet game performance shows a different result.

I doubt it will be $100 less than a GTX 1080 since the MSRP is $499 for the 108. That would make Vega $399 with HBM2? Seems a bit cheap for something with a new tech that should add to the cost of the hardware.

TFLOPS are a good ball in the park indicator of raw power. Vega is having 20% more TFLOPS and I am expecting big Vega to be around 10-20% stronger than a GTX. Of course, it will be impossible to figure out until 2-3 months from the launch due to drivers and optimization. Anyway, nobody knows anything for now, but I just hope the radio silence and the delays were not due to complications, however I believe it is.

I know Vega core are going to be something for their APUs mobile and expecting 1080p capabilities without a discret GPU, however I am not so sure about their desktop counterparts.

 

[Rob1C]

The real challenge will be to build a ?ATX System inside the included Chassis (retail packing).

The plastic front would sure make a fancy cover for an unused fan hole on an 'LED Fan Case' (like an Antec 1200 V3).

 

[JamesSneed]

By the same token, large companies won't hesitate to throw a few thousand at test systems to see how the alternatives are doing. Even if they have no intention of switching, they need to know the landscape. Otherwise they're at a big disadvantage when negotiating with their preferred vendors. Or worst case scenario, their preferred vendor could be headed out of business no matter how large it is, a la Kodak. And if those test systems perform well enough, that can win future business.

Well put. Large companies also know having competition in products is very good for them like you mentioned so they don't have all there eggs in one basket but also for costs. If AMD gets pretty close performance, stability all the metrics they care about then I bet companies start having a mix of AMD / Intel for certain workloads. This will be like turning a battleship it wont happen overnight like some others suggest.

 

[TJ Hooker]

Spoiler

So far Vega seems to not go against a TI which is surprising for a 12TFLOP card. I will be honest, a little deceived, however if it is stronger than a 1080 GTX for 100$ less like they claim with HBM2, it's a really good deal.

The stock will be so volatile in the upcoming days.

TFLOPS has never been a good indication of game performance. AMD has been equal to or in some cases higher TFLOPS than what NVidia has yet game performance shows a different result.

I doubt it will be $100 less than a GTX 1080 since the MSRP is $499 for the 108. That would make Vega $399 with HBM2? Seems a bit cheap for something with a new tech that should add to the cost of the hardware.

TFLOPS are a good ball in the park indicator of raw power. Vega is having 20% more TFLOPS and I am expecting big Vega to be around 10-20% stronger than a GTX.

If you're talking about gaming performance, then no, not really. Only case where that sort of works is cards with the same/similar architecture, not comparing AMD to Nvidia. Just look at RX 480 vs GTX 1060. 480 outperforms the 1060 by 33% based on FLOPs (using stock boost clocks), and that isn't remotely borne out by gaming benchmarks. If you're not talking about gaming performance, well, I'm not sure how useful a metric "raw power" is.

 

[derekullo]

Dr. Lisa Su:
'Cause I've got a golden ticket
I've got a golden twinkle in my eye
I never had a chance to shine
Never a happy song to sing
But suddenly half the world is mine

I'm more interested in your sig... how have you managed to slap a 4930K onto a Z87 board? ;D

Great catch.
Must have mistyped it years ago.

Intel Core i7-4930K
ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011

Updating Sig lol.

 

[ddferrari]

Pretty sad for AMD when they are so slow at releasing products (where the hell IS Vega, anyway?) that their new empty box draws media coverage.
I wonder how retailers will feel about this box taking up ten times the space of a single Intel retail package?

 

[InvalidError]

I wonder how retailers will feel about this box taking up ten times the space of a single Intel retail package?

Retailers won't mind as long as those they buy for resale actually sell as they usually earn bigger margins on more expensive parts.

 

[cryoburner]

Pretty sad for AMD when they are so slow at releasing products (where the hell IS Vega, anyway?) that their new empty box draws media coverage.
I wonder how retailers will feel about this box taking up ten times the space of a single Intel retail package?

Yes, they should just put the bare CPU in a form-fitting blister pack, so shoplifters can easily pocket them by the handfuls. Considering that the sale of one of these high-end CPUs is undoubtedly more profitable for a retailer than the sale of lower-end processors, the slightly increased shelf-space required by one will be more than offset by the value of the product filling that space.

 

[ddferrari]

Pretty sad for AMD when they are so slow at releasing products (where the hell IS Vega, anyway?) that their new empty box draws media coverage.
I wonder how retailers will feel about this box taking up ten times the space of a single Intel retail package?

Yes, they should just put the bare CPU in a form-fitting blister pack, so shoplifters can easily pocket them by the handfuls. Considering that the sale of one of these high-end CPUs is undoubtedly more profitable for a retailer than the sale of lower-end processors, the slightly increased shelf-space required by one will be more than offset by the value of the product filling that space.

Yes, there's absolutely no size range in between the Ryzen's mini-ATX-sized box and the roughly 4x3x2" package Intel provides...and I've never seen CPU's sitting around on shelves before. Where do you live? Where I'm from, they are always displayed behind the counter or in a locked case.

PS Could you provide a link to any story claiming that Intel's CPU retail package size has lead to numerous thefts? Thanks bro!

 

[Rob1C]

Threadripper is made from the Epyc CPU.

Watch this Delidding Video: https://youtu.be/ZoVK6rJR5VE?list=PLWa6uO3ZUweCJdkCXWhENecSpwQyN7Jge .

 

[cryoburner]

Yes, there's absolutely no size range in between the Ryzen's mini-ATX-sized box and the roughly 4x3x2" package Intel provides...and I've never seen CPU's sitting around on shelves before. Where do you live? Where I'm from, they are always displayed behind the counter or in a locked case.

PS Could you provide a link to any story claiming that Intel's CPU retail package size has lead to numerous thefts? Thanks bro!

My point was that just because you can make the CPU packaging tiny, doesn't mean it's necessarily all that beneficial for a high-end product, and many CPU boxes tend to be larger than they need to be. An i5-7600k comes in a box that's large enough to easily hold more than a dozen of the processors with room to spare. Threadripper's box may be larger, but the CPU itself is significantly larger as well. And even Threadripper's packaging takes up far less space than many items costing much less, like a box of copy paper.

As for the articles about small CPU packaging leading to thefts, they can be found right next to the articles about retailers complaining about Threadripper's box.

 

[ddferrari]

Yes, there's absolutely no size range in between the Ryzen's mini-ATX-sized box and the roughly 4x3x2" package Intel provides...and I've never seen CPU's sitting around on shelves before. Where do you live? Where I'm from, they are always displayed behind the counter or in a locked case.

PS Could you provide a link to any story claiming that Intel's CPU retail package size has lead to numerous thefts? Thanks bro!

My point was that just because you can make the CPU packaging tiny, doesn't mean it's necessarily all that beneficial for a high-end product, and many CPU boxes tend to be larger than they need to be. An i5-7600k comes in a box that's large enough to easily hold more than a dozen of the processors with room to spare. Threadripper's box may be larger, but the CPU itself is significantly larger as well. And even Threadripper's packaging takes up far less space than many items costing much less, like a box of copy paper.

As for the articles about small CPU packaging leading to thefts, they can be found right next to the articles about retailers complaining about Threadripper's box.

Nice try, but the Intel boxes have been here for years and I've never heard of a "theft problem" until you made it up. Threadripper hasn't been released yet (haven't you heard?) so your comeback doesn't really work. And if Ryzen needs this much larger of a box than Intel, it must be the size of a Nintendo cartridge.