AMD vs. Intel: Refuting Historical Inaccuracies

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So, LRB is mainly a gpu? And itll sell and compete well? And so is Fermi?
I agree somewhat, as this is mainly untread water, that being gpgpu usage.
But, there really hasnt been alot out there for much more than a year, and that solution is not specific, not like Fermi nor LRB.
Mobo pricing cant equate with IGP pricing, maybe I missed something, if so, sorry, or point it out.
I think Intel investing billions into LRB shows more than a trickle of usage for gpgpu usage, as well as nVidia placing its entire future on it, so maybe they know something you and I dont. Thats where Im coming from. Too much money thrown at this, to say it wont take off, and quickly at that
 

I think too many people have forgotten (or don't know about) the time when Lotus 123 was about as graphical as the GUI got and the realms of anything beyond that involved a coin op or a super 'pooter.
 


Maybe he can't afford to pay for an i7? Do you actually know for a fact that he does own a phenom II btw?
 


I didn't say he should be banned from here, I said he should be banned from AMDZone. Don't let your personal hatred of all things AMD make you abuse your position mousemonkey - and yes you are getting dangerously close to being that kind of asshat just because your precious Nvidia is tanking.
 
I'm suprised that either side actually really cares (elmo/keith conversation)

Neither party should be fighting/arguing over a difference in opinion (nobody is debating facts that I can see). Some are complaining other parties wont listen to their view, or their points, or their logic - but then do the same thing?

What actually annoys me and causes me to support elmo, is he posted up some interesting (and what seems to be correct) information, and keithlm (who isn't a regular in THG) comes in - and instead of just expressing a one paragraph like "Well in my point of view..." turns it in to a 3 page argument with the OP. And the result of which was nothing more than 'well I dont think its important'.

Feel free to list any other outcomes from that conversation.

Thumbs up to Croc who seems to know how to post an opinion without pissing everyone off.

I think AMD deserves credit for it because they were smart enough to impliment it sooner rather than later (and maintain it).

That's the opposite to croc, but we're not going to bite each others heads off over it.

 
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That should be 'old friend' as he was here long before you, actually. And if we were to start banning people who 'just come in to wind up the natives' who's names would make it onto the list I wonder?




I didn't say he should be banned from here, I said he should be banned from AMDZone. Don't let your personal hatred of all things AMD make you abuse your position mousemonkey - and yes you are getting dangerously close to being that kind of asshat just because your precious Nvidia is tanking.

Comments that make me go 'Huh?????'.
 


That is nvidia logic upendra.

If somebody comes here and says they have something, the onus is on them to prove that - not on me to prove otherwise if I disagree.

If anybody wants me to prove I have a Q6600, and have owned many Nvidia cards, I can do that quite easily.
 


Croc has made plenty of posts that have pissed me off tbh. I guess it really depends on how you are looking at it to start with.
 
jennyh, I'll go to bat for Elmo, tho Im sure he doesnt need it.
Yes, he appreciates AMD, way long time ago, and if he says he still does, then he does.
Im thinking hes as much a faboy of not being a fanboy as fanboys are to their own choices, be it cpus gpus or whatever, and kudos for that
 
Ok realise this - I have never heard of this 'elmo' before now, and to me he looks like a very clear-cut case of an intel windup merchant.

If you didn't know him before now you'd be thinking the exact same thing. That is the way he comes across, and what KeithLM said about him losing his composure is true - and all I said was that I had noticed him doing it as well.
 


Case in point. Uncfan has no reason to see it otherwise except what he sees, and he sees Elmo as being an intel Fanboy.
 

haha perhaps I chose a bad example, I was really just referring to his post on this page.

Also this topic it is a bit of a dead horse. Neither side (elmo vs keith) is going to back down.

elmo - do a post that refutes Intel fanboy claims too ?? jennyh can help you list them :) I'm sure she's heard them all.

 

I would mention the K5, K6, Slot A, Socket A, 754 and 939 rigs but that would spoil your impression of me. :kaola:
And if you think that Nvidias current position would have any bearing on whether I choose to ban somebody or not, I suggest you read the ToS.

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At best case, Elmo is just a frustrated ex-AMDZoner who will almost certainly go on to hate all things AMD just because he got banned from AMDZone forums.

He reminds me very strongly of our much-beloved Fazers. That is how I see it. If he wants to hate AMDZone then fine - I'm no great lover of draconian rules and I doubt I'd fit in at AMDZone either because of that - but Elmo here is showing all the hallmarks of turning into yet another AMD hater for no good reason.
 



Haha, you know what they say on AMDZone about people who bring up their old AMD system ownership right? 😀
 


I agree completely. I see it in Mousemonkey - clearly he has a favouritism for Nvidia and the recent happenings are difficult to take. I don't think he's gone rogue or anything, just really frustrated.

We are all like that. AMD supporters do not want to see yet another intel fanboy coming to the forum, especially not with that attitude. If elmo turns out ok, then thats great. All I am saying is that my first impression of him set of my intel fanboy alarm, twice, and it hasn't really stopped ringing yet.

AMDZone may well be the most horrible forum on earth, I honestly have no idea because I only post and read the forums here, and that is how I see it from my little THG bubble. But for elmo to come in here guns blazing vs AMD doesn't exactly enamour me to him.
 


Ok fair enough. I 'get' that he is frustrated at AMDZone but does that really require him to go on an all out assault vs AMD?
 

There are a few things you should know about Elmo:

1) He never tries to be popular.
2) His posts are often "confronting," but that's just his posting style, and is related to point 1).

Also, if you saw him post about AMD and NVIDIA, I'm sure you'd be much happier to join in 😀
 


I bet he is frustrated. As soon as he posts history that doesn't benefit AMD, he gets slaughtered by AMD fans. You complain about the same thing reversed. So I'd expect you to be able understand the situation.

I doubt he would go anti-AMD because of forum removal. To me he seems like the guy that just goes for the best product at the time. He doesn't troll THG making anti-AMD statements or anything like that.

 


Personally, I see Elmo as a bit of a realist. He has his opinions, as do we all, but generally they are supported by facts.

Myself, at the moment, I prefer Xeons and Quadros. Why? Because they give my clients the biggest boost in productivity. I look forward to the new six core CPUs coming out, and will do some serious benching on them. I'd also like to see ATI improve their lineup of FirePro and FireGL cards, and may re-visit this issue once the 59xx series hits. I don't care what company makes what bits, I only care what system gives my clients the biggest boost in productivity for their needs.
 
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