AMD: We've Received the $1.25 Billion From Intel

[curnel_D]

[citation][nom]Belardo[/nom]If AMD was making the sales and profits they deserved during the AMD XP/64/939 era, they would have had the funding to put into R&D to make a better AM2 chip. The first AMD X4 was a disaster. High priced, slower than most C2D. [/citation]
AMD had the funding. They threw it all away on the 4x4 platform which blew and tanked real hard, and the ATI aquisition. Lets not forget the luxuries they could afford at the time. They had the money, and more.

AMD didnt fall behind in the CPU race because of lack of money. They fell behind because of piss poor buisness management and a real hard streak of bad luck.

If they had taken Intel's upcoming C2D Tech seriously, they wouldnt be in the mess they are now. And they had plenty of clues coming from the Pentium M line that was beating out P4's in the performance race with half the Hz.

 

[buwish]

Wouldn't it be nice to check your bank account one day and find $1.2 billion? aaah...I can dream...

 

[curnel_D]

[citation][nom]buwish[/nom]Wouldn't it be nice to check your bank account one day and find $1.2 billion? aaah...I can dream...[/citation]
Nah, cause then you have to pay your lawyars.

 

[jonpaul37]

[citation][nom]IzzyCraft[/nom]Well the deal has been news for awhile[/citation]

I called this one out months ago, bought a January option @ $5.73 per/share back in September for $7.20 per/share!!! it has well surpassed $7.20 and still climbing! HOORAY FOR ME!

 

[fatedtodie]

so this is AMD saying "we got cheated, we got paid, now put us in the news again even though we have nothing to show new.

 

[gamerjames]

And I'm not even going to comment on the spelling and grammer...

ATTENTION: If you are a grammar nazi, please spell grammar correctly!

Thanks.

 

[exar333]

More money for AMD to blow...

 

[werfu]

[citation][nom]falchard[/nom]Watch out AMD, Intel loves this deal because it gets patents to ATI.[/citation]

I'm pretty sure this doesn't cover graphic hardware patents.

 

[bunz_of_steel]

Keep the money away from those money hungry executives!! they' pocket half of it and then cry for government bail out.

 

[C0BRA]

You can bet your @ss it does. Falchard, and a few others were the few that really paid attention. I don't think this will be seen as a good deal for AMD in the long run.

Why else would they have settled so quickly, and unless you all forget what happened with x64, it was AMD's, and Intel tried to get MS to support a version they were working on because they didn't want to be seen as an AMD wannabe, and Microsoft said no, because Microsoft was too far along with the AMD code for 64bit Windows, so Intel had to use AMD 64bit architecture. They had a cross licensing deal then too. Know how much in royalties Intel had to pay AMD to use their code? NOTHING at all. if AMD had not sold the farm back then, they wouldn't need this 1.25b, as Intel would be paying AMD royalties for years.

werfu 12/14/2009 6:28 PM

falchard :
Watch out AMD, Intel loves this deal because it gets patents to ATI.

I'm pretty sure this doesn't cover graphic hardware patents.

 

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]yang[/nom]its nice to hear these multinational corporations settle things in a civil manner like mature adults. Now if we can get apple/microsoft to work together[/citation]
Yeah, let me know how that works out...

 

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]Bunz_of_Steel[/nom]Keep the money away from those money hungry executives!! they' pocket half of it and then cry for government bail out.[/citation]
That's Bankers you are thinking about.

 

[belardo]

[citation][nom]Curnel_D[/nom]AMD had the funding. They threw it all away on the 4x4 platform which blew and tanked real hard, and the ATI aquisition.[/citation]

er no... 4X4 was AMDs quick and stupid way to come out with a "quad" core CPU. It required almost nothing to develop since they were only repackaged Opterons that didn't use ECC memory and allowed CF... thats about it. It was stupid since everyone knew it would be slower than the much cheaper Core2.

AMD didnt fall behind in the CPU race because of lack of money. They fell behind because of piss poor buisness management and a real hard streak of bad luck.

It takes money to pay for R&D and such. AMD is usually running in the black or red. Notice all the KEWL intel ads these past 10 years? bunnies, blue-man group, now geek-stars? AMD doesn't have that kind of cash. And yes, AMD has management problems too boot. Bad luck was intel's illegal business actions.

 

[curnel_D]

[citation][nom]Belardo[/nom]er no... 4X4 was AMDs quick and stupid way to come out with a "quad" core CPU. It required almost nothing to develop since they were only repackaged Opterons that didn't use ECC memory and allowed CF... thats about it. It was stupid since everyone knew it would be slower than the much cheaper Core2.It takes money to pay for R&D and such. AMD is usually running in the black or red. Notice all the KEWL intel ads these past 10 years? bunnies, blue-man group, now geek-stars? AMD doesn't have that kind of cash. And yes, AMD has management problems too boot. Bad luck was intel's illegal business actions.[/citation]
And you think aquiring one of the two giant discrete graphics and chipset companies wouldnt have paid for quality RnD and those 'kewl' amd ads?

Nah. AMD has never been as flashy as intel in that respect, high cashflow or not. AMD could have put the billions into research and development, instead of into an aquisition, and they would have far better CPU technology because of it.

AMD didnt NEED a graphics company, they NEEDed RnD. AMD didnt INVEST in RnD, they INVESTed in a graphics company.

This is simple cause and effect. If AMD hadnt under-estimated the core2 tech, and started early development on a better proccesor than the athalon 64 technology far sooner than they did, they would probably be in a position to buy ATI today, while still competing with intel on more than just price.

And the 4x4 proccessors took nothing to develop, a stable and semi-affordable platform to run them in took development time.

 

[shravankale]

Well AMD has given a challenge to the market dominant INTEL.......now with all the money....they should try and give competition to Intel's i series specially the i7

 

[back_by_demand]

Some might say that the diversification into discrete graphics has allowed the company to stay afloat in the face of a superior CPU with the HD5000 series being a serious cashcow. The money that comes from the Intel deal and the profits from the best graphics on the market could very well be pumped into R&D for the next round of CPU's.

AMD has been round for a long time, they don't rush into things and when it comes to business it pays to play the long game. First thing, don't compete with the i7, it is already lost battle. The next fight is over 8-core chips. I don't know who is going to win the next round, as AMD did with the Athlon 64s against woeful Pentium 4s, but it should be an interesting fight which ultimately us, the consumer, is the eventual winner.

 

[shravankale]

@back_by_demand well i agree with all ur points.....except for that i don't think that the batlle vs i7 is lost. AMD's latest procy the Phenom II X4 965 BE is to compete with Intel quad core range. I read some articles regarding AMD's future plans, and they plan to release 8 and 12 core cpu's in 2010. So nothing up against the i7 yet but soon cause if the sales of the i7 procy's pick up there prices might reduce and it will hit AMD's already unstable condition, because i7 is introduced in the main stream market...so good luck AMD

 

[back_by_demand]

Well thats pretty much what I just said, AMD are releasing 8 - 12 core chips, as far as the quad core battle goes Intel won. Of course the proof of the pudding will be performance. No matter what the pricing structure, where top chip commands ridiculous overpricing, AMD needs to take a good look at the forthcoming 6 core Intel chips and even if they have to release a 12 core to beat it then having the bragging rights of the fastest setup will give them a massive boost in advertising and sales. Not to mention swinging some of the most difficult customers, the hardcore enthusiast. Just to be able to say you have the fastest CPU and the fastest Graphics is a big thing, to have them come from the same company hasn't been done before.

AMD to release 12 core chip to steal the thunder of Intels i9
ATI to release HD6000 to bang the final nail into nVidia's coffin

It doesn't have to last very long, with the anti-trust stuff hanging over Intel and nVidia caught napping it may very well be a good time to buy shares in AMD/ATI.