AMD "Zembezi

[illfindu]

Hey im looking towards the future and I'm eyeing the AMD 8 core bulldozer CPU'S coming down the line. I'v seen some source say there going to use a AM3+ Socket and im wondering if that means youll be able to toss one in a current AM3+ compatible board?
Will my current http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130297&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+AMD-_-MSI-_-13130297 msi 870A Fuzion work i noticed just now that its a AM3 not a AM3+ I'm guessing that means ill need a new mother board cause the sockets are comparable?

 

[kilo_17]

So, I'm assuming your point is that in the long run it would almost be better for AMD if Bulldozer didn't do well?

 

[kilo_17]

Do you think Samsung would buy AMD if they can't survive on their own?

 

[jimmysmitty]

How many times was BD postponed? I haven't been following it for too long.

The current BD was never postponed. The original BD was cut from the roadmaps and didn't come back until after PHII was out.

Could be but we will have to wait and see.Can't say until we see some legitimate benchmarks coming out in the next few months.If it does I'll build such a system for myself.My opinion is that once Intel gets their 22nm chips out AMD's CPU's will get behind again although it would be really great to see them have a thoroughbred top winner even if it's only for a short while.

Technically even with Bulldozer, AMD will still be behind by more than a year in process maturity. Plus 22nm already looks AMAZING. 3.8GHz @ less than a volt? I think it was 0.95v for the 22nm SRAM @ 3.8GHz. It makes me wonder how high it will clock stock and then overclock.

Plus the IGP will be a shrink as well which will lower power consumption and Intel could possibly double the units in the GPU and therfore possibly double the power along with raise the clocks of it as well increaseing its performance again.

Plus we will see a bit about Ivy Bridge in May too and it will be drop in support for H67, P67 and Z68.

 

[kilo_17]

3.8 at less than a volt?

 

[jimmysmitty]

3.8 at less than a volt?

I can't find the original story because it was posted in 2009 but I remember that because I was amazed by it.

 

[dogman_1234]

^ Heck, we are getting OIC's now, they run off of just micro watts of energy!

 

[Lian]

Well $800 USD (if it is USD) will only get you part of the way unless you already have the other components (case and power supply ,OS etc.) or are building a inexpensive system (almost a budget build).Wait till you have $1,200 USD or more.If the 4 module BD (FX-8000) performs on par with the i7-2600K expect comparable competitive prices.If the higher end FX-8000's blows away anything Intel has $800 might possibly not get you a FX-8000 series CPU.

I have $800 to upgrade with. In other words CPU + Mobo + Ram.

 

[dogman_1234]

^ Spam form China.

 

[Lian]

^ Sorry.

Thee was a previous post there that was spam. I was not referring to you.

Oh right, my mistake 🙁 really sorry about that. Had my guns blazing and all 🙁

 

[dogman_1234]

^ Sorry.

Thee was a previous post there that was spam. I was not referring to you.

 

[asiarules]

Is it even possible that BD could overtake Sandy Bridge?

Maybe who knows!!

 

[kilo_17]

easiest way to get in the cpu market. They already got the top grade ics and ram technology, budget and R&D. Combine that with a Cpu/gpu manufacturer and you got a hit

Good point. Looks like that situation would be a win for Samsung and AMD

 

[saint19]

If Samsung owned AMD, wont that give them a really unfair advantage in the laptop, netbook, tablet, basically PC OEM department?

Not really, Samsung isn't the largest PC OEM manufacturer. DELL, HP and Toshiba (for laptops) are the biggest ones and they still using Intel in 90% of the rigs that they build.

 

[kilo_17]

If Samsung owned AMD, wont that give them a really unfair advantage in the laptop, netbook, tablet, basically PC OEM department?

I see what you mean, but it doesn't even seem like AMD is in the laptop, netbook, etc. market (yet)

 

[Upendra09]

radeon 6990s in 3D TVs sounds awesome

 

[kilo_17]

^Yeah, that would be pretty cool, two 6990s running a game in 3D.

 

[kilo_17]

Oh yeah. I guess the better way to say it is that AMD doesn't seem to be as prominent as Intel in the mobile market. Maybe Fusion will change that....

 

[kilo_17]

Ah so that took a big chunk of money buying ATI? The fact that they don't have enough R&D money makes sense as to why they are two generations behind Intel with their CPU's.

 

[kilo_17]

I didn't know ATI has helped AMD that much

 

[BadTrip]

I agree Greg. AMD buying Ati is the only reason they still exist, but I think they paid too much.

 

[kilo_17]

How much did they pay for ATI?

 

[enzo matrix]

Ok i'm going with intel for my new build but maybe in 5 years i will use AMD again if they still excist.

Lol if they don't exist, there will be a monopoly, which is illegal. And I do not know what would happen then.

There needs to be more competition in the x86 high performance computing industry OR windows needs to start supporting other architectures that can push themselves to start performing in that range.

AMD has been relying on k8/10 ever since it was the best. Unfortunately, they still cannot compete in the high end. This may not appear to be an issue but it is for the consumer. It caused intel to not have to push out their more powerful and newer i7s so quickly due to lack of competition. I'm sure if AMD had been able to release a faster architecture sooner, we would have been seeing core i5s at stock 3.8GHz turbo to 4.5GHz.

Look at what AMD is doing to compete in the mid-high end. Their Phenom IIs are now clocked stock much closer to the max overclock consumers have achieved within reasonable temperatures. (3.5GHz). Obviously, AMD has a more stringent process for testing stability and binning the processors for certain frequencies.

 

[kilo_17]

Then we'll see Intel GTX 580's

 

[jimmysmitty]

radeon 6990s in 3D TVs sounds awesome

I am not impressed with it. Is a power hog (375w) and puts heat back in the case. Thats not a win for me.

How much did they pay for ATI?

$4.8 Billion. And soon after they bought ATI it dropped in value a lot.

Even though I still think ATI is fantastic.

 

[kilo_17]

Wow. Why did ATI's value drop after AMD bought them?