No one here has said Ryzen 5000 won't sell, and most of the people here lamenting the price are current AMD users looking to upgrade, not Intel trolls.
Not really, the world is bigger than this thread, it has become a ubiquitous comment across forums, and its mostly Intel enthusiasts doing the talking, if you want to count posts on the discussion and posts that continuously steer the conversation continuously toward this complaint. In this thread most AMD enthusiasts were not lamenting the price, interestingly enough.
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Reality check:
The 5950x is only 6.5% more expensive than the 3950x, so its not like its a 20% hike across the board.
Those people needing to squeeze their budget, will have lower end skus presented to them at some point soon, and the massively touted 3rd gen ryzen will drop a bit further in price increase value for those that need the extreme value option - over and above they extreme value they brought compared to the competition.
So continuing to present this new gen as "quite disappointing" is a bit interesting. We have 20% more performance and have 6.5-20% more cost, sku dependent, no new mobo or chipsets to have to buy into, so that means value has increased in all but one presented sku where it remained the same. AMD already presented great value for performance so being the "same" in a worst case scenario is still great value, and still a lot better than any of their competition. The rest of the new skus
have increased in value vs performance ratio.
If you want bang for buck, its still AMD. If you want best value, its still AMD. If you want the best of multi-threaded performance, still AMD by a long shot. Best single threaded performance, now its undebatably AMD. Best gaming, now also AMD (to be verified by 3rd parties). Best thermals (TBD for zen3), AMD. Best power consumption, likely still AMD. Best platform longevity, still AMD.
I'm not sure what "AMD enthusiasts" have to complain about, but I guess certain people will ignore all the above facts and still complain because that's their outlook on life, or others just want to find something to complain about - by way of some other unmentioned motivation. Prices go up; when you are the performance leader in every metric you can charge a bit more, and AMD still hasn't even exceeded Intel's pricing per performance.
The dollar today isn't worth as much as it was two years ago, manufacturing materials costs goes up and product pricing does. The only reason why Intel has had room to lower their pricing is because their products were so massively overpriced to begin with (when Ryzen launched), due to the lack of competition at all from AMD for many years. When AMD is charging a massive premium over its competitor, and only exceeding it in
one single metric, that is when it would be justified to start complaining.
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