AMD's 3GHz K10 to break 30,000 3DMark06

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AMD's 3GHz K10 to break 30,000 3DMark06

K10: meet (Beverly) Krusher to the 10th degree

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41970

By Theo Valich @ the Inquirer: Tuesday 28 August 2007, 18:09
LAST WEEK in Leipzig my kit was nicked, but before that happened we asked AMD if it would let us run memory benchmark scores on a system there. The reps gave us the company line and declined, so we decided to disclose the benchmark scores of our own K10 benchmarking here and now.

If you were wondering why AMD was hiding the scores of K10 so secretly, there were two reasons. The first might be that the CPU sucks badly and after AMD comes out, Intel's lads can start celebrating the death of AMD. On the other hand, there the was clear and present danger of the K10 significantly beating not just the current Conroe/Kentsfield generation, but easily out besting Wolfdale/Yorkfield. This statement warrants at least three hatemails from Intel's R&D lads, but all that we will disclose here are results we have in our possession. The pics are gone with my stolen laptop, though.

The particular piece of equipment that was briefly in our possession allowed us to run 3DMark06, the most important to overclockers worldwide, and Everest 4.0, our favourite memory benchmark.

The particular processor was none other than a single socket Barcelona or Agena FX, call it what you will. The reference motherboard containing RD790 chipset packed two HD 2900XT cards, and the memory installed was Corsair’s Dominator PC2-9136C5D, or the same ones we have been using ever since they came out. There was a Raptor hard drive, and that was about that. OCZ will like the fact that PP&C Quaddie CrossFire PSU was installed in the system.

Windows Me II (Vista) Ultimate was installed as the operating system of choice. For some odd reason, the 32-bit version was installed in a system with 4GB of memory, needless to say the system detected 3.24GB, and benchmarketing commenced.

When running at 2.5GHz, the 3DMark06 score ended at 23.768, so we were thrilled to see such a good score coming from two 512MB cards. This showed the clear potential of this four core processor marchitecture, but the helter skelter ride happened after we overclocked the processor to 3.0GHz.

When clocked at 3.0 GHz and equipped with two overclocked HD2900XT cards in CrossFire, Agena FX or single-core Barcelona smashed an index of 30,000 3DMarks 06. Yes, you’ve read it right - the barrier of 30,000 was passed to, barely, 30.031. We know that there are different systems floating around, and we have no doubt that leaks will start appearing after this article goes live. Knowing what was the overclock of Kentsfield processor, Intel Yorkfield has quite a big job to do. One thing is clear, though. Intel needs Nehalem, and it needs it badly.

To be clear with you, dear readers, two HD2900XT cards were overclocked to 830MHz for the core and 900MHz for the memory, but ominous Catalyst 7.7 drivers were used.

Memory wise, it is particularly interesting to see benchmark scores of DDR2-800 on AMD’s Athlon 64 X2 or now this Phenom FX something. When running in dual channel mode, a theoretical bandwidth of 12.8 GB/s can be reached, but that is a pipe dream - of course.

In the real world, our Intel Kentie 2.93GHz test bed will score around 7.5 GB/s, Athlon 64 X2 5000+ shoots around 8.3-8.8 GB/s, depending on the memory latency, and now Phenom scores even better – pretty close to a five figure range. But regardless of missing the 10 GB/s mark, it is still faster than any DDR3 memory on an Intel system, regardless of the clock achieved by the DDR3 memory. If you put the memory on 1066 MHz, 11GB/s bandwidth was smashed with read, write and copy tests and that was by quite some margin.

We expect the results to go officially live prior to Barcelona launch in September. µ

 
Ya I read that too. The only thing I'm thinking, even though it the Inquirer that this is way too close to the launch to be shoving your foot that far into your mouth! All I have to say is if this is true, Thank God!! We need the competition.
 
So, they were able to run 3DMark06 twice, allowed to overclock it and the GPUs, but weren't allowed to run memory benchmarks.

Plus, the laptop they had pictures of all this just happens to get stolen.

Okay...other than that, totally believable article.

:pfff:
 
Am I dreaming? If this comes to realization and Intel losses their lawsuits, they might be the company in trouble.

I'm just excited about the technology. It would be wonderful to have these in desktops and laptops soon.
 
I think the logo is custom-made.

That aside, those 3DMark numbers are great... but, by the time Phenom X4 chips make their way to market, we'll probably be talking about seeing 50,000 (possibly, or even higher) from an overclocked Yorkfield (possibly from Phenom X4 as well if clocked high enough) and nVidia's next-generation flagship GPU in SLI. I guess all we can say about current 3DMark scores is "stay tuned"...
 
I don't get it. What does a 30,000 score really mean?
Lost planet will still play like crap, Vista will still have problems with the drivers, and the quad or eight core system will not be used to full potential unless doing 3d rendering or flopping...so what if barcelona is as great as this article claims...competition for Intel? bah
 
bronking,

if it is faster than the Intel chips why wouldn't it be competition? Does speed not matter anymore? What is it about... price? If that is the case I guess AMD has already won.
 




So it begins.... going on a hunch or past experience? The next two weeks may very well prove to be interesting. If for no other reason I would like to see it kick but to shut the haters up. Of course I am not directing this towards you joefriday.... I am speaking about the fanatics.
 
I see you quoted yourself. :)

As for explanation as to why I think Barcelona will stop short of expectations, my hypothesis is derived from observations of delays, paper charades, vague and highly controlled product demos (which never actually demonstrated high clocked cores nor outstanding performance), lack of third party benchmarks due either to a lengthy NDA or simple lack of engineering samples, Henry Richards exiting the company just prior to Barcelona launch, and finally, the author's well known bias towards AMD. I think the article was written by the author in the hopes that just writing it makes it true.
 
What gets me is why Amd wanted to keep the cpu a secrete...Isn't letting the world know that their quad core is the fastest and best Intel by 30% not a good idea? I'm hoping this is true tho.
 
I don't think anybody with such "readership" would spew B/S if he himself has "Sampled" a 3 Ghz Phenom and it's actually within it's speculated performance bracket. If he is truly B/S ing than it's a very cruel joke to all the readers, and he would lose loads and loads of credibility, if he has any.
 
I don't see why claiming a 3DMark score is so special. When the 2900XT launched, it could be a 8800GTX in 06, but couldn't beat a GTS in a game. Drivers have changed that, but why show GPU results for a CPU? Show me superPi. Show me zip results. Show me what getting this chip will mean to me, not how fast a system with two video cards is overall.
 
3DMark06 is special because it along with the latest and greatest Graphic Card performance gives you point lead with an amazing Overclock of CPU + GPU synchronously

http://www.futuremark.com/community/halloffame/
(Show's World Record 3DMARK06 @ 27039Points >Powered by ASUS 2900XT Crossfire 1200/1000MHz Mousepot rev4 cooled)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2835078
Show's exactly what's been used for this world record

So a 2900XT maybe blowing trades with GTS in gaming performance, but in World Records the 2900XT bangs the 8800Ultra in a 4Ways on 3D Benchmarks.
 
what is blowing a trade? Has ATI secretly been trying swap out the R600 GPU's with the G80's and not getting it done?

JoeFriday,

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.....
 
Well, if these scores are even close to being true, I won't have to think to hard about whether or not to buy a K10, and maybe a couple 2900 XTs to back it up. Of course, maybe ATI will have an updated video card by the. But this does look exciting to me.

Then again, if its all a hoax, its back to crying in the beer and buying one of the new Intel chips. Oh well, I got some time yet, so no hurry or headaches over it all.
 

Photoshop 😀 .whats the right way to post a story? will they sue me? or will i get banned? :ouch:
 




Wow do I feel stupid. didnt read what I wrote. 🙁