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Test setups (IPC)

R7 1700 3.8GHz
ASUS Crosshair VI Hero (bios 6001, PinnaclePI 1.0.0.0a)
G.Skill FlareX 3200C14 2x8GB, 2666MHz CL14-14-14-32
Windows 10 Enterprise x64 16299.248 / 16299.334
R7 2700X 3.8GHz
ASUS Crosshair VII Hero (bios 0097 – 0505, PinnaclePI 1.0.0.0a – 1.0.0.2)
G.Skill FlareX 3200C14 2x8GB, 2666MHz CL14-14-14-32
Windows 10 Enterprise x64 16299.248 / 16299.334
Core i7-8700K 3.8GHz (Ring / LLC 3.5GHz)
ASUS PRIME Z370-A (bios 0607 / 0613 w/ final Spectre µCode 0x84 patched in)
G.Skill FlareX 3200C14 2x8GB, 2666MHz CL14-14-14-32
Windows 10 Enterprise x64 16299.251 / 16299.334
Core i9-7960X 3.8GHz (Mesh / LLC 2.4GHz)
ASUS Rampage VI Apex (bios 1102 w/ final Spectre µCode 0x2000043 patched in)
Corsair LPX 3600C16 4x8GB, 2666MHz CL14-14-14-32
Windows 10 Enterprise x64 16299.251 / 16299.334
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R7 1800X
ASUS Crosshair VI Hero (bios 6001, PinnaclePI 1.0.0.0a)
G.Skill FlareX 3200C14 2x8GB, 2666MHz CL14-14-14-32
Windows 10 Enterprise x64 16299.248 / 16299.334
R7 2700X
ASUS Crosshair VII Hero (bios 0505, PinnaclePI 1.0.0.2)
G.Skill FlareX 3200C14 2x8GB, 2933MHz CL14-14-14-32
Windows 10 Enterprise x64 16299.248 / 16299.334
PR Notes: "ASUS Performance Enhancement" == "Default", "Precision Boost Override" & "Precision Boost Override Scalar" == "Auto" (Enabled).
Core i7-8700K
ASUS PRIME Z370-A (0613 w/ µCode 0x84)
G.Skill FlareX 3200C14 2x8GB, 2666MHz CL14-14-14-32
Windows 10 Enterprise x64 16299.251 / 16299.334
CFL Notes: Power limits were manually enforced and verified (95W PL1, 119W PL2, 1 second Tau). 1C = 4.7GHz, 2C = 4.6GHz, 3C = 4.5GHz, 4-5C = 4.4GHz, 6C = 4.3GHz.
Core i7-7820X
ASUS Rampage VI Apex (bios 1102 w/ final Spectre µCode 0x2000043 patched in)
Corsair LPX 3600C16 4x8GB, 2666MHz CL14-14-14-32
Windows 10 Enterprise x64 16299.251 / 16299.334
SKL-X Notes: Ring/LLC was limited to 2.4GHz, power limits were manually enforced and verified (140W PL1, 175W PL2, 1 second Tau). Windows Update automatically installs TBM3 application, and therefore it was utilized during the tests. AVX2 / AVX512 offsets were manually enforced and verified. Single threaded workloads: non-AVX2/AVX512 = 4.5GHz (TB3), AVX2 = 4.0GHz, AVX512 = 3.8GHz. nT workloads: non-AVX2/AVX512 = 4.0GHz, AVX2 = 3.6GHz, AVX512 = 3.3GHz.
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https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/page-72?_ga=2.132671693.2144098382.1523170509-185335334.1520616402#post-39391302
 
Saying it was unbeatable was in the context of the articles. The tie down to price is implied in the context.

If you want me to be explicit: "the 2700X is unbeatable at the $300 price range for gaming and streaming".

Cheers!
 
AMD catching-up in April
Notice the big sales of 2700X despite being only available for a few days in April (launched April 19). Compare with October sales of 8700K (launched October 5)
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Did the 8700K suffer from the usual "scarce" problem that "plagued" Intel in previous releases? From what I saw and remember, there was no increase in price for it during launch and even now... Tinfoilhat mode on.

Cheers!
 
8700K, you don't remember the rushed coffee lake paper launch? People were waiting 2 to 3 weeks for CPUs on back order. And side shops had binned CPUs going for ~$1,000! Der8auer got in on that with caseking.de I believe? 900 Euros! https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/844753-der8auer-sells-delidded-overclocked-8700k-52ghz-in-germany/
 


I remember that on the overclocker.net forums and i bought the 2700x and get it in 2 days with 3 day shipping from newegg haha

Will be fun to compare and tweak but at the end of the day i'll run it at stock to get that 4.35ghz boost. About the only thing i kind of hate about the 2700x is the added heat from the 1000 series. Makes me think the 2000 series is more of a radeon 500 launch then anything.

 


Ah, good. I stand corrected then.

And jdwii, Zen v1.5 is less outrageous than the RX5xx series. At least they tweaked the process and slapped a new label in it. Plus improved IF+IMC, so there are tangible benefits you can see. On the downside, they did increase power without increasing density, so simplistic-to-the-bone math suggests the temps will go up in-line and not down. Even if they use lower voltage across the loaded cores.

Still, one thing we'll need to investigate is under-volting. I'm sure PB2+XFR can work with slightly tweaked voltages.

Cheers!
 
The increase in steam users appears to be an error on steams part!
Steam Hardware & Software Survey: April 2018
Steam conducts a monthly survey to collect data about what kinds of computer hardware and software our customers are using. Participation in the survey is optional, and anonymous. The information gathered is incredibly helpful to us as we make decisions about what kinds of technology investments to make and products to offer.

STEAM HARDWARE SURVEY FIX – 5/2/2018
The latest Steam Hardware Survey incorporates a number of fixes that address over counting of cyber cafe customers that occurred during the prior seven months.

Historically, the survey used a client-side method to ensure that systems were counted only once per year, in order to provide an accurate picture of the entire Steam user population. It turns out, however, that many cyber cafes manage their hardware in a way that was causing their customers to be over counted.

Around August 2017, we started seeing larger-than-usual movement in certain stats, notably an increase in Windows 7 usage, an increase in quad-core CPU usage, as well as changes in CPU and GPU market share. This period also saw a large increase in the use of Simplified Chinese. All of these coincided with an increase in Steam usage in cyber cafes in Asia, whose customers were being over counted in the survey.

It took us some time to root-cause the problem and deploy a fix, but we are confident that, as of April 2018, the Steam Hardware Survey is no longer over counting users.
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https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
Windows 10 users
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/directx/
 


It's fixed that explains the big jump in numbers!
STEAM HARDWARE SURVEY FIX – 5/2/2018
 
Hey guy's, here's good video from Level 1. He goes into memory timing's an reduced latency on Zen+, if you run the 4000mhz ddr4 at 3000mhz an just use tighter timings has major impact on FPS.. Wendel say's AMD have managed to close the gap in the FPS in gaming down completely with this reduced Latency... Excellent Stuff.

https://youtu.be/xb_rzXHRwg0
 


I had the same intuition L1 talks about with XFR/PB2, so I have my 2700X playing on it's own and I just worried about making sure the inner-shenanigans (SenseMI?) make it boost itself in every single situation. It works so damn well I'm surprised. For comparison, my 2700K at 4.6Ghz was all-core speed all the time, but it had power saving features enabled, so it's voltage was a bit higher than what I managed to get at 4.8Ghz fixed (same voltage from what I remember), but I didn't have Speedstep (or whatever the name is) and it was running hotter and louder. The 2700X is... I don't know... It speeds up to it's max speed all the time and the steps in speed are so slim, it can run at 4,325Mhz and the next second 4.3Ghz and starts going down until it settles. The i7 2700K (prolly because of it's older implementation) had ~300Mhz jumps.

I'm still tweaking the RAM and finding some interesting information. Yes, timings are so damn important. It's incredible.

Cheers!
 
It really depends on the graphics engine as well, goldstone. Some game engines, weirdly enough, have frame rendering tied to input refresh. I don't remember nor care about the details to be honest, since I know it just happens and it's easy to perceive, but the key takeaway is that low framerates not only mean bad gameplay, they also mess with input timings, which is even more annoying. That is why in the pro scene, anything below 100FPS (at lowest) is just a no-go.

And that is not even counting online gaming, where the server and your latency also play a role and, depending on the network control implementation, it can really mess with the FPS and vice versa.

Cheers!
 
Abu Dhabi Leaders Visit Fab 8 Facility
By LUCAS WILLARD • MAY 7, 2018
GlobalFoundries is a leading manufacturer of what’s known as 14 nanometer technology to power high-tech devices. Fab 8 will soon begin manufacturing next-generation 7 nanometer technology, says new general manager Ron Sampson.

“We’re yielding the technology already, so we’re getting it ready for manufacturing right now,” said Sampson. “Our intent is to have it manufacturing with our first products going into manufacturing later this year.”
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http://wamc.org/post/abu-dhabi-leaders-visit-fab-8-facility

“Our intent is to have it manufacturing with our first products going into manufacturing later this year.”
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This statement suggests Globalfoundries is on target with their 7nm products being manufactured by the end of 2018. This looks promising for 3rd generation Zen 2 on 7nm, which could beat Intel's 10nm products to market!
 


Here is an one expectation of a possible release date:
The original line of Threadripper CPUs launched in August 2017, and seeing as Ryzen 2nd Generation CPUs released on April 19, 2018 – just one month later than the March 2017 release date for the first gen – we expect to see the Ryzen Threadripper Generation 2 launch date to fall in line this September or later.
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https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2nd-generation

It will probably be released around August to September.
 
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