Another Foxconn Worker Commits Suicide

[belltollsforthee]

[citation][nom]vinnywong[/nom]I don't buy Foxconn because of their quality. Now I think may they are haunted. They should market Halloween haunter PC and iPad (just kidding.)[/citation]

I LOL'ed SO HARD! funny but insensitive.......

 

[Tomtompiper]

"you should do your own math, 250,000/14=1 in every 17,857 people working at foxconn. "

OMG, math is not your strong point. US suicide rate is 20 people per 100,000 per year or to make it simple for you 1 in every 5,000 so for 250,000 people in a us city they would have 50 suicides per year, that is more treble the Foxcon rate. The average in China is 10 per 100,000 per year which makes theirs below average. I give your maths teacher an F for teaching.

 

[Vermil]

[citation][nom]jazz84[/nom]Oh yes, I am certainly "getting that." My point is that for a single company's suicide rate to be that close to a country's suicide rate is terrible (and yes, when we're talking about PEOPLE KILLING THEMSELVES, 20 in roughly 300,000 is still far too much). For all you stat monkeys out there, try this: compare Foxconn's suicide rate to the suicide rate of OTHER SIMILAR COMPANIES. At least that would be a fair comparison. But I digress; what the stat-heads like Tomtompiper and ecnovaec fail to realize here is that if a company has ANY trend of worker suicide (honestly, I don't give a crap how it compares to the host country), it's a problem. Attempting to rationalize it away with numbers is ignorant and, dare I say, inhuman.[/citation]

You're definitely not getting it. But your language gives away that you're just feeling, not thinking. "company suicide rate" is part of "national suicide rate" and vice versa, so you have no point there. Taking the stats at face value, we have 20 suicides per 100,000 in the US. And 10 suicides per 100,000 in China. So for some reason, chinese people seem to be less F* up than americans. (I'm sure drugs have something to do with it.) Let's just say chinese are just half as likely to be miserable as americans. Now comes the fun part: Chinese people happening to work for Foxconn show only 5.6 suicides per 100,000. So Foxconn employees are almost just half again as likely to be miserable as other chinese.
Since basically all computer components, except the silicon chips themselves inside CPUs and GPUs, are made in China, it's not Foxconn we need to boycott for a start.

 

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]jazz84[/nom]Why do people continue to compare a single COMPANY'S suicide rate to other NATIONAL suicide rates? A COMPANY SHOULD NOT HAVE A FREAKING SUICIDE RATE TO BEGIN WITH![/citation]
All companies have a suicide rate, some are just set at zero.
The larger the company the more likely they are to have a suicide amongst their staff
Foxconn employs a total of 920,000 people, that's more people than live in Detroit
Take your pick of any Fortune 500 company and there will always be a suicide, no matter how rich or supposedly happy they appear to be, such as this millionaire who worked for Microsoft
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Pioneer-Committed-Suicide-28497.shtml
Or how about this one?
http://articles.sfgate.com/2003-11-30/bay-area/17518728_1_final-report-hewlett-packard-hewlett-packard
Jumping out a corporate jet? That's messed up.

If a companies staff numbers, concentrated into a small enough area, get large enough you have to treat them the same as an equally sized other community, such as a country or a city - why? Because even though it is a company it is also a community and people live there, have family problems, broken relationships, drinking problems, gambling habits, drug dealers and any one of a thousand other suicide inducing issues other than hard work.

So if it continues at this rate, there will be 15.27 suicides by the end of the year, from 920,000 staff that is approx:-
1.66 per 100,000

USA is 11.1 per 100,000
Taiwan 17.6 per 100,000

What does this tell me? Taiwanese people commit suicide 50% more than Americans, but as soon as they join Foxconn they are 10 times LESS likely to do so.

Also considering the demographics of people most likely to kill themselves in the Taiwanese population the most at risk are those aged 20 to 35, oddly enough that's the majority of the Foxconn staff also.

So this tells me that the most vulnerable, in a country with a huge suicide problem, are given jobs at Foxconn and then 90% of potential suicides are not attempted and only a hardcore of 10% actually go through with it. Anyone who thinks that Foxconn are working their staff so hard they kill themselves is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Final word, anyone who tries to quote Mark Twain, you are a retard, these aren't statistics, these are facts - if you can't be bothered to research your own facts then just shut the hell up.

 

[kd0frg]

i got nothing but asus products and gigabyte products in my personal computers, i hope they aren't affiliated with foxconn in anyway

 

[applegetsmelaid]

Can you not quit your job in China?

 

[alea]

That Foxconn building in the picture looks like a jail...

 

[Lutfij]

I think the chinesse need to invent a virtual pet like the japanesse to curb suicides...occupy an idle workers mind lol

judging from the comments there's alot of chinese reading this site. my question to them is : is it really worth living in prison for the money? they don't get to choose what foods to buy/eat at the market, they don't get to leave the premises, they don't get to see family friends or loved ones, they don't get to talk to their co-workers even when they aren't working, they aren't even permited sexual relations unless they're raped by the gaurds. cripes prisoners in america even get to see their family and talk to each other more and eat better food and they get paid nothing! some american poor people even try to get thrown in jail during the winter and american prisoners try to kill each other over which gang they belong in!
point is the employees are treated like prisoners, they have no outside contact and next to nothing to enjoy, and you think it's no big deal to kill yourself in china?! well i suppose that's communism for you, i suppose all the objectors were run over by tanks already.

well if you were in china where they charge you money for having a second child...YOU DO THE MATH!

Culture varies my friend,a prisoner in America (technically) is a king in his seat while a prisoner in china is in real deep shit!

 

[dEAne]

If I am the authority I will shut down that facility immediately.

 

[erafael]

RIP
Wonder what's really going on in there. I guess nobody will ever tell you the truth...

 

[photog10]

It's sad to say but foxcrap has their parts in ALMOST every piece of PC hardware you can think of. GPU, MB, and some ram. Asus is a strong user of foxcrap parts. Look at your board and see for yourself.

Here: http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss8/osterit005/?action=view&current=untitled.jpg


That ceo is an asshole. I would like to throw him out the window!

 

[androticus]

FOR GOD'S SAKE THE SUICIDE RATE OF FOXCONN EMPLOYEES IS ***much*** LOWER THAN THE COUNTRY AVERAGE AND MUCH LOWER EVEN THAN THE WEST. GIVE IT A REST. thank you

 

[falchard]

The Problem is they have a stair well that says "Roof Access", but when you open the door there is nothing under your feet.

 

[chick0n]

they jump cuz young ppl these days are nothing but pussies.

man back then when I was like 15 I work my ass 17 hours a day at LEAST without breaking a sweat.

What these dumbasses/zealots don't understand is that future is ALWAYS in your own hands. You make the choice/choose your path.

 

[cj_online]

This is sad indeed, but they're still cowards for opting out with the easy way.

 

[soundping]

That's what it is to be a slave to money.

 

[mezzo]

i remember one time my senior manager quoting a phrase from foxconn ceo. telling us that we all should work like them..i think my office need to put a safety net too just in case..

 

[schwizer]

TemjinGold :
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So you're going to give up all tech and go live in a cave?

Why did this get downrated? The arguement is very real and applicable. It doesn't just apply to things made by Foxconn, it applies to many things, whether its the $39 dollar microwave from walmart, or the $30 dollar computer case, or a cheap motherboard. When I look at some of these things i can't immagine someone getting paid a decent wage in order for these products to be possible at this price point.

If one really decided to stop supporting these types of low paid labour intensive products, there would have to be a significant change in lifestyle.

 

[Guest]

I'm a bit to blaim. I always buy the cheapest i can find that supports my wishes for the product.

 

[scryer_360]

[citation][nom]JeanLuc[/nom]It's not as if every piece of computer hardware is made by Foxconn. I build my own PC's anyway so it makes it easier for to find out where the products have come from. As for any other items its just a case of finding out if they work with Foxconn or not and you get that from reading reviews of the items you buy which you should do anyway before buying expensive goods.[/citation]
Sad part about this is that even though not every part is made by Foxconn, most products have at least one Foxconn component (same can be said of Asus). You build your own desktops, ever check where all the chips on the mobo come from? Even if you aren't using a Foxconn board, there is likely a Foxconn component on it. Same to memory, CD/DVD drives, hdds, etc.

Worse is outside the desktop. iPad, iPod, iPhone? Foxconn. Galaxy S tab? has Foxconn components. Most Android phones? Joint ventures with Asus, Foxconn, and other Chinese chip manufacturers.

Any and all laptops? Most Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, and even Apple computers are built by Quanta (thats right, they are just brand names), and Quanta uses the same 8-9 parts bins for most machines they build. I work at a laptop repair center, whenever we order parts for HP laptops, half the time I get parts with Asus packaging. When I worked on the Toshiba line, I received parts from ECS.

 

[thillntn]

Etting up there... When is ghost hunters gonna go to foxconn ???

 

[Ciuy]

sh!t happenes III

 

[guardianangel42]

[citation][nom]Vermil[/nom]You're definitely not getting it. But your language gives away that you're just feeling, not thinking. "company suicide rate" is part of "national suicide rate" and vice versa, so you have no point there. Taking the stats at face value, we have 20 suicides per 100,000 in the US. And 10 suicides per 100,000 in China. So for some reason, chinese people seem to be less F* up than americans. (I'm sure drugs have something to do with it.) Let's just say chinese are just half as likely to be miserable as americans. Now comes the fun part: Chinese people happening to work for Foxconn show only 5.6 suicides per 100,000. So Foxconn employees are almost just half again as likely to be miserable as other chinese.Since basically all computer components, except the silicon chips themselves inside CPUs and GPUs, are made in China, it's not Foxconn we need to boycott for a start.[/citation]


There's a net and security guards to prevent suicides, I'd say that skews the statistics.

 

[angelraiter]

What the is goin on over there??

This is so sad. Something extreme needs to be done soon, I had a suicide in my family (my father), it is an insanely painful experience. My heart feels heavy when I think of the families involved.

 

[bebangs]

they should move to another building. 1 story building.