Apple CEO Tim Cook Responds to Reports of Worker Mistreatment

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[citation][nom]K2N hater[/nom]So you claim Apple is pretty much the same as one who buys stolen goods. The fact one could be seriously hurt or even dead is none of your business, right?[/citation]

Nope, that would be the end user. The same person that buys the iPads, the Xboxs, Zunes, MSI laptops, etc etc.
 
[citation][nom]ICRAP SLAVE LABOR[/nom]APPLE HAS KNOWN ABOUT THIS SLAVE LABOR FROM THE START WHICH IS WHY THEY CHOSE THAT PARTICULAR FACTORY!APPLE = OVER PRICES UNDER-PERFORMING ICRAP BUILT BY SLAVES![/citation]

Slaves don't have a choice of remaining there. Everyone at foxconn is free to quit and leave at any time on their own accord.
 
Hahaha, apple prices are super overpriced and their products are being made wherever it's the cheapest. Moving production to the US = 3000$ ipads, 5000$ macs and 1500$ iphones. GL & HF
 
[citation][nom]deanjo[/nom]Slaves don't have a choice of remaining there. Everyone at foxconn is free to quit and leave at any time on their own accord.[/citation]
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If Foxconn workers were free to quit whenever they see fit, why do several dozen workers chose to commit mass suicides?

If a factory worker does quit, his or her name will be tarnish from ever working again in any job in China. So to quit Foxconn, is to commit suicide alone in the streets of Beijing.
 
[citation][nom]deanjo[/nom]Slaves don't have a choice of remaining there. Everyone at foxconn is free to quit and leave at any time on their own accord.[/citation]
Easy for you to say. A worker there can't just quit a job and expect to find one the next day like you would in other places. Besides, where else are they gonna go anyway? If not Foxconn it's another factory that's gonna abuse them just as much.

[citation][nom]the real mr b[/nom]Hahaha, apple prices are super overpriced and their products are being made wherever it's the cheapest. Moving production to the US = 3000$ ipads, 5000$ macs and 1500$ iphones. GL & HF[/citation]

You should read the NYT articles, they mention the price would only increase by about $65 (other sites have posted a similar amount as well). And that's $65 more the price to day, meaning Apple would still be getting about the same profit. The problem here is that Apple get TOO MUCH profit, they have close to $100 billion in cash as we speak. The product shouldn't even be allowed to be the price it is today and yer we allow them to. This will now serve as an example for the rest of the corporations in the tech industry and other industries and that's gonna be a huge problem in the coming years. Read about corporatism.
 
Everything made in china is made in a crappy factory. if you have ever bought Msi, intel, asus anything at Walmart or target you are guilty of continuing the trend of the maxing out profits. Either throw everything out you have ever bought from china and never buy anything in china again or STFU.
 
Apple and many other tech companies: "Is it cheap, does it work, is it reasonably safe to our customers? Why is there blood and tears on this batch of smartphones? Ah nevermind, just clean it up. I'm going to go buy my 5th yacht."

Foxconn and other suppliers: "Don't worry slaves, we can always replace you with little disruption to our production. That's why we gave you starvation wages and suboptimal working conditions. I'm going to go buy my 5th yacht"
 
[citation][nom]stratplaya[/nom]I wonder if other companies who have their stuff made in China (pretty much all of them) will respond in a similar manner?[/citation]

Nope. People that buy HP don't give a Sh**. Apple is in the unique position of having lots of do-gooder liberal customers.
 
[citation][nom]etteddy[/nom]Dear Tim Cook,You are a liar. If you cared that much, you'd have your stuff made in the US. K thx.[/citation]
In Tim Cook's defense, he's only been CEO for a few months. He has absolutely no clue that Steve Jobs ignored these issues for his entire stint as Apple CEO.
 
I find it offensive that people are saying that Apple hasn't worked to improve conditions at the factories. They put a net out to catch them!
 
Dear Tim, you sound like another exec who does not have a clue what it is like in the worker class. Your words are thin and empty. If you care to get a clue about what it is like to work in those factories, work in one of Foxconn's factories, one of those factories where workers committed suicide, for three months doing what the average worker does. You just might have a clue of what it is like after the experience.
 
[citation][nom]SpaceExplo[/nom]Seriously, what the hack has Apple to do with employees of other companies? What are people shooting to Apple when the local government does not care?[/citation]
Let me put it to you in a way you might be able to understand...
Take for example, stolen property. Lets say stolen laptops. If you knowingly buy a stolen laptop, you are breaking the law. You did not steal the laptop, but by buying the stolen laptop at 30% it's original price, you are creating a market for the thieves and supporting their activities! So even though the thief is the main criminal and faces jail time, you will at the very least get a fine!
Foxconn is stealing people's lives and souls (their workers), and Apple is creating the market for Foxconn and supporting their way of doing business! Get it now? Of course, it's not only Apple that is doing this. But since it is apparently the most successful business in history (that's what another toms article said, not my opinion), it's the one that can best afford to lose some of it's profits in the interest of improving the lives of hundreds of thousands of workers that are being abused to create such high profits for Apple. Only a soulless person would be happier to pay $20 less (just a guess on the numbers) for his $500 (less than 5% savings) Apple product, even if this saving will mean some kid in China can't go to school cause he/she is staying home to take care of his younger brother/sister, while his mom and dad are slaving away at a Foxconn factory to barely earn enough money for food, until their (the parents) life is so crushed out of them that they feel their only salvation is death.
 
[citation][nom]wiyosaya[/nom]Dear Tim, you sound like another exec who does not have a clue what it is like in the worker class. Your words are thin and empty.[/citation]
I am pretty sure he has a much better idea of what is happening than you and I do.
But he is simply lying. People do that.. Not nice people of course. But no one is under the illusion that anyone running Apple (and most major companies) is nice, right? They wouldn't be where they are if they were nice and honest. So ya, he knows exactly what he is lying about... it's called propaganda. You can't reason with these people. All you can do is try to use the law to FORCE THEM to do the right thing. Which is very hard to do, since with the profits they make, they get to afford lawyers that are even less nice... grrr..
 
[citation][nom]memadmax[/nom]This is why the WinTel platform will continue to be the mainstay of computing, simply because it is dynamic enough to purge any undesirable "problems"Apple will have problems with exclusivity the bigger it gets. Why? There is no easy way to describe it, but to use as an example is government: The larger, more complex, and rigid it is, the more inefficient it will get...Besides, the only reason why apple is alive today is because they managed to find a niche in the gadget market... to consider them a computer manufacture, is a joke, it's their secondary product now... They might as well just say they are a phone company............[/citation]


You appreantly don't get out much. You might also want to expand what you read so your are not so single minded. Good luck!
 
What the hell is Tim Cook talking about? The moment Apple went to a monopolistic form of commercialization is the moment the values disintergrate and cash flow begins. dumbasses...
 
[citation][nom]sykozis[/nom]In Tim Cook's defense, he's only been CEO for a few months. He has absolutely no clue that Steve Jobs ignored these issues for his entire stint as Apple CEO.[/citation]
Tim Cook's been the executive in charge of supplies for a very long time under Jobs. He's almost directly responsible for this situation.
 
[citation][nom]billybobser[/nom]Jumped from roofs years earlier, Apple obviously improved conditions as they proceed to continue trying to jump.I smell corporate BS to save face. This guy should be well placed politician.[/citation]

Remember they installed safety nets so they couldn't jump to death at work, its an improvement for the statistics - They commit suicide at home instead and that don't attract the media so we never hear about it. Thats an improvement for Apple!
 
[citation][nom]deanjo[/nom]They are not apples factories however, they are foxconns. Apple does not own, manage, pay the employees etc. Apple pays foxconn for a supply of product. It is no more Apples factory then when you purchase food from a market. That does not make it your farm.[/citation]

So by that logic if a company purchases its products from a company that is known for its version of modern age slave working conditions and thus add to the slave-driving-company's business, that makes the purchasing company not accountable?

I think not, they still gained the extra profit by literary walking over corpses of the workers who produced their goods and they know it! Few human beings would go to that length but apparently Mr.Crock and many other hardware companies Ceo's do, all for that little extra in the wallet of their "poor" shareholders. What a bunch of nice people - The need of the few outweighs the need of the many! Speak about selling the soul to the devil for some fast cash earned by others suffering.
 
All he is doing is damage control. Like what the Nazi's did with the press.. or the Red Cross when allowed to visit.
No, we are not killing them or being mean. We are real nice people. And after the inspectors left so did the food and warm blankets and their lives.
 
I think what a lot of people are forgetting is that this is an entirely different country with different values and rules. Suicide in China/Japan/Etc is not viewed nearly as negative as we do over here in the US, I'm not agreeing it's all puppies and sunshine it sucks but once again, different country, different values, and to be honest we have no business trying to change it.

All the good will, blankets, food, or money won't make a damn bit of difference in the long run. If you want to make a difference the only thing you can do is stop buying things made in China.

With any nation experiencing growth like China there are going to be growing pains. The US went through it with the strike breakers/national guard, and we eventually made it out okay. The root cause is the fact their government treats them a certain way because they are massively overpopulated. If there wasn't 1000 Chinese people clamoring to fill 1 job position then maybe the gov/company wouldn't be able to pull half the things it's been pulling.

You may not like it but the simple fact is China is it's own country and has to find it's own way, the fact that everyone wants to stick their nose in and tell them how to run their own game is pretty offensive. I don't agree with how they run their stuff but I also realize it's none of my damn business to begin with. Either stop buying Chinese crap or pray there is some revolution/evolution in worker treatment, but stop getting in everyone's face about it.
 
Tim Cook should be named Dim Crook for being such a bad liar. At least conartist Steve Jobs had some pizzazz when he would lie to his congregation of incarxerated clueless zombies.
 
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