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You people are idiots. Apple rejects cash because the potential for sales (particularly and probably more specifically regarding) loss via 3G iPads not activated on AT&Ts network. Apple (at least with the iPhone and I'm sure with the iPad) receives a cut of the activation. If someone is selling a product they bought in the US outside the US on a different market (different market in which most of the iPads sold are more expensive than in the US - for whatever claimed reason, I'm not speaking to the validity of the claim), Apple is getting "shortchanged" - they aren't getting what they should from customer B who would have otherwise had to buy from Apple. They also are in a mutual business deal with AT&T in the US for the iPad 3G. If they don't do what is required to uphold that deal (even though Apple does seem to control most of the terms via their incredibly popular product), it would be in bad form. This is a business, they don't care about your feelings or granny's, which is as it should be. The potential for losses (either through sales that could have gone to Apple through person B or through AT&T or whatever else might be a part of their logic) is to them much greater than from weird people who don't have a bank account or own a credit card. This is -Apple- - they sell expensive products. They have very few cash-only customers who have no credit card access.

I can promise you, they have considered the pros and cons of the decision ad nauseum, potential profit loss is a huge concern even for the largest corporation. They've surely spent hundreds of thousands planning every single tiny portion of the sales process of *every* new product, from manufacture to your (well maybe not your) doorstep. They have probably made a sound decision (at least in the eyes of their shareholders, and most consumers, to whom this policy matters nothing because 99% of them are more concerned with spending with plastic on their fancy new iPad they can show off to all their friends than complaining about Apple not taking cash). Quit complaining like apple should care about this woman because it's the nice thing to do, I'm sure they have given even the potential for situation like this (someone trying to buy an iPad / phone legitimately with cash, it's not that bizarre a circumstance, they didn't "overlook it" I promise you) consideration and know more about the factors at hand than you or I possibly can. Their loss of your business obviously isn't as big a concern for them as it is for you, for some weird reason, because other than the frustrated commenters on blogs, very, very few people care. I keep seeing comments "Weeeellll now I'm not spending money there!"… Was it really THIS policy that made you not buy from Apple? Were you like, card in hand (or cash), about to run out the door until you read this? Jesus people look at what you're writing and how stupid it sounds. If you weren't going to buy from apple in the first place, fine, but don't be an overemotional girl over some mean old company not selling to granny with the backpack full of singles.

This policy has been around since 2007 people, with the iPhone. Granny should have read engadget. It's nothing new~ http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/27/apple-refusing-to-accept-cash-for-iphone-limits-em-to-two-per/
 
[citation][nom]teslaxero[/nom]Know what I find humerous is that over the weekend I purchased four firearms with cash, all of which were easier to get hold of than an iPad. Why is an oversized mp3 player hard to purchase? Next thing you know, Apple is gonna do a background check on you too. "Sir, according to our information your credit card has been used to obtain a subscription to a pornographic magazine in August of 2001. As you may be aware, this is not on the list of reading material approved by Brother Jobs. Due to this revelation, we are unable to sell you this MacBook. Furthermore you are required to surrender any Apple products you currently own for violation of the Permanent Rental Agreement. You have 7 business days to comply with this before legal action will be taken. I must now formally ask you to leave the premise before calling authorities for trespassing." Yes this is unrealistic(so far..). This was just to poke fun at all the recent articles I have seen about Apple's restrictions, i.e. Refusing cash, Jobs attempt at censorship/content restriction, and no open source(even hardware try replacing a battery an iDevice). I bought a car charger for my wife's iPhone at Best Buy, but it doesn't work. When you plug it in the phone boldly displays NOT AN APPROVED APPLE DEVICE. Its times like that I wonder how Microsoft got charged with monopoly.[/citation]

Actually, I've never ever seen it say that. What it says is that it is not approved for iPhone and that you should use it with airplane mode on.
 
is that a limit of 2 per customer per day or 2 in total. What if I wanted to buy5 of them. One for each of my family members in my house hold. Are they going to make me come back for three days straight so I can buy one for each of my family members,are they going to pay for my gas because they made me waste all that time & gas. Also if I was going to buy a crappad which i am not going to I would make sure to offer up cash just because of that policy they have & when they refuse I will keep offering it again & again just to make my point. When they finally have me arrested I would sue them for discrimination because legal tender is legal tender they have to take. Oh & by the way yes I could buy on my credit or debit card but that's not the point if I want to use cash then I am dam well going to use it.

that is all
 
[citation][nom]rddddd[/nom]You people are idiots. Apple rejects cash because the potential for sales (particularly and probably more specifically regarding) loss via 3G iPads not activated on AT&Ts network. Apple (at least with the iPhone and I'm sure with the iPad) receives a cut of the activation. If someone is selling a product they bought in the US outside the US on a different market (different market in which most of the iPads sold are more expensive than in the US - for whatever claimed reason, I'm not speaking to the validity of the claim), Apple is getting "shortchanged" - they aren't getting what they should from customer B who would have otherwise had to buy from Apple. They also are in a mutual business deal with AT&T in the US for the iPad 3G. If they don't do what is required to uphold that deal (even though Apple does seem to control most of the terms via their incredibly popular product), it would be in bad form. This is a business, they don't care about your feelings or granny's, which is as it should be. The potential for losses (either through sales that could have gone to Apple through person B or through AT&T or whatever else might be a part of their logic) is to them much greater than from weird people who don't have a bank account or own a credit card. This is -Apple- - they sell expensive products. They have very few cash-only customers who have no credit card access.I can promise you, they have considered the pros and cons of the decision ad nauseum, potential profit loss is a huge concern even for the largest corporation. They've surely spent hundreds of thousands planning every single tiny portion of the sales process of *every* new product, from manufacture to your (well maybe not your) doorstep. They have probably made a sound decision (at least in the eyes of their shareholders, and most consumers, to whom this policy matters nothing because 99% of them are more concerned with spending with plastic on their fancy new iPad they can show off to all their friends than complaining about Apple not taking cash). Quit complaining like apple should care about this woman because it's the nice thing to do, I'm sure they have given even the potential for situation like this (someone trying to buy an iPad / phone legitimately with cash, it's not that bizarre a circumstance, they didn't "overlook it" I promise you) consideration and know more about the factors at hand than you or I possibly can. Their loss of your business obviously isn't as big a concern for them as it is for you, for some weird reason, because other than the frustrated commenters on blogs, very, very few people care. I keep seeing comments "Weeeellll now I'm not spending money there!"… Was it really THIS policy that made you not buy from Apple? Were you like, card in hand (or cash), about to run out the door until you read this? Jesus people look at what you're writing and how stupid it sounds. If you weren't going to buy from apple in the first place, fine, but don't be an overemotional girl over some mean old company not selling to granny with the backpack full of singles.This policy has been around since 2007 people, with the iPhone. Granny should have read engadget. It's nothing new~ http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/27 [...] o-two-per/[/citation]

While I agree that these people are idiots, this wasn't about the iPad 3G. Also, they just changed the policy and gave the woman a free iPad.
 
And my point was mores that large corporations are intensely concerned with profit loss, despite what so many commenters seem to think. Yes, that even includes Apple. And (I guess until today) they thought that there was valid reason in the policy, or maybe they just carried the policy over from the iPhone, I don't know. Regardless, all of you who said you weren't buying apple now because of this policy can pick up your wads of ones and gang rush the nearby apple store.
 
"Granny should have read engadget."

Umm maybe she could have read it if she had a computer. Did you read the article even? She was going to buy her first computer why she wanted an ipad when she could get a far better deal pretty much with anything else is beyond me. Most likely her family was ranting about how great these magical pieces of crap were & she just had to have one. If I lived in the US I would contact her & sell her a real computer for much less & cover the cost so it had all the extra bells & whistles. It just shows how people can be duped into buying something that is pretty much useless other than simple tasks.

As I said in my other post it is non of their concern how I decided to pay for a product as long as they get their money for that product. Like I also said there are 5 people in my home & if I wanted to buy 5 ipads so each person could have one that is non of Apples business now is it.

If I lived in the USA I would head over to Apple store with jars of quarters & a news crew & try to buy one. Trust me with news canera's out front they will sell it for sure no matter what. Then I would ask for a refund right after in cash then head to the next store & do the same.
Yes this would make me kind of a a$$ but it would get a point across pretty good.

Money is legal tender the last time a place tried to not take my money they found out quick how things were.This place tried to tell me only credit card & at the time I only had cash money on me I already got the service done so they could not take it back. They threatened to call the cops on me because I would not pay by card I stated to them it did not say any where in their place of business only plastic excepted & I got out my cell & said here I will dial 911 for you lets see what the police have to say about this if your so set on having me arrested elts see who gets into shit. To end a long post they took my cash & told me to not come back unless I had plastic I told them well if I did choose to come back I would pay which ever way suites me & works best for me that they are there to serve my needs not the other way around. I did go back a few months later & got service done again & they took my money fine that time no questions asked & got good service as well. So they had a policy change most likely because maybe enough people told them to shove their no cash policy so they changed their ways. Who knows & who cares
 
From wikipedia "Socialism is a political philosophy that encompasses various theories of economic organization based on either public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources"

[citation][nom]Yoder54[/nom]This tactic is commonly used to fight the black market, and this was stated in the article. There was a time when US forces overseas used MPC and not green backs for money, and you had a ration control plate (plastic) that was used to track all purchases. It was as late as 1973. Why? To control the black market.Also, it really has nothing to do with socialism. Why is our society so bent on calling everything they do not agree with as being 'socialist?' In the 50's and 60's we used 'communism.' Seems like history does repeat itself.[/citation]

The reason they choose to call it socialism is Apple is trying to control the allocation of resources. I agree with it as an incorrect usage of terminology. Facism fits better.

From wikipedia "Fascists reject and resist autonomy of cultural or ethnic groups who are not considered part of the fascists' nation and who refuse to assimilate or are unable to be assimilated.[21] They consider attempts to create such autonomy as an affront and threat to the nation."

Apple is quite Facist, and anyone not conforming to their belief system should be destroyed. They want nothing more than to push their elitist ideas on everyone and attempts at freedom of choice should be quashed.


Does that satisfy your rant? Apple is not socialist or communist, they are facist. =) Have a wonderful day.
 
[citation][nom]Godfail[/nom]Yeah, a netbook would be GREAT on a music stand, right?[/citation]

It actually is. I'm a DJ, and till a few years ago I use to only spin vinyl. Nowadays I use a deck which simulates record spins using MP3s streamed from my Netbook (originally used a laptop) since vinyl is harder and harder to come by unless you live in a larger city. Fits on my stand nicely, of which there is no way an iPad could substitute for a computer with actual inputs and outputs.

She would get so much more use out of a netbook or laptop for music production, be it a PC or Macbook, than the incredibly limited iPad.

I think she should have consulted with real musicians before making this boneheaded purchase, IMO.
 
It's not like Apple would HAVE to have their customers use only plastic in order to track it. Ever hear of a driver's license? I'm sure they could just ask cash paying customers to see that and enter in all their information in the system to "track" whether or not their buying more than 2 iPads...
 
The thing Apple is not taking into account is that I can go to any bank or walgreens and have them load a Visa or Mastercard with as much cash as I want for a small fee. So I pay my bank 4 bucks to load 600 bucks onto the card, buy a iPad, sell it overseas for 800 bucks and turn around tomorrow and do it all over again and that is not illegal to do. Policies like that just hinder REAL customers, not people who are going to run a Black or Grey market.
 
[citation][nom]jchoefer[/nom]Sounds like a case of discrimination to me.If you don't have the income level or credit to get a credit card, you can't buy an iPad.[/citation]

Sorry this isn't discrimination. Pretty much anybody can get a DEBIT card, with the small amount of money it take to open an account. Then you can use it just like a credit card. Only difference, your spending real money.
 
So, Apple decides what books and magazines you can read, what music you can hear, what newspaper you can read, what AT&T connection you can have, what motherboard, printer and videocard you can buy, how you pay for it (for the explicit purpose of big-brother-watching you), what software you can buy, what to think.

And AAAAAll the things Apple choose for you, are more expensive, controlling, and lower quality.

Big Brother is watching you. Better behave.
 
[citation][nom]Yoder54[/nom]By controlling how many any one person can get prevents people from buying up the supply and then reselling them at inflated prices (basic economics.[/citation]

Hang on, WHY THE HELL does apple care? They are still making their profits and it matters NOT ONE BIT who ends up with their giant iPod they still made their money.
What controlling supply doe sin reality is let such immoral companies sell the same crap in foreign markets for WAY more than the sale price locally.
When the iPhoney came out in australia it was massively higher priced than the US release. Now if apple played fair and treated every market the same I could understand, but when they extort an additional 50% for an iPhoney just because its being sold in australia instead of the US well thats just evil and immoral.
 
So she's on fixed income, drawing money from public tax dollars, and abuses it to buy a far-end-of-the-scale luxury item? Sounds like she should be cut off and left to fend for herself then.
 
[citation][nom]Yoder54[/nom]Yup, saw it in full force while overseas in 1972. Apple stated that they were doing it to keep the machines off of the black market...what is so hard to understand about that? Obviously, demand far exceeds production. By controlling how many any one person can get prevents people from buying up the supply and then reselling them at inflated prices (basic economics.) My guess is that once the production is where it should be, then the 'no cash' policy will be dropped.[/citation]
I perfectly understand what Apple is trying to do, but their explanation is total BS. Buying an iPad from Apple and then turn around and selling it for profit is no an illegal act. That is basic economics also. That is why resell market for iPad can't and should not be called black market. And seeing something (in this case black market) does not means that you have understand it. Apple knows that their policy is crap and as soon the policy got exposed they went in to damage control. They gave the woman a free iPad in front of the TV cameras. And promised that no-cash policy is dropped. They deserve all the crap they got in the last couple of days. So please stop trying to explain and as result defend their policy.
[citation][nom]Yoder54[/nom]Not sure what 'belong' to you, but I do know that you are not making much sense. You would be surprised at how many American's do not fully understand the concept of capitalism and free markets. How do you think the insurance companies created their current monopoly? Because many American's do not understand the concept of the 'free market' and they blindly let large corporations walk over them and dictate to them how things should be.[/citation]
Nothing new for me here. What I can't accept is why Americans don't understand it in the first place.
 
Wow this is the most absurd thing I have ever heard of.
As a business owner, I would want to make it so that the most people possible will be able to buy my product, and also as many(much) of them(it) as they want.
Limiting the quantity and the way people buy what I'm selling will only hurt my profits.

On second thought, maybe they were so impressed with this wonder technology they have created and wanted to make sure that people didn't hoard them at launch and sell them on eBay for 2-5x the original price like what happened with the xBox 360 and PS3.
Oh Apple...
 
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