Apple Rejects Cold, Hard Cash at its Own Stores

[Guest]

There are no laws saying which forms of payment a store can or cant take for their goods. Except ones that are specifically illegal, like i couldnt trade you a child or an ipad, because trafficing children is illegal. Same with trading you a kilo of cocane, again because its illegal.

However, refusal to take cash for a debt owed, can i believe be a dismissal of said debt. Like if you owed me $1000, and came to me with $1000 in cash and i refuse it, it cancels the debt i believe.

But thats not the same thing as refusing to sell an item for cash.

 

[Godfail]

They did the same thing with the iPhone...as it is COMPLETELY legal.

Also, considering the iPad is now on sale in Europe, I'm wondering if this policy has changed - we do not know the date that this story happened.

 

[Guest]

How about just buying a cash Visa or Mastercard and using it? How does forcing customers to use plastic deter anything?

 

[boogalooelectric]

I have to say if I went to a store and they refused my cash I would raise so much hell they would probably have to call the cops on me.

On a side note Costco told my wife and I something similar recently, my wife and I keep separate accounts for our own reasons, the costco card is in her name and i paid annually by her employer, the last time and I mean last as we will never shop there again. They told us I could't pay cash (which I had in hand) on my wifes card, they said this because they saw her name on the card and when I handed over the cash they ID'd me and then told us this.

We talked to the manager and got Bill Lumburgh'd "Oh yeah sorry no, we cant do that, sorry yeah."

Keep in mind we have bought thousands of dollar's of stuff from them, refrigerator, TV's, groceries, DVD players, clothes, they screwed up bad in other words.

I told them I will sign a new membership at Sam's club "

 

[daship]

Guess its a good time to start selling Hackingtoshes, since when they sue they dont take cash, and I cant get a 10 million dollar credit line.

 

[Yoder54]

[citation][nom]SAL-e[/nom]Do you actually know what the 'Black market' really is? [/citation]

Yup, saw it in full force while overseas in 1972.

Apple stated that they were doing it to keep the machines off of the black market...what is so hard to understand about that? Obviously, demand far exceeds production. By controlling how many any one person can get prevents people from buying up the supply and then reselling them at inflated prices (basic economics.) My guess is that once the production is where it should be, then the 'no cash' policy will be dropped.

[citation][nom]SAL-e[/nom] I understand if socialist and communist not understanding the concept, but Americans not understanding this and accepting private or government control, it is belong me.[/citation]

Not sure what 'belong' to you, but I do know that you are not making much sense. You would be surprised at how many American's do not fully understand the concept of capitalism and free markets. How do you think the insurance companies created their current monopoly? Because many American's do not understand the concept of the 'free market' and they blindly let large corporations walk over them and dictate to them how things should be.

 

[Yoder54]

[citation][nom]boogalooelectric[/nom]I have to say if I went to a store and they refused my cash I would raise so much hell they would probably have to call the cops on me... I told them "so your going to piss us off for one new membership? I will sign a new membership at Sam's club dick head."[/citation]

You contradicted yourself...here you are going on how you would create so much 'hell' that they would have to call the cops. Then when they tell you they will not accept your cash you do nothing, but use some mild profanity.

 

[gmcboot]

I didn't read through every reply, but Apple is actually tracking who purchases Ipads, Ipods, Iphones and I everything else through their store by the credit card#. So if you buy 5 or 10 of them they can suspect you are selling them on the grey market. I don't know how they can truly know, but that is their idea behind this reasoning. I personally own nothing associated with Apple. However, this senior could go to Best Buy and buy one. I hope they don't have enough control to keep Best Buy from accepting cash.

 

[boogalooelectric]

@ Yoder - I realize that but I cant remember how to edit so I just let it ride. They actually did threaten to call the cops on me in that instance too but I just left.

 

[Guest]

the local best buy will sell it to her for cash..

 

[mpdugas]

all the more reason to reject Apple...they really do think they are "...all that..."

 

[imapc]

I can't believe all these people in the comments blaming Apple for being unfair to this lady. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DISCRIMINATION OR SOCIALISM. I worked at a retail store, and with any big release like the iPad, we have all sorts of Russian, Asian, Persian and African people come into buy these devices in bulk to go back to their native country and sell them for increased profit. The iPad's in particular have a notorious Asian re-seller following due to the extremely delayed Mid-July release of the iPad. If you should be angry about anything, be angry about not having a world-wide release. Hell, even the head honchos at Valve said that a lot of piracy would be cut if the whole world got their video games at the same time instead of releasing the same title in different countries at different times. This re-seller behavior hurts the company due to inability to sell services and solutions to customers, and even hurts American consumers who actually WANT an iPad and can no longer get them because some other low life took them to make a quick buck. It's almost stealing out of actual consumers pockets in my opinion.

 

[toxxel]

Quite illegal no matter how you put it, black market or not it's not the customers fault.

 

[mr_tuel]

1984 wasn't like 1984, but what about 2010?

 

[buddhist2k]

She saved up $600? Whats stopping her from going to best buy and buying a netbook or full size laptop for less that will do the same thing?

I saw a dualcore pentium w 3GB ram and 250HDD and DVDRW that was $499 there. plenty of power and speed to do whats she wanting. i dont get it iPad is nothing but an overpriced mac version of the netbook / or oversized itouch. there is no practical use for that thing. none that i can see anyway.

 

[segio526]

I like the idea of no cash, but not allowing gift cards is just absurd. Apple Genius is a misnomer (if not an oxymoron). I wouldn't trust them to count and be responsible for cash either.

She should legally be able to buy one of those Visa/MC/AmEx backed gift cards that most malls use. They work exactly like credit cards and for all intents and purposes they are just pre-paid credit cards.

 

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]zelannii[/nom]Credit card data is referred to as PCI (payment card industry) data. Your associated information is referred to as PII (personally Identifiable information). Not only is it legal to have this data, in most cases they MUST maintain your PII associated with your PCI for revenue and sales tax validation, and there are piles of laws covering explicitly how to store and protect that data. having your personal information is not illegal. having your personal information LEAKED is not even illegal, it's only illegal to store it without following federal and state guidelines and then to have a security breach resulting from that lapse in security. It;s not even illegal for a store to store your purchase history associated with your identity, and use it for various purposes, so long as they don't sell that data without disclaiming that they "might".[/citation]
Well thanks for the newsflash, you may or may not have noticed but it doesn't matter wether it's "legal" or not.
We, the consumer, don't like our personal information, our credit card numbers, our spending patterns or anything else being recorded.
Sure any large organisation likes to track purchase trends but this should be anonymous and retention of personal information is dangerous, immoral and open to widescale abuse from the more unsavoury elements in society.
If I pass my personal details, in conjunction with my credit card number to anyone, if I thought for one second that they would retain that information I would insist they accepted cash and my name is Mr Go-Fuckyourself.
Invasion
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Liberties
And for all the flag wavers out their i'm sure you can find a part of the Constitution to tie it round, not that Steve Jobs cares of course, since the only flag he waves is the red flag is communist bullshit.

Legal? Big whoop. There are thousands of things that are supposedly "legal" which should never have been so in a million years if it weren't for lobbyists and the credit card industry can shout pretty loud.

 

[boogalooelectric]

I agree with what has been said above, if I didn't already have hundreds of reasons to never buy Apple whit would do it for me.

And just because it is their right to refuse the business it does not make it right. Refusing to sell to a lady in a wheel chair? What kind does that?

Amazon is another company I will never do business with, why? Because they keep your card # on file even if you tell them not to.

I bought some stuff from them in 2001 like everyone else, thinking it was cool. Almost a year later and after telling them NOT TO KEEP MY CREDIT CARD, they not only kept it they mixed up our card # with some other person and charged their order to us, and it was over $100 too.

My wife being all over this researched it and knew the truth before calling them. She then called them over it and they did everything they could to deny it even blaming it on me. As soon as they issued us the credit my wife cancelled the credit card as there were no other charges on it. They had no leg to stand on but denied it as long as they could anyway.

NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH AMAZON.COM, they cannot be trusted.

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[Impulse Fire911]

a "teen" girl wants to buy an ipad.
hey look its 99% of their target market!

 

[Guest]

Uh Bank Accounts and Visa Check Cards are free people. Walk to your nearest Chase bank, go inside, they will give you one; especially if you have enough expendable cash for Apple products!

If you are only using cash its probably because your either a nut, or are doing something illegal. Poor drug dealers and tax evaders!

 

[joytech22]

"hmm yes i'd like to purchase a coffee"
"GTHO money's no good here!"

 

[AsianJetlag]

I feel sorry for the lady who tried to pay $600 for a computing device with the processing power of a Pentium 4 PC, ~$150.

But at least she'll be able to get on youtube. Oh wait, quite a few videos aren't compatible with the ipad/itouch on youtube, because there is no flash support.

 

[demonhorde665]

well this is total BS , WTF bassiccally apple is saying you have to actually pay 600 dollars + what ever interest yoru credit card charges, that is f-ing Bs and in my opnion should be illegal , sure teh alw doesn't say that but i think the law should this is some total cr-p

 

[demonhorde665]

[citation][nom]chunkymonster[/nom]Welcome to the Socialist State of Apple! All hail the mighty iPad!This has to be one of the most ...... things I have ever heard of!Just another reason to boycott Apple.[/citation]


you sir are a dummy, socialism is based on the goverment running buisnesses, (namely key insitutions such as medical and utilities ) the law saying that companies have a right to deny money is actually the furthest thing from socalism , now you may go feel totally embaressed

 

[maestintaolius]

So cash isn't Apple compatible either?