Apple Rejects Cold, Hard Cash at its Own Stores

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[citation][nom]figgus[/nom]So, what good is an iPad without a 3g contract or at least WiFi from an ISP? How would she pay for those?[/citation]Uh, I don't know, maybe the ISP could send a paper bill to her home every month? Companies still do that, ya know...
 

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Most of you seem unable to read and comprehend properly. There is no legal requirement for Apple to accept cash. Why, if so many of you hate Apple, do you click on Apple related links, misunderstand the news item and still make fatuous comments?
 

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[citation][nom]donovands[/nom]It's to track the sale. If you use a credit card Apple will store that info, and cross check to see if you've bought multiple iPads, which is against their policy.[/citation]

You're right on that.

But if apple is not taking in consideration some other countries, how are they supposed to acquire any product?

ipads are sold here in Mexico at a premium price of 12,000 pesos (930 USD) for the 32gb 3G version, and that because of it isn't yet on mexican apple stores.

[citation][nom]donovands[/nom]For some reason they feel morally obligated to prevent people from buying large numbers of iPads and selling them in countries where iPads are not available at a profit.[/citation]

maybe they want to be the only ones price-raping people... who knows?
 

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[citation][nom]chunkymonster[/nom]Welcome to the Socialist State of Apple! All hail the mighty iPad!This has to be one of the most ...... things I have ever heard of!Just another reason to boycott Apple.[/citation]

This tactic is commonly used to fight the black market, and this was stated in the article. There was a time when US forces overseas used MPC and not green backs for money, and you had a ration control plate (plastic) that was used to track all purchases. It was as late as 1973. Why? To control the black market.

Also, it really has nothing to do with socialism. Why is our society so bent on calling everything they do not agree with as being 'socialist?' In the 50's and 60's we used 'communism.' Seems like history does repeat itself.
 

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[citation][nom]matt314[/nom]Seems like every piece of news about apple just makes me hate them more![/citation]
They are also cruel to children, animals and old people, racist, sexist and anti-semetic.

Oddly enough they are not homophobic though, as Apple is just gay
 

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[citation][nom]chunkymonster[/nom]Welcome to the Socialist State of Apple![/citation]
What do the two things have to do with each other? (Other than ignorance from readers like this one?)
 

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I had an Ipod stolen that I had purchased from the apple store. It was a 4g video. I had it stolen two days after I bought it. I also had my golf clubs stolen at the same time. Here is the thing. I called apple and explained my situation. I asked them if they could help me track it, because when it is hooked up to itunes it can read the serial number. They saw that I purchased it through their online store days earlier. They refused. I offered to send them a copy of the police report and everything. I also gave them the number of the officer that came to investigate. They tried to sell me a new ipod instead.
That is the day I quit buying apple.

Here is an article about how tomshardware started it is an interesting read, and just thought I would share it with you even though its off topic. http://hubpages.com/hub/How-Toms-Hardware-Guide-pwnd-the-industry-then-lost-it
 

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I'm almost 100% sure that in Europe this is illegal. Cold hard cash is the minimum common denominator, it is the only means of payment that MUST be accepted.

Anything else is discriminatory. You must have a bank account to have a check book or a debit or credit card. Is there anything in the United States Constitution stating that it is an obligation for people to open a bank account ? No ? Then I guess the chances of winning this in court are very high.

The only reason a store can refuse it is if it's unreasonable, like for example, someone wanting to pay a € 10 bill with a € 500 note (the store may not have change or be left without any).
 

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[citation][nom]chunkymonster[/nom]Uh, I don't know, maybe the ISP could send a paper bill to her home every month? Companies still do that, ya know...[/citation]

If she SLOWLY saved $600, where would she come up with the cash to pay the paper bill?

It seems like she wanted to buy this but never really thought about being able to use it.
 

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I would think money would be the primary way to pay a store for something. Next their gonna tell people you need to buy from them via online, wait a few weeks for it to come to you, and then call back to request missing parts such as a charger and usb cord.
 

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The real question is not what federal law is but what state law is. The Treasury specifically states on the web that businesses can be required to accept cash by states. Even if there is only a state law requiring a minimum be accepted as change (i.e. a retailer must accept up to $5 in change) then the retailer must accept cash. Apple most likely violates the law with this policy in more than one state.


--- I'm not a lawyer, your mileage may vary.
 

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I've actually encountered two other businesses that wouldn't except cash as my payment. I thought it was complete BS, but in the end it was their loss not mine.

As for buying an iPad, he should just go to Best Buy.
 

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First off, let's straighten out the "good for all debts public and private" asopect of cold hard cash - one needs to focus on the "debt" part of that statement. You are not walking into an Apple store with a "debt" to pay...rather to enter into a contract to purchase an item they are selling...and if you don't like the Terms of Sale (debit/credit only) - don't enter into the agreement and do not buy the iPad.
OK, so that does away with the socialist(?), illegal nonsense. It's not illegal to set Terms of Sale. Now, had you "owed" ATT money on your 3G account, they, on the other hand, would be compelled to accept cash as that is paying a debt.
BUT, and as Jeremy Clarkson would say, "it's a great, big, full-bodied BUTT", it is beyond inane to not accept cash. Foolish. Arrogant. Elitist. STUPID.
Not a bright move, Apple.
 

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I think you guys are making too much of this.

a- a company can set it's own policies (and in this case they did).
b- this lady saved $600 (which she considers a lot of money) just to drop it to Apple? Sounds like they're doing her a favor by not accepting it.
 

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That is totally messed up. I think they just want to keep your credit card number so they can sell you more of there products.
 

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Freedom is what we all want but we don't live in a perfect world where freedom is the answer to everything just because of the same old reason: "abuse". Trying to come with a way to control or reduce the abuse is also a way to restrict the freedom from legal buyers. Where are we with this constant fight between abusers and "legal" practices or procedures or burocracy if you prefer? Well, we need unique keys, we need unique ID numbers and legal documents, we need certificates, titles, etc. What is all this? Validation. And we live with that everyday so don't be naive.

I don't have a problem with the policy in general as I understand what Apple is trying to do with it but I think Apple should also have other ways to validate its buyers. But I am not a legal consultant. Anyway, this restriction could not be considered as a way of discrimination in the same way when police ask you for an ID and you provide a document. If you don't have one, are you going to accuse the police with discrimination?

In the future, maybe a very distant one, we should live in a society with better ways to distinguish true legal and human rights from abuse but don't be so "surprised" with today's methods.
 

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Having worked a bit in retail, I think think of a couple of good reasons not to accept cash. 1. Most apple store workers are pretty young. 2. You don't have to count anything at the end of store closing, it's all done by the machine.

With that said, I still think it's bad business practice for a retail store to not accept cash. It limits you and your customers.
 

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In my country, it is ILLEGAL for businesses to not accept cash.

In MY country it's illegal as well. I live in the U.S.A. and our currency says, "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE." I'm a fan (but not a fanboy) of Apple, but I think the Feds wouldn't care much for this tactic. I'm sure there's lots of other ways to ensure that there's not multiple sales. (Think: the Kindle fiasco a few months back....)
 

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[citation][nom]waylander[/nom]With that said, I still think it's bad business practice for a retail store to not accept cash. It limits you and your customers.[/citation]

Bravo. Well said.
 
It's true that Apple doesn't have to accept legal tender, since your buying it immediately and not on layaway or anything, but it's still the equivalent of telling this lady that her money isn't good enough to get an iPad. Messed up.
 
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