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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:46:09 -0700, domanova
<domanova@domanova.invalid> wrote:

>
>I say nothing about the intelligence of police officers. Nor do I make
>any assertions about their personality traits. I do claim that the
>educational requirements for entry are demonstrably low.

Notice numbnuts changes the goal post when refuted?
He/she/it made the broad claim that they are uneducated idiots
originally.

Figures...snicker

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
 
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:46:09 -0700, domanova
<domanova@domanova.invalid> wrote:

>
>As for the social class origins of police officers,


oh oh...social class is now mentioned (twice) seems like we have just
another ignorant elitist in our midst.

But we did know that after reading its posts to date.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
 
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On 2004-09-02 21:42:38 -0400, macusr023@yahoo.com (Mean Mr Mustard) said:

> I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
> Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
> service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
> anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
> otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
> notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
> China.
>
> Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
> inorder to save a few bucks.

Good luck finding a laptop or any computer wholly made in the US. If
and when you find one, let us know. I am sure you will find parts
made in the US and final assembly may be done hear. I havent' seen a
hard drive manufacutred in the US in 7 or 8 years for example.

Jim
 
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In article <michelle-84D15B.00361708092004@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle
Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> Yes, I know how you misuse the word. Oh, there's more to education than
> a sheepskin on one hand and "school of hard knocks" on the other.

Oh, no. We have arrived at the "my definition is better than your
definition" stage.
 
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In article <michelle-84D15B.00361708092004@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle
Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > Do you seriously think the typical enlisted soldier has at least a
> > BA?
>
> No, nor did I say they did. Learn to read for comprehension, oh
> Educated One.

You argued against a valid generalization by citing a few exceptions.
You grant the validity of the generalization, yet you are unwilling to
let the matter drop. You're like a dog with a bone that just won't let
go. Using the term "educated" in the usual meaning (amount of
schooling, degrees earned), enlisted personnel are poorly educated
people. Using your version of "educated" we cannot say anyone is
uneducated because we all learn from day-to-day experience (e.g., when
not to place one's hand on the range burner, which dogs in the
neighborhood to give a wide berth). Formal education from a real
school offers a disciplined study of sufficient breadth and depth to
give a person an effective bullshit shield.
 
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In article <michelle-84D15B.00361708092004@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle
Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > How is it "eliitist" to point out a simple correlation? I made an
> > (accurate) observation about the class background and class
> > circumstances of police officers.
>
> You did more than make a correlation; see above.

There you are wrong. No amount of seeing above will change that.
 
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In article <michelle-84D15B.00361708092004@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle
Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > So, anyway, what do you think? Are Apple Notebooks made in the USA?
> > I say Taiwan.
>
> I say it doesn't matter as regards the quality of the product.

Ugh. For someone so fond of reading between the lines, you should have
figured out that that wasn't a serious question.
 
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:01:37 -0700, domanova
<domanova@domanova.invalid> wrote:

>You may rest assured that I have a lifetime of close, personal
>experience with the working class. I know them very well. And while I
>deeply sympathize with their lot, I am also acutely aware of their
>limitations.

Hrumph Hrumph!! Tut tut old boy..One shouldnt be quite so hard on the
lower classes. After all, who would we hire to polish our motor cars
and mow our lawns. Its after all not their fault that they are
inferior by blood and breeding and that their lot in life is not as
high as ours. Indeed. Afterall..its the Natural Order of things.
Hrumph!

I think that I shall start calling you the Neo Col. Blimp.

Indeed, what?

Gunner Asch

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
 
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:20:48 -0700, domanova
<domanova@domanova.invalid> wrote:

>In article <05mdnZLcepRrDqPcRVn-pA@gbronline.com>, Wes Groleau
><groleau+news@freeshell.org> wrote:
>
>> Real cute. Respond to a racist by outdoing him in stereotyping.
>
>And you're going to tell me I was far off the mark? The guy who frets
>that his Mac might have been assembled by a "great person" is, lets see,
>
>black?
>well educated?
>a member of the professional middle class?
>fundamentally pleased with his life?
>immune to jingoistic appeals?
>voting for Kerry/Edwards in November?
>
>I think my profile was far more believable. There is a difference
>between a "type" and a "stereotype." The former is necessary to all
>rational thinking. All concepts are "types" in this sense. The latter
>is simply a "type" that does not change in the face of contrary
>evidence. Unless you can show that our race relations expert fails to
>fit my profile in some significant way, your silly hand wringing about
>"stereotypes" is misplaced.


Snicker..the only time Liberals have any use for minorities is when
they need a maid. And preferably one compliant, nubile and with no
papers.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
 
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Entity Admiral Crunch spoke thus:

> Let me get this straight.
>
> GWBush is responsible for what his GRANDFATHER did.
>
> LOL...now I've heard everything.
Laugh all you want.
As we speak the Republicans are running up the biggest national debt ever
and our children will be responsible for repaying it. We now pay about $180
BILLION a year ON THE INTEREST for debt incurred by RONALD REAGAN !!

So you see, the debts of the fathers are upon the children to repay, and
likewise the sins of the fathers are inherited by the children.

It goes both ways, even though the rich and powerful wish it didn't.

-- Gnarlie

"Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across
this country"
George Bush, in a speech attacking John Edwards
 
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 00:38:34 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

>In article <070920042320328100%timcmay@removethis.got.net>,
> Tim May <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote:
>
>> It is time we recognize the great person, the beloved patriot, the layabout, the
>> addict, the skank, the gutter sweepings, for what he or she is:
>> trash.
>
>Actually, I recognize you for what you are: garbage. Putrid, stinking,
>disease ridden garbage.

Other than your curious infatuation with that scumball Kerry, I could
get to like you.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
 
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In article <97itj0pcv8abhpar694d61n67lqj151hfq@4ax.com>,
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:

> >> It is time we recognize the great person, the beloved patriot, the layabout, the
> >> addict, the skank, the gutter sweepings, for what he or she is:
> >> trash.
> >
> >Actually, I recognize you for what you are: garbage. Putrid,
> >stinking, disease ridden garbage.
>
> Other than your curious infatuation with that scumball Kerry, I could
> get to like you.

Oh, I don't have an infatuation for Kerry. It's that Kerry is the only
chance to defeat Bush. No matter how bad Kerry might or might not be,
Bush is much, much, worse.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Vote for John Kerry.
 
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In article <080920040641228046%domanova@domanova.invalid>,
domanova <domanova@domanova.invalid> wrote:

> > > So, anyway, what do you think? Are Apple Notebooks made in the
> > > USA? I say Taiwan.
> >
> > I say it doesn't matter as regards the quality of the product.
>
> Ugh. For someone so fond of reading between the lines, you should
> have figured out that that wasn't a serious question.

Oh, I figured that out--didn't take much figuring to do it, for that
matter. I chose to answer it as if it were a serious question, though.

And another thing: I don't read between the lines. I do read for
context and connotation, though.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Vote for John Kerry.
 
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In article <080920040639120247%domanova@domanova.invalid>,
domanova <domanova@domanova.invalid> wrote:

> Using the term "educated" in the usual meaning (amount of schooling,
> degrees earned), enlisted personnel are poorly educated people.

"Poorly educated" and "uneducated" aren't the same thing. Further, your
implication that a high-school diploma equates to poorly educated is
questionable at best.

> Using your version of "educated" we cannot say anyone is uneducated
> because we all learn from day-to-day experience (e.g., when not to
> place one's hand on the range burner, which dogs in the neighborhood
> to give a wide berth).

That's not my version of "educated." That's your elitist, binary
outlook, interpretation. Apparently, to you either one is formally
educated or one learns solely from the school of hard knocks.

> Formal education from a real school offers a disciplined study of
> sufficient breadth and depth to give a person an effective bullshit
> shield.

There are some of us who have effective bullshit shields without needing
that formality. You, though, haven't demonstrated that you have a
bullshit shield, but rather a bullshit emitter.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Vote for John Kerry.
 
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In article <080920040631252252%domanova@domanova.invalid>,
domanova <domanova@domanova.invalid> wrote:

> > Yes, I know how you misuse the word. Oh, there's more to education
> > than a sheepskin on one hand and "school of hard knocks" on the
> > other.
>
> Oh, no. We have arrived at the "my definition is better than your
> definition" stage.

You arrived there quite a few messages ago.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Vote for John Kerry.
 
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 06:31:25 -0700, domanova
<domanova@domanova.invalid> wrote:

>In article <michelle-84D15B.00361708092004@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle
>Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I know how you misuse the word. Oh, there's more to education than
>> a sheepskin on one hand and "school of hard knocks" on the other.
>
>Oh, no. We have arrived at the "my definition is better than your
>definition" stage.

No..we have arrived at the point where you are now looking like an
idiot educated beyond your abilities.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
 
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In article <chnqbc$gau$2@news.ucar.edu>,
pack@eos.ucar.edu (Daniel Packman) wrote:

> >Im quite sure our congress critters will do away with the PA, so Im
> >not to worried about four more of the shrub,
>
> The Patriot Act? The congress needs to have a 2/3 majority to
> overcome the executive. This is rarely achieved.

The Patriot Act is a law; all it takes is a majority vote to repeal it
if the president signs the repeal bill. If he vetoes it, then it takes
a 2/3 majority to overturn the veto.

But the Patriot Act does have a sunset provision; it will eventually
expire--then it would take a majority vote by congress and a
presidential signature to renew or extend it. If congress fails to pass
an extension or renewal bill, that's it--it expires.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Vote for John Kerry.
 
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In article <cg7vj054c3ok7h7bgpb9qv9um8djqdgrg3@4ax.com>,
North <northmt@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >Specifics?
>
> Gun control
> Fuel milage reqirements (I like my SUV)

You can have both.

> Taxes
> His voting record proves he caters to the ultra left, the socialist
> wing of the democrat party.
> Just look at his voting record, look at the bullshit freedom
> restricting laws that he's co-sponcered.

Look at Bush's record, and the freedom restricting laws he's proposed
and signed--and those he's still pushing. Look at the largest deficit
in US history that he's caused.

Just like his daddy, he will have to increase taxes because of the
fiscal mess he's gotten us into.

He caters to the ultra right and the religious nut case wings of the GOP.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Vote for John Kerry.
 
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In article <michelle-F96B25.08531808092004@news.west.cox.net>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <97itj0pcv8abhpar694d61n67lqj151hfq@4ax.com>,
> Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>
> > >> It is time we recognize the great person, the beloved patriot, the layabout, the
> > >> addict, the skank, the gutter sweepings, for what he or she is:
> > >> trash.
> > >
> > >Actually, I recognize you for what you are: garbage. Putrid,
> > >stinking, disease ridden garbage.
> >
> > Other than your curious infatuation with that scumball Kerry, I could
> > get to like you.
>
> Oh, I don't have an infatuation for Kerry. It's that Kerry is the only
> chance to defeat Bush. No matter how bad Kerry might or might not be,
> Bush is much, much, worse.

Heh....you can't buy that kind of support.

In fact, that kind of support tends to not vote.
 
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In article <michelle-0FD90C.18035408092004@news.west.cox.net>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> Just like his daddy, he will have to increase taxes because of the
> fiscal mess he's gotten us into.

You don't think a government can tax its way out of a deficit, so you?

Seriously?
 
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In article <michelle-0FD90C.18035408092004@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle
Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <cg7vj054c3ok7h7bgpb9qv9um8djqdgrg3@4ax.com>,
> North <northmt@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >Specifics?
> >
> > Gun control
> > Fuel milage reqirements (I like my SUV)
>
> You can have both.

Neither gun control nor "fuel mileage requirements" are valid functions
of the U.S. government. Gun control is obviously forbidden the Second
Amendment, though the stooges in government deny this.

Fuel mileage laws are no more a function of government than "calorie
requirements in a hamburger" or "math content in a book" is a function
of government to rule on.

(Mileage laws are even't covered by the much-abused Commerce Clause of
the Constitution, as that said only the Feds may regulate _interstate_
commerce, that is, tariffs and duties and suchlike.)

All politicians who don't understand these points ought to be killed.
Al Qaida needs to nuke the den of vipers that is Washington, Allah
Willing.


--Tim May
 
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In article <070920041438254481%thomasareed@dont.spam.me>,
Thomas Reed <thomasareed@dont.spam.me> wrote:

> In article <marc.heusser-70B49B.12172104092004@individual.net>, Marc
> Heusser <marc.heusser@CHEERSheusser.comMERCIALSPAMMERS.invalid> wrote:
....
> > Do you get away with that in the US?
> > Your language and thinking could get you into trouble over here.
>
> Where do you live, exactly? Although I don't intend to defend a racist
> like Tim, I'd be rather unsettled to live in a country where a poor
> choice of words could put me on the wrong side of the law. If that's
> what you meant. Americans place very high value on our free speech,
> even if we don't always use it wisely.

Switzerland. We tend to value our freedom too and have done so for the
last few centuries.
Bad words do not get you into trouble if uttered in a private room.
But using racist words in public does indeed get you into trouble - and
rightfully so IMHO. Bad memories in Europe I guess ...
Also: Our language shapes our thinking, and our thinking tends to shape
our behaviour.

Marc

--
Marc Heusser
(remove the obvious: CHEERS and MERICAL...until end to reply via email)
 
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In article <marc.heusser-509E88.21351208092004@individual.net>,
Marc Heusser <marc.heusser@CHEERSheusser.comMERCIALSPAMMERS.invalid> wrote:
>In article <070920041438254481%thomasareed@dont.spam.me>,
> Thomas Reed <thomasareed@dont.spam.me> wrote:
>
>> In article <marc.heusser-70B49B.12172104092004@individual.net>, Marc
>> Heusser <marc.heusser@CHEERSheusser.comMERCIALSPAMMERS.invalid> wrote:
>...
>> > Do you get away with that in the US?
>> > Your language and thinking could get you into trouble over here.
>>
>> Where do you live, exactly? Although I don't intend to defend a racist
>> like Tim, I'd be rather unsettled to live in a country where a poor
>> choice of words could put me on the wrong side of the law. If that's
>> what you meant. Americans place very high value on our free speech,
>> even if we don't always use it wisely.
>
>Switzerland. We tend to value our freedom too and have done so for the
>last few centuries.

As long as the exercise thereof doesn't upset anyone, apparently.
 
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Gnarlodious.com coughed up:
> Entity Admiral Crunch spoke thus:
>
>> Let me get this straight.
>>
>> GWBush is responsible for what his GRANDFATHER did.
>>
>> LOL...now I've heard everything.
> Laugh all you want.
> As we speak the Republicans are running up the biggest national debt
> ever and our children will be responsible for repaying it. We now pay
> about $180 BILLION a year ON THE INTEREST for debt incurred by RONALD
> REAGAN !!


How can your statement be true? We recently had a surplus. That means not
just no deficit, but no /debt/ as well. Reagan was /before/ the surplus.

Whether or not a surplus is particularly a good thing, let's keep the
argument non-simplistic, but please tell me how we have such interest
incurred by Ronald Regan.


....[rip]...


--
"His name was Robert Paulson. His name was Robert Paulson. His name was
Robert Paulson..."
 
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In article <mwL%c.1939$%N6.1864@trndny01>, Thomas G. Marshall
<tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Gnarlodious.com coughed up:
> > Entity Admiral Crunch spoke thus:
> >
> >> Let me get this straight.
> >>
> >> GWBush is responsible for what his GRANDFATHER did.
> >>
> >> LOL...now I've heard everything.
> > Laugh all you want.
> > As we speak the Republicans are running up the biggest national debt
> > ever and our children will be responsible for repaying it. We now pay
> > about $180 BILLION a year ON THE INTEREST for debt incurred by RONALD
> > REAGAN !!
>
>
> How can your statement be true? We recently had a surplus. That means not
> just no deficit, but no /debt/ as well. Reagan was /before/ the surplus.

Your understanding of economics is, to say the least, flawed.

A surplus in some particular year is not a situation of "no debt" for
the U.S. The national debt has been rising dramatically for several
decades.

(And even in the "budget surplus" few years, this was illusory. The
Socialist Security portion alone continued to drag the overall
situation into a real deficit, though the paper figure was ostensibly
showing a surplus.)

--Tim May
 
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