Are "compatible" cartridges safe to use?

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Jane wrote:

> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>>Jane wrote:
>>
>>>I have a Canon i560. It's a cheap but very nice little printer.
>>>Does a really nice job and I don't want to ruin it. I've been looking
>>>for replacement color cartridges and most of them are advertised as
>>>either "compatible" or "compatible refills". They are quite
inexpensive.
>>>
>>>Are these OK to use?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>
>>Yup, read Burt's informative post. Alotofthings is probably the
>>highest rated dealer you'll find for quality inks. They have a
>>positive feedback rating of over 99.9% from over 7,200 satisfied
>>users. Use the cartridges Burt suggested (Arrow) and you shouldn't
>>go wrong.
>
>
> Where did you find their feedback record? They have what I want and
> the price is very good.
>
> Thanks for the helpful post.
>
> Jane
>

From eBay, where they do most of their business. Here's the link to
Alotofthing's feedback page that you requested:

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=support*alotofthings

You'll note that there are over 8,500 satisfied users. Your risk of
clogging using Alotofthings ink is probably the same as with Canon's own
brand. There are cheaper inks. But stick with the recommended names.
These have proven to be good. It doesn't take a genius to figure out
that the money you're saving by using just 2 sets of compatible
cartridges will pay for your next printer.

For an admitted cheapskate, the poster Measekite strangely prefers to
buy Canon inks that cost 60% of the price of a new printer. I don't use
Canon inks. My estimated cost for ink is between 2% and 7% of a new
iP5000, depending on whether I refill them myself or use prefilled. By
using compatibles/refills I easily run two Canon printers (the other's
a relative of yours, the i860). And they can both be operated at the
same time, printing two different photos or what have you.

-Taliesyn

 

[frank]

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Taliesyn wrote:
> Jane wrote:
>
>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>
>>> Jane wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a Canon i560. It's a cheap but very nice little printer.
>>>> Does a really nice job and I don't want to ruin it. I've been looking
>
> >>>for replacement color cartridges and most of them are advertised as
> >>>either "compatible" or "compatible refills". They are quite
> inexpensive.
>
>>>>
>>>> Are these OK to use?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yup, read Burt's informative post. Alotofthings is probably the
>>> highest rated dealer you'll find for quality inks. They have a
>>> positive feedback rating of over 99.9% from over 7,200 satisfied
>
> >>users. Use the cartridges Burt suggested (Arrow) and you shouldn't
> >>go wrong.
>
>>
>>
>> Where did you find their feedback record? They have what I want and
>> the price is very good.
>>
>> Thanks for the helpful post.
>>
>> Jane
>>
>
> From eBay, where they do most of their business. Here's the link to
> Alotofthing's feedback page that you requested:
>
> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=support*alotofthings
>
>
> You'll note that there are over 8,500 satisfied users. Your risk of
> clogging using Alotofthings ink is probably the same as with Canon's own
> brand. There are cheaper inks. But stick with the recommended names.
> These have proven to be good. It doesn't take a genius to figure out
> that the money you're saving by using just 2 sets of compatible
> cartridges will pay for your next printer.
>
> For an admitted cheapskate, the poster Measekite strangely prefers to
> buy Canon inks that cost 60% of the price of a new printer. I don't use
> Canon inks. My estimated cost for ink is between 2% and 7% of a new
> iP5000, depending on whether I refill them myself or use prefilled. By
> using compatibles/refills I easily run two Canon printers (the other's
> a relative of yours, the i860). And they can both be operated at the
> same time, printing two different photos or what have you.
>
> -Taliesyn
I've used two different 3rd party carts in my Canon i9900 and have never
had any problems. I also have used 3rd carts in my Epson's and my HP's
for over ten years...no problems.
Don't pay any attention to that immature idiot poster measekite. He has
no real world experience and has only owned 1 or 2 printers in his short
undeveloped life. He thinks that 3rd ink suppliers want to sell you one
order of bad ink and then move on. He's obviously new to this game and
it shows.
Frank

 

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measekite wrote:
> Arthur Entlich wrote:
>
> > Who makes the inks isn't the issue. The ink is either good or it
isn't.
>
>
> That statement is not really true. When you know who manufacturers
ink
> and that ink is sold under the mfg name through a variety of channels

> then it is not as difficult to ascertain the quality and consistency
of
> the product.

Yes, knowing the maker only makes evaluation of many vendors
possibly easier, but looking at the subject line, it really
isn't the issue.

I use cheap 3rd party ink for our Canon printer that's used for
things where we don't care how accurate the colors are nor how
long the prints will last. Our short attention span printer.

In our i9900 that's really only used for photographs where I want
known longevity of the prints (use only Canon's Photo Pro paper)
and accurate colors (using associated ICC files w/photoshop) I use
Canon's own ink exclusively.

The short attention span printer uses by far more ink.

Mike

P.S. -Some inks tried for the short attention span printer, even though
from seemingly quasi- "name" brands, were absolute trash. One
black
ink spattered ink like crazy (and wasn't really *BLACK*). Went a
*little* less cheap and stuff used now works fine (but for how
long
before fading I haven't a clue, nor do print colors look like it
does
on screen like it does for the other printer).

 

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Frank wrote:

> measekite wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Earnest wrote:
>>
>>> measekite <measekite@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> measekite wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great, the hawkers are coming out of the woodwork. Spam d Spam
>>>>>> Dam =-O
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well you're here spamming too by hawking Canon all the time.
>>>>> What's the difference?
>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have no interestin Canon. Why are U a Shmuck?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anybody got the name of a good laxative? We need to lose this SH**.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The name of a good laxative is FRANK. He is a suppository.
>
>
> I've been shitting only measekite recently. Nasty stuff it is.
> Frank


I do not think you have been Franking.

 

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Arthur Entlich wrote:

> Who makes the inks isn't the issue. The ink is either good or it isn't.


That statement is not really true. When you know who manufacturers ink
and that ink is sold under the mfg name through a variety of channels
then it is not as difficult to ascertain the quality and consistency of
the product. And it there have been few or no complaints you have a
competitive envrionment to purchase the same thing at better prices.

>
> In general, find a reputable ink vendor (not necessarily a
> manufacturer) and you will probably do fine. These vendors are
> interested in repeat sales, and any that has been around for years
> likely is quite careful with the inks they sell. To be even safer,
> ask around for people who regularly buy 3rd party inks and can direct
> you to a reputable vendor.
>
> measekite's advice tends to be based upon zealousness, but little
> personal experience and no professional experience. He's an
> evangelist for certain things, and he targets others without any or
> with minimal knowledge base.
>
> It's value tends to be tenuous.
>
> Art
>
> measekite wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Burt wrote:
>>
>>> This response is directed to Jane --- go to the links I mentioned,
>>> and also search out the posts from the two people I mentioned on
>>> this NG who can speak from their own experience about the products
>>> they have used. Measekite is on a tear about the small ink vendors,
>>> but he has not done business with any of them and can only give you
>>> his untested opinion.
>>> "Don't use third party inks" is his mantra. There are people who
>>> are successfully using third party inks, and there are some who have
>>> used inks that have not been satisfactory or have damaged their
>>> printers. Read the info I directed you to and decide for yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That is good advice. There are 3 people who use aftermarket ink that
>> continually post in this forum who claim to not have problems. Spend
>> a couple of weeks reading about all of the others. You will find
>> that over 90% use some kind of 3rd party ink that they purchase from
>> the hawkers. I have even asked some of the hawkers who the mfg is.
>> The standard answer is that they have to protect themselves but it is
>> compatible. Then you read about the problems here.
>>
>>> "measekite" <measekite@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ETY8e.489$zX7.455@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>>

 

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measekite wrote:
>
>
> Arthur Entlich wrote:
>
>> Who makes the inks isn't the issue. The ink is either good or it isn't.
>
>
>
> That statement is not really true.

You still don't get it so forget it.
Frank

 

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alotofthings is really the unprofessional alotofcrap. Judge them by
their website (that is their office) and the way they do business in
writing. Anyway, there are other sources for Formulabs ink by
Sensinet. It seems like this manufacturer of after market ink is one of
the very few real formulators that can be identified and appears to have
had acceptable results by some people in this NG.

But if you are not a heavy printer why take any chance clogging your
print head? What are you really going to save?

I too look at many of the reseller ratings that I see on pricegrabber
and similar sites. But you do not really know who entered the ratings
or how many times a reseller posted multiple ratings from and about himself.

I just prefer not to do business with Mickey Mouse organizations; except
Disney ;-)

Jane wrote:

>Taliesyn wrote:
>
>
>>Jane wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I have a Canon i560. It's a cheap but very nice little printer.
>>>
>>>
>Does
>
>
>>>a really nice job and I don't want to ruin it.
>>>
>>>I've been looking for replacement color cartridges and most of them
>>>
>>>
>are
>
>
>>>advertised as either "compatible" or "compatible refills". They
>>>
>>>
>are
>
>
>>>quite inexpensive.
>>>
>>>Are these OK to use?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Yup, read Burt's informative post. Alotofthings is probably the
>>highest rated dealer you'll find for quality inks. They have a
>>
>>
>positive
>
>
>>feedback rating of over 99.9% from over 7,200 satisfied users. Use
>>
>>
>the
>
>
>>cartridges Burt suggested (Arrow) and you shouldn't go wrong.
>>
>>
>
>Where did you find their feedback record? They have what I want and
>the price is very good.
>
>Thanks for the helpful post.
>
>Jane
>
>
>
>>I use compatibles and bulk ink in my Canon iP5000, though not from
>>Alotofthings as they won't export internationally. But they would be
>>my first choice for inks as they are most trusted name. My iP5000 has
>>the smallest nozzles of all printers made. So if there was any danger
>>
>>
>of
>
>
>>my compatibles or bulk ink clogging the printhead then I have the
>>perfect printer to test them with. I have nothing to report other
>>
>>
>than
>
>
>>I'm getting perfect nozzle checks and pictures. Whereas Measekite
>>is terrified of trying compatibles, I have zero fear because I've
>>long been successfully using compatibles and or bulk ink for use in
>>
>>
>HP,
>
>
>>Canon, Epson and Lexmark printers. I've done them all.
>>
>>-Taliesyn
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

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Taliesyn wrote:
> Jane wrote:
>
> > Taliesyn wrote:
> >
> >>Jane wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have a Canon i560. It's a cheap but very nice little printer.
> >>>Does a really nice job and I don't want to ruin it. I've been
looking
> >>>for replacement color cartridges and most of them are advertised
as
> >>>either "compatible" or "compatible refills". They are quite
> inexpensive.
> >>>
> >>>Are these OK to use?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks
> >>>
> >>
> >>Yup, read Burt's informative post. Alotofthings is probably the
> >>highest rated dealer you'll find for quality inks. They have a
> >>positive feedback rating of over 99.9% from over 7,200 satisfied
> >>users. Use the cartridges Burt suggested (Arrow) and you shouldn't
> >>go wrong.
> >
> >
> > Where did you find their feedback record? They have what I want
and
> > the price is very good.
> >
> > Thanks for the helpful post.
> >
> > Jane
> >
>
> From eBay, where they do most of their business. Here's the link to
> Alotofthing's feedback page that you requested:
>
>
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=support*alotofthings
>
> You'll note that there are over 8,500 satisfied users. Your risk of
> clogging using Alotofthings ink is probably the same as with Canon's
own
> brand. There are cheaper inks. But stick with the recommended names.
> These have proven to be good. It doesn't take a genius to figure out
> that the money you're saving by using just 2 sets of compatible
> cartridges will pay for your next printer.
>
> For an admitted cheapskate, the poster Measekite strangely prefers to

> buy Canon inks that cost 60% of the price of a new printer. I don't
use
> Canon inks. My estimated cost for ink is between 2% and 7% of a new
> iP5000, depending on whether I refill them myself or use prefilled.
By
> using compatibles/refills I easily run two Canon printers (the
other's
> a relative of yours, the i860). And they can both be operated at the
> same time, printing two different photos or what have you.
>
> -Taliesyn

Thank you. Lots of happy customers. Think I'll try them.

Thanks again.

 

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Thanks Frank. I've looked at the feedback and they look OK to me. If
this was a really expensive printer I might be apprehensive but for the
I560, what the heck.

As for measekite - he clearly has too much time on his hands.

Anyway - thanks again. I've already ordered them.

 

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Anoni Moose wrote:

>measekite wrote:
>
>
>>Arthur Entlich wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Who makes the inks isn't the issue. The ink is either good or it
>>>
>>>
>isn't.
>
>
>>
>>

The whole issue is who makes the ink. It is relatively easy to grade
and follow a standard. If IMC was a manufacturer/formulator of ink and
was sold under the IMC name to all of the chanels that sell ink, it
would be relatively easy to track if people are having problems with the
ink and who has the best price. And you would not be married to one
choice of supplier since you could get the same thing from a host of
different places. This will help you identify if something is good or
not good.

>>That statement is not really true. When you know who manufacturers
>>
>>
>ink
>
>
>>and that ink is sold under the mfg name through a variety of channels
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>then it is not as difficult to ascertain the quality and consistency
>>
>>
>of
>
>
>>the product.
>>
>>
>
>Yes, knowing the maker only makes evaluation of many vendors
>possibly easier, but looking at the subject line, it really
>isn't the issue.
>
>I use cheap 3rd party ink for our Canon printer that's used for
>things where we don't care how accurate the colors are nor how
>long the prints will last. Our short attention span printer.
>
>In our i9900 that's really only used for photographs where I want
>known longevity of the prints (use only Canon's Photo Pro paper)
>and accurate colors (using associated ICC files w/photoshop) I use
>Canon's own ink exclusively.
>
>The short attention span printer uses by far more ink.
>
>Mike
>
>P.S. -Some inks tried for the short attention span printer, even though
> from seemingly quasi- "name" brands, were absolute trash. One
>black
> ink spattered ink like crazy (and wasn't really *BLACK*). Went a
> *little* less cheap and stuff used now works fine (but for how
>long
> before fading I haven't a clue, nor do print colors look like it
>does
> on screen like it does for the other printer).
>
>
>

 

[frank]

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measekite wrote:
>
>
> Anoni Moose wrote:
>
>> measekite wrote:

>
>
> The whole issue is who makes the ink. It is relatively easy to grade
> and follow a standard. If IMC was a manufacturer/formulator of ink and
> was sold under the IMC name to all of the chanels that sell ink, it
> would be relatively easy to track if people are having problems with the
> ink and who has the best price. And you would not be married to one
> choice of supplier since you could get the same thing from a host of
> different places. This will help you identify if something is good or
> not good.
>
You are either an idiot or a misinformed moron.
Probably both.
Frank

 

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Just an update. I decided to order from lotsofthings.com. A few days
after placing the order I emailed them to find out what the status was.
They responded that there had been some error and my order hadn't been
processed on time. They discounted each ink cartridge that I ordered
by $1 and gave me free shipping. They also apologized.

I received the items in just a few days via Priority Mail. The
cartridges are perfect. I'm very happy and think their customer
service is outstanding.


Jane wrote:
> I have a Canon i560. It's a cheap but very nice little printer.
Does
> a really nice job and I don't want to ruin it.
>
> I've been looking for replacement color cartridges and most of them
are
> advertised as either "compatible" or "compatible refills". They are
> quite inexpensive.
>
> Are these OK to use?
>
> Thanks

 

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"Jane" <googlemail2003@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1114779217.308843.215330
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> Just an update. I decided to order from lotsofthings.com. A few days
> after placing the order I emailed them to find out what the status
was.
> They responded that there had been some error and my order hadn't
been
> processed on time. They discounted each ink cartridge that I ordered
> by $1 and gave me free shipping. They also apologized.
>
> I received the items in just a few days via Priority Mail. The
> cartridges are perfect. I'm very happy and think their customer
> service is outstanding.
>
>

Thanks for the update, Jane. Another crushing blow to Measedyke.


> Jane wrote:
>> I have a Canon i560. It's a cheap but very nice little printer.
> Does
>> a really nice job and I don't want to ruin it.
>>
>> I've been looking for replacement color cartridges and most of them
> are
>> advertised as either "compatible" or "compatible refills". They are
>> quite inexpensive.
>>
>> Are these OK to use?
>>
>> Thanks
>
>

 

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If she want to bend over for alotofcrap that is her business. The
formulabs ink they sell may be OK. If she lives in California then she
is more stupid for she has to pay sales tax. There are other out of
states where that can be avoided.

Brian Potter wrote:

>"Jane" <googlemail2003@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1114779217.308843.215330
>@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>>Just an update. I decided to order from lotsofthings.com. A few days
>>after placing the order I emailed them to find out what the status
>>
>>
>was.
>
>
>> They responded that there had been some error and my order hadn't
>>
>>
>been
>
>
>>processed on time. They discounted each ink cartridge that I ordered
>>by $1 and gave me free shipping. They also apologized.
>>
>>I received the items in just a few days via Priority Mail. The
>>cartridges are perfect. I'm very happy and think their customer
>>service is outstanding.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Thanks for the update, Jane. Another crushing blow to Measedyke.
>
>
>
>
>>Jane wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have a Canon i560. It's a cheap but very nice little printer.
>>>
>>>
>>Does
>>
>>
>>>a really nice job and I don't want to ruin it.
>>>
>>>I've been looking for replacement color cartridges and most of them
>>>
>>>
>>are
>>
>>
>>>advertised as either "compatible" or "compatible refills". They are
>>>quite inexpensive.
>>>
>>>Are these OK to use?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

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measekite <measekite@yahoo.com> wrote in news:8ksce.10825$J12.3804
@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:

> If she lives in California then she is more stupid for she has to pay
sales tax. There are other out of states where that can be avoided.


You're stupid enough to pay nearly the price of the printer every time
you buy OEM cartridges and you call Jane stupid for possibly paying $1.50,
or whatever, in taxes, after saving bundles of money by using compatibles.
You really do need a psychiatrist.

 

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Brian Potter wrote:

>measekite <measekite@yahoo.com> wrote in news:8ksce.10825$J12.3804
>@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
>
>
>
>>If she lives in California then she is more stupid for she has to pay
>>
>>
>sales tax. There are other out of states where that can be avoided.
>
>
>You're stupid enough to pay nearly the price of the printer every time
>you buy OEM cartridges and you call Jane stupid for possibly paying $1.50,
>or whatever, in taxes, after saving bundles of money by using compatibles.
>You really do need a psychiatrist.
>
>

I am getting Canon Carts. She is not.

 

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:24:34 -0700, Frank <fb@nospam.com> wrote:

<140 lines of garbage quoted from previous posts>

>I don't
<more garbage>

moron