Are Intel joking re: i3 pricing?

[rkh404 1]

IMO, both companies make great products...

 

[BadTrip]

You're a fail overclocker My 800MHz T-bird made 958MHz Ok.... so I upped the multi to 9.5x... 😀

My t-Bird was the 1.4 ghz. Couldnt get it past 1473 mhz. Could have been the board.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=1404

 

[randomizer]

I think I could set the bus speed to 200MHz, but it obviously wouldn't run that high. My board was an ASUS A7V, it was odd in that you couldn't adjust the vcore and get it to stick after a reboot. But I didn't need to overvolt to get it to 958MHz.

 

[dasickninja]

God this thread is fail.

 

[AMW1011]

I am finding a lot of the comments on this thread a tad funny.

I don't think I've seen it mentioned (having read the whole thread) but has anyone factored the fact that these CPUs have an IGP on die?

They cost more because they come with an Integrated Graphics Accelerator.

Not my cup of tea but a reasonable explanation it is (rather than all of the conspiracy theories regarding Intel and AMD and better value bullshit).

Yeah its been brought up. The problem is that AMD has faster CPUs for less money and they have 3 or more motherboards that are cheaper than the cheapest LGA 1156 motherboard with the HD 4200 which is a faster IGP by a decent bit.

 

[ElMoIsEviL]

Yeah its been brought up. The problem is that AMD has faster CPUs for less money and they have 3 or more motherboards that are cheaper than the cheapest LGA 1156 motherboard with the HD 4200 which is a faster IGP by a decent bit.

Understandable but what other CPU out there uses 32nm technology and an IGP?

It should keep OEM system costs down on the whole. So a pricier CPU will in fact be negated (when the market stabilizes) by an abundance of cheaper boards (and for OEMs that means boards will little to no expansion slots).

 

[AMW1011]

Understandable but what other CPU out there uses 32nm technology and an IGP?

It should keep OEM system costs down on the whole. So a pricier CPU will in fact be negated (when the market stabilizes) by an abundance of cheaper boards (and for OEMs that means boards will little to no expansion slots).

I don't see that happening because of Intel's marketing, they must be more expensive. You are right though, its a decent solution for OEMs, which is Intel's main consumer. The problem is, it doesn't make sense for the independent consumer. System builders will know that there are better alternatives and average Joe wont pay more for 2 cores when he can get 4 cores for the same or less, and in this instance average Joe will have made the right choice. It just doesn't seem like it is a worthwhile chip for the independent consumer.

 

[sighQ2]

I am the first to admit that I am biased towards Intel. Every AMD cpu I have owned has been a disapointment. Mostly due to the motherboard. Intel chipsets are rock solid.

I am not against AMD, just the forum idots that try to press there church of AMD on noobs who dont know any better.

delerious.

thx for your confession my child

in penance, have another beer, and 3 bong hits

and please try really really hard to even sound halfway intelligent

 

[AMW1011]

delerious.

thx for your confession my child

in penance, have another beer, and 3 bong hits

and please try really really hard to even sound halfway intelligent

I like this penance. 😀

 

[Upendra09]

You also have no idea how many people are reading this forum every day.

do you?

<<< Yes SighQ2 is right, Intel is a corrupt monopoly, but that doesn't mean people should get AMD CPUs even if an Intel CPU fits there needs better.>>>

thx for this example - not to mention the minor concession = I knew it was too good to be true.

and sure enough - this is what I call the placation tactic - altho in this case, an especially smooth delivery - my compliments.

this line
"but that doesn't mean people should get AMD CPUs even if an Intel CPU fits there needs better"

EVEN IF spintel is always the greatest

You people don't get it - the differences are insignificant. The world runs on GRAPHICS, not cpu's - not anymore, kiddeez.

This FACT is a major part of the FTC suit. I even linked you to it and QUOTED it - you don't want to know.

Spintel is desparate for grafx; so this chips pretends to be o so cool cos it's got lame gpu attached with crazy glue.

Performance is about the GPU you buy - the rest of the processing is about background stuff that the CPU will handle. This is not a foreign concept.

So the quoted line above merely overstates a lie, and slams AMD in the process.

Bottom line a 965 PhenomII and any other cpu for all intents and purposes, perhaps including the clarkfail, is going to happily handle what the GPU doesn't

We no longer require the services of spintel and it's cast of antitrust stars.

What part of this do you not understand? Is the part that says we do not need to support crime????

thx for understanding. that wasn't too difficult was it?



(and now I fully expect a parade of thg certified insults).

1. I will never take you seriously because it seems you always post when you're drunk
2 you use the term spintel, so therefore i believe you have no idea what you're talking about if you can't even spell the name of a damn company
3. you are and AMD schill

so again get some sense and then come back with real facts and real numbers

delerious.

thx for your confession my child

in penance, have another beer, and 3 bong hits

and please try really really hard to even sound halfway intelligent

apply that to yourself why don't you make yourself sound atleast a fourth intelligible or is AMD paying you to be stubborn, foolhardy, and absolutely idiotic?

and none of you AMD fans have given me a comparison of the i3 to the Regors. You can compare the triples and quads but that isn't fair to the i3.

one more thing why do you guys obsess over intel being corrupt? how does that change anything in AMD? does it make the phenom II magically better than the i7?

sighq2 and jenny really need to take a step back and think about this thing about logic

 

[BadTrip]

delerious.

thx for your confession my child

in penance, have another beer, and 3 bong hits

and please try really really hard to even sound halfway intelligent

Now we know you dont want to share what ever the hell it is you are smoking.

 

[Upendra09]

you know i never thought i would be defending badtrip 😀

 

[sighQ2]

You don't get it, your calling me an Intel fanboy when I only recommend Intel when someone's budget is well over $1000 or they do certain professional tasks where the differences are not insignificant.

Your arguing against the wrong person, don't you get that?

The last time I was called an Intel fanboy was over at AMDzone, my first time ever looking reading or posting there, and I asked for advice because my friend and I could not get his Phenom X4 9850 over 2.9 GHz on an SB750 board. They called me an intel troll and that I was trying to lead people to believe that Phenom X4 9850s could not go over 2.9 GHz even though I said that I've never heard of one not hitting 3.0 GHz with an SB750 motherboard.

you don't fool me, sport

when a guy wants to spend big bucks gaming, he doesn't need to squander 100's on spintel mobo, cpu - not when he's buying multi 5870's - and you led him down the garden path to waste money at the house of spintel

the money could have been better spent; maybe still can.

your discreditation is/was also noted - and you continue to burn the bridges

go kiss somebody else

u r a spintel-fud-slinging fanboy

but you seem, at times, to be more intelligent than most - I give you that - but it's what you do with it that undermines

and you know what I mean; others won't; unless they were there - but it doesn't matter - there's a mad dog on your tail - every chance you offer.

 

[Upendra09]

what are you talking about? AMW101 is one of the most unbiased posters

 

[BadTrip]

there's a mad dog on your tail - every chance you offer.

Definitely quite mad.

 

[ElMoIsEviL]

you don't fool me, sport

when a guy wants to spend big bucks gaming, he doesn't need to squander 100's on spintel mobo, cpu - not when he's buying multi 5870's - and you led him down the garden path to waste money at the house of spintel

the money could have been better spent; maybe still can.

your discreditation is/was also noted - and you continue to burn the bridges

go kiss somebody else

u r a spintel-fud-slinging fanboy

but you seem, at times, to be more intelligent than most - I give you that - but it's what you do with it that undermines

and you know what I mean; others won't; unless they were there - but it doesn't matter - there's a mad dog on your tail - every chance you offer.

Why is it that you feel you can call people kiddies or son or whatever diminutive term that crops up in that little head of yours without retort?

How can you logically claim that an individual building a system with multiple ATi Radeon 5870s won't also like to maximize the performance of this said system?

Why doesn't the user simply use a Socket 939 based AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ with an ATi Xpress 3200 chipset?

Your response would likely be, if you are as bright as you claim you are, that the Athlon64 3800+ is just not powerful enough to feed data to multiple 5870s. In essence, it can run the 5870s but not at their full potential.

What the hell do you think people recommending a Core i7 over a Phenom II X4 are doing in this case?

Simply giving the user the best possible system to feed their multiple 5870s. Fact is that a CPU bottleneck does occur when using multiple 5870s in CrossfireX and the fact of the matter is that an AMD Phenom II X4 bottlenecks far sooner than a Core i7.

 

[AMW1011]

So... SighQ2 your telling me that NOTHING Intel sells is worth buying, is a decent product, or is has any merit or benefits whatsoever?

I'm not sure what to say to that.

 

[mindless728]

well im out, going to bed

though really SighQ2, find a religion (AMD doesn't count)), they would love your zeal to protect there face

 

[AMW1011]

Elmo I wouldn't even try, even Jenny had to take a step back from SighQ2...

 

[ElMoIsEviL]

Elmo I wouldn't even try, even Jenny had to take a step back from SighQ2...

Hmm that bad eh?

 

[randomizer]

Drop the ad hominem guys.

 

[sighQ2]

Wow... so like is Intel being led by a race of reptilian war lords hell bent on the domination of Planet earth?

I understand that this is not what you're saying but your post is just as ignorant/willfully ignorant.

You sir (or madame) have got to be the new recipient for the JennyH award. It is awarded to anyone who can beat AMDZone or match AMDZone in pure BS.. and you sir/madame are today's winner.

ok thanx

I really like Jenny

but I don't like you

I have a natural aversion to egomaniacal goofs. and for that you don't get an award

I am so sincerely sorry /spit

you remind me of myself - your posts are long-winded and never say anything worth reading - but at least from mine, you were able to decipher I am a fan of AMD. I have seen you say similar; but your actions make you a liar; don't worry, you have lots of company to maintain your corrupt existence. Now go away; you are dismissed. Next time speak to bad trip; he might be more empathetic to your self-important, self-indulgent irrelevance.

Hope this helps; but I suspect such a hint is wasted on you.
.

psst = (did you get the real message)?

 

[sighQ2]

My t-Bird was the 1.4 ghz. Couldnt get it past 1473 mhz. Could have been the board.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=1404

I got mine to 1600 for about 30 seconds - it was like leaning over a stove w a set of knives, ya know?

15 wasn't as extreme. but I ran stock.

 

[Upendra09]

Drop the ad hominem guys.

what is ad hominem?

guys come on no Latin allowed in these forums please

 

[BadTrip]

what is ad hominem?

guys come on no Latin allowed in these forums please

Personal attacks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem