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i have at the +12v value is 8.880 and the -12v is -3.940 and the +5 is 4.899 i dunno but i think there's something in those readings
my specs are:
cpu i5 2500
ram:6 gigabytes ddr3
vga: gtx 950
hard disk: hitachi 500 gigabytes
psu: 450 watt
os: windows 10 pro x64
motherboard:gigabyte h61
 
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They're wrong, you bet. Now the question is, are those the actual voltages being supplied by your power supply, or is CPU-Z reporting erroneous values? I would try junkeymonkey's idea of a different version of CPU-Z. Be sure you download it from the official site, there are a lot of bogus download sites out there. www.cpuid.com

You can also check and see what the BIOS is measuring for voltages in the UEFI setup, accessible at system boot.

If you have a voltmeter, you can get your own data the old fashioned way. That way you know you can trust the numbers!

 
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you were right i used hwinfo 64 and now the reading is 12.025 but what made me look at these voltages in the first place was that i am facing random lags and stutters in some games not all of them so i guessed it was the psu but apparently i was wrong :D
 
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i tried another program (hwinfo 64) now the readings are right(at +12v value is 12.025 now) but what made me look at these voltages was that i thought the psu was failing because i was facing lags and stutters in some games but apparently the psu is fine
 
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hard to say with win-10 I don't know anything about malware except not to use it ?? may need to run that monitor in the background and run something that you see that issue pop up and then see what the voltage is at min.

''Power Supply Voltage Tolerances chart''

https://www.lifewire.com/power-supply-voltage-tolerances-2624583

may try another / older driver as well to see ? for my 900 card I still use 355.82 seems to work the best for my card and all ways go right back to it ??


may need to see if your board has any bios updates like this one has for ''2.Improve NVIDIA graphic card compatibility '' maybe something in the update that improves 900 cards ??

http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H61M-USB3-B3-rev-10#support-dl


2.Improve High-End Display card compatibility

http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H61M-S2PV-rev-20#support-dl

if you look around you may find when the gtx 970 released a lot of sandy type motherboards struggled with them working properly or if at all like the z68's and gtx 970's .

good luck
 
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ok thanks for your help ill try these solutions
 
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well I posted and I guess it got removed ??

anyway as long as your sure its just not the game or program causing this ? some poorly optimized games will show these issue or a bad download of the game or a bugged patch used ??

like I said with 10 your on your own using it I'd have to hate some ones guts to recommend it for anything outside the trash can
 
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would you recommend downgrading to win 8.1 ??
 
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I'm not recommending nothing on that . gigabyte has a lot of H-61 boards listed good for win-10 so you should be good ?

http://www.gigabyte.com/microsite/381/w10.html

your specs look ok and should be a nice balance , for me that 450w psu would never be in there for anything over light office or house hold use .butt ????

NVidia has struggled with win-10 that why I said may need to try out some older / other drivers and see if one does a better job .

'' i was facing lags and stutters in some games '' thing is theres so many things that could cause this it can take a lot of trial and error and process of elimination to weed it out to something

like I got a game that has a slight issue with intel rigs but never see it with a AMD rig and games that kinda sucked on AMD platforms that now rock on this intel ????? so it can be just one of them things with the games optimizations ?? if there online games maybe the internet service or a high ping ??

what games are you having a issue with ?

also what brand is that PSU you got ?

may try a smart test of your harddrive to se if its having any spin up issues or something when the program call on it for something ?

run memtest and see if it passes a 8 / 12 hr pass run ?


 
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games like rise of the tombraider and watchdogs2, batman arkham knight have huge lags and stutters, ac syndicate lags happen after a while of playing maybe after 15-30 mins ive seen benchmarks of these games running on specs like mine without any problems on youtube

psu came with the case it's not something popular but i ran prime 95 tests there was nothing about them

i ran smart it found an error it's called ultradma crc tried to change the sata cables to fix it but still got the same error what made me ignore that error was because a lot of other games worked without any problems like bf1 and gtav , mkx, resident evil 7 so it's just confusing

i did test the memory for approx. 6 hours there was no errors at all

my last hope is to change the drivers maybe it's the reason
 
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'' ultradma crc ''

https://kb.acronis.com/content/9135

http://superuser.com/questions/868309/hard-drive-ultra-dma-crc-error-count

''psu came with the case it's not something popular but i ran prime 95 tests there was nothing about them . so I assume the 12v+ and all stayed in tolerances ?? did you feel the side of the psu during that stress test to see how hot or cool it was ?

thing is if its not a name brand quality PSU I just don't trust it [opinion] theres some low buck 450w psu's that are not even true 450w there like 300w with a 450w sticker on them if your lucky

take this one for a example a name brand antec

click on the psu picture to bring up the viewer thing and go to pic 5 all the info is in Chinese ?? ya . I'm trusting all that ??

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045

then like this one the 12v+ is 30 amps ?? that about a 350w psu a 450 should be right at 37.5 amps 350w /12 v = 29.1 amps [watts divided by volts [12] = amps

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAASV4ZX6626

or this one 450w and 26 amps ??? that's like a 300 w psu should be at

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5B54M13614


still according to NVidia for a 950 is recommended

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-950/specifications

so I guess it could be important to know what you got

 
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honestly i didn't check if they exceeded the tolerance zone and didn't check the side of the psu neither but there wasn't any errors in the torture test but actually yes the psu has some chinese written on it :D it maybe shitty ill consider that :D and the hdd you think it's faulty so you are pointing at these two parts
in your opinion what should i change first ? or what do you think is the main reason from prev experience

 
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these games maybe they have some issues but my rig should be okay with that i've seen some benchmarks of these games on youtube running on the same specs as mine without any problems

in this vid the processor is able to max out the game without problems
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=i5+2500+rise+of+the+tomb+raider
in the other vid the vga card running tombraider at good quality without any lags (it's driving me crazy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu8Uk8L1crY&t=166s
 
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be nice to know more about that psu you got like brand name or see whats on its spec sticker ? to me that ''came in the case thing'' is kinda suspect ?

when you look at this its not that bad old but ok

cpu i5 2500
ram:6 gigabytes ddr3
vga: gtx 950
hard disk: hitachi 500 gigabytes
psu: 450 watt
os: windows 10 pro x64
motherboard:gigabyte h61


just don't know how far I could trust that what ever from who ever PSU ??
 
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it has a logo of power man in the top of it and it's model no is ip ip s450 :D that's the only english part written on it :D
anyways ill consider changing it in the near future and ill test the hdd again and see if there are errors i mean they are the only things that could be resulting the problem i can't find any other reason right ??
it's the 500 watt version but tell me about this report
https://plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/IN%20WIN_IPP500BQ32_500W_80PLUS_Report.pdf
 
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like this one

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817374049

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3211243/power-source-run-gpu.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2397582/run-280x.html

may have to agree that it maybe a good everyday office or household PSU but full load full power for hrs, gaming it may start struggling ?

looking it up I don't see anyone really crying over it and seem to like it for what it is .. [?? ]

[a nice little tare down review of it ] and called it good /
http://www.hardwareinsights.com/wp/in-win-power-man-ip-s400gq3-2-review/3/#Disassembly

little on it and out of stock /no longer available at most stores ?

personally, I could not recommend it for a gamming rig as far as a office use psu it would be ok ? [opinion]
 
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i got ur point, i think there's about 80% chance it's because the psu ill give the other 20% to the hdd , if i'm going to change the psu what brand do you recommend (not expensive)
 
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ive tried so many drivers already but ill give it a last shot
anyways thanks for your help and sorry for asking so many question :D
 
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''and sorry for asking so many question ''

not a problem at all

thting is sometime you get stuff that just don't work out no matter what you try or change may come down to say the motherboards voltage regulation if not holding ?? there only so much you can do before you decide to give up and rebuild or live with it

honestly I would invest in a solid known PSU of at least 550w at bare min. and to be honest for a gaming rig with a single card I don't go below a solid 750w
my opinion on a PSU is it is the hart and life's blood of your build everything depends on it . like you do you want a strong hart in your body or one about as good as a 70 year old smoker ??.

a good place to look is

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=380

[g3 ] 750 is $99 the 850 is $119 ??

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817438093

they do a lot of PSu reviews and show the build quality .
 
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ill start searching for a new one and tommorrow ill borrow a hdd from one of my friends to test it maybe it could be the problem
 
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you're right i changed it and the lags still there
 
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