ASRock 970m Pro3 good for FX 8320E?

[RigoSanzo]

I need a motherboard for my FX 8320E. I've read that the 970 chipset doesn't work as well for 8 core processors. But I want to make sure, because I don't want to spend $100+ on a 990.

I heard about bottlenecking, but I don't really think so. That processor is even on the supported list.

I'm not planning on overclocking yet.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

The board is fine for the E version it's only a 95w CPU.

No overclocking on the board though , has an inferior thermal and power phase design.

 

[DonkeyOatie]

I hope you mean the ASRock 970m Pro3 2.0.

Get the Gigabyte GA 970a-UD3P. It's a great board and you can overclock the snot out of a FX8320E (or 8350) It costs only $75, so that's less than $20 more.

 

[DonkeyOatie]

The board is fine for the E version it's only a 95w CPU.

No overclocking on the board though , has an inferior thermal and power phase design.

Do you meant the Pro 3 or the Pro 3 2.0 SR-71? The AM3+/AM3 board is even 'lighter' to game a 95W CPU on???

 

[RigoSanzo]

The board is fine for the E version it's only a 95w CPU.

No overclocking on the board though , has an inferior thermal and power phase design.

Will it do as it supposed? I mean, it won't throttle the CPU or bottleneck?

 

[RigoSanzo]

I hope you mean the ASRock 970m Pro3 2.0.

Get the Gigabyte GA 970a-UD3P. It's a great board and you can overclock the snot out of a FX8320E (or 8350) It costs only $75, so that's less than $20 more.

I think it's not the 2.0 what's wrong with it?

I'm in México. And the only one I could find was the DS3P, not the UD3P. What's the difference?

 

[DonkeyOatie]

What do you plan to do with this computer? I would not use that motherboard for any FX83?? ,even a low voltage one. Yes, it will run, but if you get into really demanding applications, especially intense gaming, you are liable to get thermal throttling.

The E chips are high binned, so very good. If you try to overclock it, you can use over 200W at full blast. That motherboard is totally unsuitable for that. It will overheat. Spend another $20 and get a better motherboard and protect your 'future'

If gaming is your main focus, a FX6300 would do almost as well, and cheaper.

 

[RigoSanzo]

What do you plan to do with this computer? I would not use that motherboard for any FX83?? ,even a low voltage one. Yes, it will run, but if you get into really demanding applications, especially intense gaming, you are liable to get thermal throttling.

The E chips are high binned, so very good. If you try to overclock it, you can use over 200W at full blast. That motherboard is totally unsuitable for that. It will overheat. Spend another $20 and get a better motherboard and protect your 'future'

If gaming is your main focus, a FX6300 would do almost as well, and cheaper.

Mm yeah gaming and I also record some music, maybe editing in the future. If I run the CPU stock, will I get that problem as well?

I already have the 8320e

 

[skippyboy92362]

Get the a 970 with the newest tech and a M.2 Slot.
GIGABYTE GA-970-Gaming http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128887

or

ASUS 970 PRO GAMING/AURA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132713

Both are around $100 pass everything else up with AMD boards unless they have the newer features. The Asus 970 PRO GAMING/AURA is a great board I did a replacemet for my nephew with a FX 8320 Cryorig H7 overclocked to 4.1 gaming.

 

[DonkeyOatie]

OK. Then get a better motherboard. In the last month I've answered over ten people who have had performance issues with FX83?? chips. Yes many of them are 8350s or 125W chips. ALL of these performance issues are due to thermal throttling of cheaper motherboard when playing intense games.

Yes, you have a 95W CPU, but the standard Pro 3 is not really up to what you want to do. Browsing, internet and movies OK, maybe, Gaming no. I can't advise it. Get a decent board that can handle overclocking. You WILL need to overclock, if not soon, eventually. You will encounter a game where you need a bit more performance, and overclocking is the only way you can get it. When you do that, you go back to having a 125W chip. It's like buying a Porsche with a 2500r.p.m. rev limiter. I know how long that would last.

Your money, your choice, my advice.

 

[RigoSanzo]

Get the a 970 with the newest tech and a M.2 Slot.
GIGABYTE GA-970-Gaming http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128887

or

ASUS 970 PRO GAMING/AURA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132713

Both are around $100 pass everything else up with AMD boards unless they have the newer features. The Asus 970 PRO GAMING/AURA is a great board I did a replacemet for my nephew with a FX 8320 Cryorig H7 overclocked to 4.1 gaming.

That's too expensive. I built a whole new PC, but I bought a wrong mobo which didn't support 8 cores. I realized it after like a month, because I was having stuttering issues and poor performance. So I just want something that actually works. Not something too fancy haha.

 

[RigoSanzo]

OK. Then get a better motherboard. In the last month I've answered over ten people who have had performance issues with FX83?? chips. Yes many of them are 8350s or 125W chips. ALL of these performance issues are due to thermal throttling of cheaper motherboard when playing intense games.

Yes, you have a 95W CPU, but the standard Pro 3 is not really up to what you want to do. Browsing, internet and movies OK, maybe, Gaming no. I can't advise it. Get a decent board that can handle overclocking. You WILL need to overclock, if not soon, eventually. You will encounter a game where you need a bit more performance, and overclocking is the only way you can get it. When you do that, you go back to having a 125W chip. It's like buying a Porsche with a 2500r.p.m. rev limiter. I know how long that would last.

Your money, your choice, my advice.

You're right man. But, I wish it was that easy. I built a whole new PC, but I bought a wrong mobo which didn't support 8 cores. I realized it after like a month, because I was having stuttering issues and poor performance. That's a damn nightmare, I tried everything, until now I think what it is.
So I just want something that actually works just well. Not something too fancy haha.

But If you say that. Then, what board do you recommend?

 

[DonkeyOatie]

What motherboard did you buy?

In the USA, the one I mentioned before, the GA 970a-UD3P http://www.outletpc.com/oc9267-gigabyte-970-am3-sata-6gbps-atx-motherboard.html?utm_source=oc9267-gigabyte-970-am3-sata-6gbps-atx-motherboard&utm_medium=shopping%2Bengine&utm_campaign=pcpartpicker&utm_content=Gigabyte%2B-%2BMotherboards%20%3E%20AMD%20Socket%20AM3

 

[RigoSanzo]

What motherboard did you buy?

In the USA, the one I mentioned before, the GA 970a-UD3P http://www.outletpc.com/oc9267-gigabyte-970-am3-sata-6gbps-atx-motherboard.html?utm_source=oc9267-gigabyte-970-am3-sata-6gbps-atx-motherboard&utm_medium=shopping%2Bengine&utm_campaign=pcpartpicker&utm_content=Gigabyte%2B-%2BMotherboards%20%3E%20AMD%20Socket%20AM3

I bought a ASrock N68 GS4 FX haha.
Well, I found the DS3P version, and don't know the difference.
What about the ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 or the non LE that's a bit more expensive?

 

[DonkeyOatie]

The DS3P is still not good enough, you need 6+2 power phases for that chip, at least, and 8+2 would be better.

If you want a list, choose from these:

ASUS M5A97
ASUS M5A97 EVO
ASUS M5A97 PRO
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3
MSI 970 GAMING
MSI 970A SLI Krait

 

[RigoSanzo]

The DS3P is still not good enough, you need 6+2 power phases for that chip, at least, and 8+2 would be better.

If you want a list, choose from these:

ASUS M5A97
ASUS M5A97 EVO
ASUS M5A97 PRO
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3
MSI 970 GAMING
MSI 970A SLI Krait

So, not the LE version of ASUS?

 

[DonkeyOatie]

No, not the LE for a FX8320 that might be overclocked.

It's not like I'm trying to get you to spend $250 on a real cool motherboard that glows in the dark.

You are using a top end, although lower voltage, chip and are trying to choose between the budget motherboards I'm suggesting, and the cheap ones you are looking at.

 

[RigoSanzo]

Ok. I looked up on the website. They have the M5A97 R2 for $88.58 and theres also the M5A99X EVO R2.0 for $113.30
Do you think that for the money, it'll make a difference. Or I should definitely go with the 970?

 

[DonkeyOatie]

I see that you are avoiding the $75 UD3P. Any reason? The ASUSl do the business, the Gigabyte is better.

If you can wait for a 'second opinion' PM member madmatt30 tomorrow ( he's? in the UK) and see what they advise you to do. This kind of system is their 'bread and butter'. and they have a lot more practical experience.

 

[RigoSanzo]

I see that you are avoiding the $75 UD3P. Any reason? The ASUSl do the business, the Gigabyte is better.

If you can wait for a 'second opinion' PM member madmatt30 tomorrow ( he's? in the UK) and see what they advise you to do.

Oh no, I'm not avoiding it. It's just that I couldn't find it here in México. The boards I told are the ones I found. That's why I wanted to buy the Asrock one. It was the cheaper with the 970 chipset. Still wanna know why it will throttle the CPU. I want to know more about it.

 

[RigoSanzo]

Oh, and that Matt guy. Is the one who told me the incompatibilty of my mobo on the other thread about the stuttering issue I told you. I hope he can help me here as well.

 

[DonkeyOatie]

It would have been helpful to know you were not in the USA at the beginning. Relative pricing and availability is completely different overseas and so changes the recommendations. It does not change the facts about the quality of the motherboards though.

 

[RigoSanzo]

Oh I told you before, maybe you didn't notice. So I'll be more than good with the M5A97?
And can you explain me why the Asrock won't work? I just want to know that.

 

[DonkeyOatie]

Oh I told you before, maybe you didn't notice. So I'll be more than good with the M5A97?
And can you explain me why the Asrock won't work? I just want to know that.

I think that was an edit after I had replied, from the time stamp.

I tend not to go back an re-read older posts, earlier in a thread.

The ASRock board you are looking at has too few power phases and the components used for them are not especially robust. Fewer phases means that each phase has to carry a greater share of the power. With four phases, that's over 20W per phase, but with eight phases, that's only a bit over 10W per phase, so the individual phases carry less power and so are less liable to overheat. When gaming you will be running the chip at its limit frequently. If you overclock, you will be running over 30W per phase, as opposed to under 20.with a different board.

 

[RigoSanzo]

Oh I told you before, maybe you didn't notice. So I'll be more than good with the M5A97?
And can you explain me why the Asrock won't work? I just want to know that.

I think that was an edit after I had replied, from the time stamp.

I tend not to go back an re-read older posts, earlier in a thread.

The ASRock board you are looking at has too few power phases and the components used for them are not especially robust. Fewer phases means that each phase has to carry a greater share of the power. With four phases, that's over 20W per phase, but with eight phases, that's only a bit over 10W per phase, so the individual phases carry less power and so are less liable to overheat. When gaming you will be running the chip at its limit frequently. If you overclock, you will be running over 30W per phase, as opposed to under 20.with a different board.

Oh I got it, I think I'll get the M5A97. Will that one make the CPU run as supposed? I just want that f***n stuttering thing to end. It's been a lot.

Also. AMD isn't as cheap then, since you have to get a decent mobo in order to make them work properly