ASRock Wants the Best Mobo Ideas in the World

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Features:
- An ambient/CPU LCD temperature screen on the motherboard.
- On the BIOS, give us the ability to stop a specific PCI/PCI-E/DIMM/etc device from powering up on the next reboot.
- On-the-fly underclocking capability for those power-hungry computers -- perfect for when you don't need the speed and just want to check your mail, while not trying to wake up your spouse. (e.g hold F7 for on-the-fly)
 
What bother me is when i go afk and had to leave my pc on because of some download or ethernet traffic and the money flowing to the sink, the pwer consumption on pcs just increase especially when qe buy expensive mother boards full of features coupled with high end CPUS and GPUS.
My point is make a software based switch to turn on off GPUS (much like Nvida Optimus).
Turn off memory module why we need 6gbs of ram when the pc is idle, just provide suplly for one module.
Undervoltage the cpu or underclock.
Turn off some hard drivers.
Turn off an off board sound device.
And get it back with a simply click if the mouse.
Go energy efficient.

Also i know my english sux =p
 
Smaller is not always better.

Instead of having a small mother board and a full sized mother doard I would like to see a more modular design.
Use the small MB as the base and have attachments for it.

I would also like to see a more modular design to all for more case customization.
Imagine if the MB was split in hals and you could connect it wia a L-bracket, strait bracket, or C bracket where the two pieces would basically be stacked.

I think a well designed modular motherboard could really open up customization. There are not many true customized cases out there. Most are just a different design of the standard box with pictures and more fans.

How do you get over the latency issues that might cause? Thats for ASRock to figure out :)


Also I would like some L-brackets or ribbon PCIX connectors to be able to move the video card arorund. This would help greatly for some of the custom case ideas I have.
 
I would my usb port to continue to supply power and charge my phone that is plugged in while I am at work. I have to log off for lunch when I leave work and my usb cable is the only charger I have for my phone.
 
2 Mini SSD slots so can Stripe OS or use one for OS, second for Data

Blue Tooth on board for either cell phone/Mouse+Keyboard/security profile

TPM security chip with plug for fingerprint reader that can be Velcro to case for boot access security, makes Windows 7 Bit Locker easier as well. Painless and secure log ins.

Include Smart card slot or wireless reader.

Could sell boards to companies needing 2 factor authentication for govt contracts.

DC powered via plug similar to Dell Latitude to allow clear plastic low profile case for Wall mount, hard drive can be SSD, sell cover as an accessory.

Built in video via Display Port

On/ Off button on motherboard.

Small Touch screen like cell phone have for quick status or log in built in with ability to be program various displays or videos or motherboard info.

Lose floppy, cd, PATA, Serial connectors, PS2, no one uses them anymore.

Make this thing look like something that dropped off a Borg ship with all the stuff listed above. It will be secure, usable on govt contracts, and capable of being mounted on a surface will all parts visible for security reasons, and cool as hell to look at. You will not be able to keep them in stock.
 
Make the Rear I/O ports modular, allow users to choose the outputs they would like, and allow those to interface with the bridges as needed. This could also be done with other I/O as well. This would allow backwards support for PS/2 or allow users to have 10 USB ports, or whatever flavor they would like. You could allow Wireless N or such, withough affecting the main board. The easiest would be anything based on USB, though SB/NB connections may be possible.

Make the motherboard modular, and support for more advanced features, allow an SSD on board, but don't include the SSD, just a space for a 2.5 inch drive with SataIII power/connections this would allow a lot of flexibility for users, HTPC could use a standard laptop drive for the OS, while using other drives for storage. I think placing more of the low height components on the back of the board would also be cool, clean up the front of the board.
 


It's a contest.... not a design forum.. relax!
 
Put the connections the the power supply on the back side of the motherboard that would increase air flow to the vital parts of the computer as well as make cable management allot easier.
 
I like to see cable management be equiped on motherboards. I always hate seeing cables running around the face of my motherboard even though there is nothing i can do about the cable positioning. I understand that peripheral locations on a mobo are restricted, (for instance, a lot of front panel audio ports are located on the rear of the mobo) but it would be nice to have a small cable management, either a standoff cable runner or at least something i can ziptie the cable to. I have had a few mobos get shorted out by stray cables melting to a graphic card or northbridge heatsink. Anything, that can help out with reducing loose cables or those random eye sore cables stretched out across a motherboard would be awesome.
 
My suggestions don't involve anything that requires modifications to general motherboard specs, ie ATX params, or attachment methods, etc.

1. Spread the PCI16 slots more since most performance graphics card sit nearly on top of each other, meaning that the innermost card gets significantly less airflow and usually runs ~10 degrees hotter.

2. Same idea with the RAM slots. Spread them away from the processor housing to allow the larger cooler like meghalems for overclocking. RAM heat sink wings are often too close to allow for the larger coolers.

Cheers

 
1. sata at top of the motherboard or maybe in the middle left corner of the MB.
2. PWM fan socket or a 3 pin fan socket that you can control the voltage. 1 bottom, 2 right side, 2 at the top and 2 left side plus software.
3.temperature diode or sensor in the bottom and in the top side of the motherboard.
4. laptop style memory slot. or make the memory slot horizontal so front fan can blow cool air into the ram this good in atx motherboard.
5. small speaker connected to the soundcard and can be disable through the bios or in windows.
6. usb in the motherboard for plugging usb fans or light plus usb port at the top of the motherboard.
7.12 volts out at the backpanel.
8. legacy controller for old printers and FDD will be pci so can be install or un-install in a breeze.
9.thumb screw that dont fall off for installation of the motherboard. replacing the traditional screw for too less installation
10.holes for screwing small fans in the chip set.
11.push button for clearing cmos.
12.redesign the pcie x16 locking mechanism. its difficult to use if you have a large and long vga card. also a pwm fan connector near the PCIe for aftermarket vga cooler.
13. small fan controller at the rear panel.
14.use of screw and not the push-in pins in the chipset cooler
 
1) Snap in standoffs with twist to lock or release using Philips screwdriver locking expansion lugs.

2) A nylon covered extension cable for the front panel connections.
- One end plugs into the typical motherboard connections for front panel.
- The other end is a labeled block with male pins mirroring those on the motherboard.
- Include a strain relief designed to stop the front panel wiring from pulling free of the tiny connectors.
- This makes installing the front panel cables easy while cleaning up and protecting the ungainly front panel wiring.

3) High quality chip-set heat sinks.
- Heat sinks are spring tensioned, designed for active cooling (optional), utilized on chip-set and power regulators, and directly applied to their respective parts with high quality thermal paste rather than thick thermal tape with less than ideal thermal characteristics.

4) Optional built-in chip-set and regulator liquid cooling.
-The option of connecting CPU and GPU units to the same system.

5) Partner with a case, power supply, and or cooling solutions manufacturer(s) to design an integrated solution for optimum overclocking. Include area by area thermal monitoring with front panel or software based indicators and controls could be included.

6) Top and bottom placed main power connections with side rather than top insertion.

7) Clear high contrast labeling on the top side of the mobo. Remove all unnecessary (to the consumer) labeling.

8) Clip on skins or covers for complete coverage of the entire mother board. Designed with a professional ASRock art and the ability for customers to insert their own personal motherboard art designs. Cover would be connected by variable height standoffs with ability to easily create cut outs for heat-sinks, fans, etc. Possibly the whole skin could be micro perforated.

9) Non-CPU fan headers at edge of motherboard.

10) First motherboard to offer a WiFi based App that communicates with cell phones. Communicates temps, errors, issues, adds control and misc. motherboard based information. Essentially utilizing a phone or WiFi enabled device as a third monitor or indicator panel.
 
I would like to see a board with a real RAID controller built in, not just chipset enabled RAID that uses your CPU for calculations.

Also, I am sick of motherboards with legacy ports. I can remember the last time I used PS\2 ports, PATA drives, PCI slots, etc. There have been times that I have wanted to add in another PCIe x1 card but all slots used, blocked, or are old PCI slots.
 
"ASRock would like to hear from YOU about what you want in your next motherboard?"

What I want?

* Stability and reliability
* OC-bility
* "bells and whistles" - Dual Gbit lan, 8ch audio + optical out etc (pretty standard these days, but nevertheless)
* USB3 and Sata3
* Ditching of PCI (who uses it anyway? 😛)
* Nice layout, including the PCB and the color(s) of expansion slots (100% Black PCB and the whole motherboard would be kickass, but also the layout of expansion slots, jumpers, connectors, fan headers etc

Most importantly, it needs to be cheap or at least provide sufficient increase in the "bang" ratio for every extra $ spent.
 
Have an option in the bios that allows me to manually choose how many mechanical pcie lanes go into each physical lane. This is not that useful with 2-3 pcie lanes but in the future when more and more motherboards have all 7, this could provide the ultimate in flexibility. If I ran an xfire/sli setup I would want as many empty pcie lanes between the two cards, and when the day comes to upgrade to tri-fire/sli all I need to do is change the bios and plug and play, no mobo upgrade needed.
 
Dear AsRock;

I've owned an ASROCK X48 TURBOTWINS WIFI mobo for the past two years. It's served me pretty well; great overclocking capability, good expansion and peripheral support, and the ability to run both DDR2 and DDR3 RAM, which came in very handy. That said, it does have several drawbacks, so here's a list of problems I've identified with it, and some other things I tend to look for when I buy a motherboard (this list only applies to high-end enthusiast motherboards, other market segments will obviously have different priorities).
- A flexible BIOS. The ability to reliably control different aspects of how the motherboard operates is a must. I found with my motherboard that the BIOS did indeed allow me to control most things, but in a very imprecise manner. For example, with the exception of the CPU and RAM voltages, most were labelled "LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH, HIGHEST", which obviously isn't very informative, and kind of scary when you know setting one of those voltages too high might brick your processor.
- Sensors. I discovered during my adventures overclocking my processor from 2.66 to 3.5 GHz that the voltage specified in BIOS and the actual voltage could differ quite a bit, for example, my current configuration has CPUV at 1.4000 Volts, but it runs at 1.285 Volts because the CPU draws so much power. Unfortunately, the only sensors available to me are fan speed, CPUV and CPU temp, which makes overclocking RAM difficult, because although I can specify a RAM voltage in BIOS, I have no idea what it's actually running at.
- Expansion Card Ports: When I look at any motherboard, I look for the following things in the expansion card ports. PCIE x16 ports should always be seperated by at least one slot, preferably by either a PCIx1 or PCI slot, because modern graphics cards take up two slots, so chances are whatever you put next to a PCIx16 slot will not be used. There should be at most two PCI ports, and probably only one, because PCIE has been around long enough that most people have replaced their legacy PCI devices. There should be at least 2 PCIx16 slots for graphics and one x8 or x4 (that won't be covered up by the graphics cards) for some other high-bandwidth device, like a RAID card, and at least one free x1 slot besides that for a sound card.
- Onboard Sound: either make it excellent, on par with a $100 after market card, or get rid of it. For enthusiasts who want decent sound, having a crappy onboard sound card is completely useless; I've never plugged anything into mine. If you must, provide the bare minimum (line in and 2 channel output), so people who don't care about how things sound aren't completely screwed.
- USB 3.0 is a must, having at least two USB 3.0 slots would be great, but given the lack of available devices currently, one would do. After all, the kind of person willing to shell out for a high end motherboard is also likely to get something requiring USB 3.0 before most other people.
- You can get rid of the floppy port now, the only thing I can think of that required a floppy in the last 10 years was installing RAID drivers on Windows XP, which became obsolete when Windows 7 came out, not to mention the fact that they're hard to even buy anymore. Anyone who still needs to get data off floppies probably already has a machine that can do so.
- Keep a PATA channel, people still make devices for them, and there are plenty of old DVD/CD drives using PATA that can be recycled. Obviously you don't need 2 PATA channels though.
- The more SATA ports the better. Anyone who wants lots of storage and doesn't want to spring for a RAID controller could easily eat up 4 SATA ports with hard drives, with another 2 for optical drives, another two for SSDs, and then perhaps another for a hard disk backup. More users, especially high end ones, are using multiple hard drives today because of the advantages - and disadvantages - of flash drives (also, make them SATA 3 so they're future-proof against faster flash drives).
- Try to put jumpers and sockets (fan, SATA, etc) in places that won't be covered by cards or coolers. This seems kind of obvious, but there are jumpers on my board I have to use needlenose pliers to change because they're stuck between the CPU heatsink and the soundcard. Better yet, get rid of as many jumpers as possible and just use BIOS settings.
- Consider putting cooling fans on the Northbridge on motherboards sold for overclocking. Just because a regular heatsink works when it's running at spec doesn't mean it will still work when the Northbridge has been overclocked and the case is 20 degrees hotter from all the other hardware.
- Onboard LEDs to show POST status are always helpful. The usual method of PC speaker beeps works just fine for people who have a PC speaker attached, but very few third-party cases come with one. Also, enthusiasts are probably more likely to encounter POST problems than most other people.
- Clearer labelling for ports. Printing it in size 6 font on the PCB is pretty useless, I always have to open the manual and look at the pictures if I want to figure out what's plugged in where. This especially applies to the pins for buttons and LEDS (power, hdd, reset, etc), which only work in one orientation and are never keyed (even a little white dot at the base of the pin where the white wire goes would be immensely helpful).
- More DIMMs are always welcome, although I realize it's hard to fit everything on a standard ATX board format. You could consider making some in the Server form factor, with perhaps 2 CPUs and 12 DIMMs (that would be quite something).

Those sum up the main problems I've had with motherboards in the past, and ASROCK in particular. Keep up the good work with the excellent overclocking capability and well-balanced features.
 
only pci express slots, no pci slots. Support for four way SLI/Crossfire x. sata ports near the top of the board for cable management of optical drives, pleanty of sata ports near the bottom of the board on 90 degree stand offs. No legacy ports, plenty of usb ports. Support for intel wireless display, no IDE connectors. Watercooling water blocks for the north, south bridges, and cpu mosfets included in the packaging for enthusiast overclockers with a water cooling setup already. Plenty of room around the CPU socket for large aircooling heatsinks or for watercooling. Integrated hardware raid controller tied into some of the sata ports. External overclocking remote for on the fly adjustments. Memory slots spaced out a little more to accommodate LN or waterblocks on the memory modules. X4 pci-e slots for high bandwidth add in cards. built in dual gigabit lan ports. Black on black on black color scheme, so everything including the silk screening on the mainboard is black, it would look very sexy. No other board on the market right now supports this color combination. Move all of the power connections for the board so they are adjacent to each other, this would help for my cable management. case badges and stickers as part of the packaging for the mainboard. I had a DFI motherboard that also came with a computer harness that would allow you to carry your rig to LANs that would be nice. True x16 lanes available to all video card slots would be nice as well.
 
Half of SATA connectors fac up on mobo and half on edge of mobo facing sideways. I agree with an earlier post that it's difficult to add a SATA cable to one on the side when the mobo is in the case.
For the i/o back panel, don't put firewire and e-sata in same column with USB. Put firewire and e-sata in their own column, keep USB all in one column and next to the usually 2 usb's under network connection.
 
I'd like a motherboard that supports both SLI and Crossfire, so that if I switch GPU brands I don't have to buy a new motherboard just to support multiple cards
 
I build custom workstations for my customers and I do not need fancy features, I just need easy system building. What I need is someone who understands desktop PC s are no more desktops, they are always put under the desks - therefore need different socket/slot locations than it was on the past.

Current motherboard layouts force me to route the cables over the motherboard, which is a mess.

1 ) 8 DIMM slots : 4GB RAM is expensive for time being and when it becomes cheaper, 8GB RAM sticks will be expensive. Therefore currently I can sell only systems with maxiumum 8GB RAM. With 8 DIMM slots, I can give them cheaper

2 ) Move 24 pin and 4/8 pin 12V sockets to the top middle position of the motherboard. I am sick of trying to route the 4/8 pin power socket around the CPU and fan. I am sick of trying to fasten the cables near the DVD drive after I install the 24 pin PSU socket to its current place. I really hate those locations.

3 ) Currently the locations of HD Audio, USB, Firewire ports are very incovenient.

Move 2 SATA ( one can be eSATA ), one internal USB connector and HD Audio ports to top right area of the motherboard. DVD s are always installed at top, and new cases finally started having connection slots on top. If the USB, eSATA and audio sockets are located on top or on middle of the case, USB and audio ports will be very easy to route and without any cable mess over the motherboard.

4 ) Add two Case Fan headers to top middle of motherboard. Recent cases have case fans on the top, but the case fan headers located at the middle right and middle left of the case. Just leave them where they are and add two more case fan sockets.

5 ) 8 - 12 - 16 phase VRM : 4 phase VRM is not enough for any workstation, 12 may be alright for any system builder.


 
I build custom workstations for my customers and I do not need fancy features, I just need easy system building. What I need is someone who understands desktop PC s are no more desktops, they are always put under the desks - therefore need different socket/slot locations than it was on the past.

Current motherboard layouts force me to route the cables over the motherboard, which is a mess.

1 ) 8 DIMM slots : 4GB RAM is expensive for time being and when it becomes cheaper, 8GB RAM sticks will be expensive. Therefore currently I can sell only systems with maxiumum 8GB RAM. With 8 DIMM slots, I can give them cheaper

2 ) Move 24 pin and 4/8 pin 12V sockets to the top middle position of the motherboard. I am sick of trying to route the 4/8 pin power socket around the CPU and fan. I am sick of trying to fasten the cables near the DVD drive after I install the 24 pin PSU socket to its current place. I really hate those locations.

3 ) Currently the locations of HD Audio, USB, Firewire ports are very incovenient.

Move 2 SATA ( one can be eSATA ), one internal USB connector and HD Audio ports to top right area of the motherboard. DVD s are always installed at top, and new cases finally started having connection slots on top. If the USB, eSATA and audio sockets are located on top or on middle of the case, USB and audio ports will be very easy to route and without any cable mess over the motherboard.

4 ) Add two Case Fan headers to top middle of motherboard. Recent cases have case fans on the top, but the case fan headers located at the middle right and middle left of the case. Just leave them where they are and add two more case fan sockets.

5 ) 8 - 12 - 16 phase VRM : 4 phase VRM is not enough for any workstation, 12 may be alright for any system builder.


 
All the serial downvoters are doing is making the posts harder for the rest of us to read. ASRock will be able to read every post, because they are older than 13 and probably have access to someone who knows how to extract data from webpages (assuming Tom's doesn't just send them a database file/data dump of the thread). Good job, Sparky.

Pretty much every idea I came up with has already been covered, but here goes:

- Better RAM locking clips. I'd like it to be as easy and solid-feeling as it is on a good laptop.

- Replace beep codes with a simple display- all we'd need is something that can do 4 letters: "MEM1" would be memory slot 1, "PROC" for the processor, etc. Beep codes are a pain.

- An indicator LEDs for each memory slot, card, and drive connection. Green (or blue or white) for a good connection, red for a bad connection, and no LED when nothing is connected.

- Replace jumpers with switches. There aren't enough on modern motherboards to justify the cost savings of jumpers vs. switches, and a broken pin means a ruined motherboard.

- A strong backing material to keep the board rigid.
 
My design idea is to radically rethink how the standards are currently. I want a tiered product design for computer enthusiast and workstation/server segment. I want it to support the latest technologies. PCIe 3.0, USB 3.0, Firewire u6400, SATA 3.0, DDR3, ect... I want components to last like solid capacitors, fanless heatpipe cooling for chipsets, heavier gauged copper for over volting and over clocking. Add more layers to the PCB if need be.

The first motherboard's layout will be slightly askew from current ATX standards. I want the fist motherboard to start off with no legacy on it. No PCI, no IDE, no floppy, no RS232, no PS2, no networking, no audio, nothing that links old tech to the new computer so to speak of. On the inside connections I want it to have 8 full powered PCIe 16x slots (I know this means special cases to hold it), I want 8 SATA ports dedicated for RAID 0/1/5/0+1/0+5, an additional 2-4 SATA ports for other devices like DVD/Blu-Ray. I want at least 2 Firewire headers and 4 USB headers. I want 2 24 pin PSU connections to split the power load of the components inside the case (4-8 GPUs anyone?). I want this motherboard to have 12-16 DDR 3 RAM slots (might need daughter card(s) for this) to run 96GB of RAM. I want buttons on the motherboard to power, reset and clear settings.

On the backside of the first motherboard, I want it to have 4 eSATA/USB combo ports on the back, just like the ones they use on current laptops. I want all those eSATAs to support multiplying. I want an addition 8 more USB 3.0 on the backside. I want 2-4 Firewire connections here too.

If someone needs a second motherboard, second processor, double the RAM to 192GB (no I didn't pull this number from thin air, its the maximum amount of memory that the current Microsoft Windows 7 Professional/Ultimate supports) filled up all 8 PCIe slots with GPUs and need somewhere for their sound and networking, this is the option for them. This motherboard will be inverted using an askew BTX form factor so it can butt up against the back of the pseudo ATX design of the other board. It will link to the other board using an internal HyperTransport or QPI link. Just like the other board, it will also support 8 expantion slots. I want this to fit a double pedestal server case.

There will be a few variations of this board:
• Simple expansion: 8 4x PCIe slots, no back panel, NO ADDITIONAL CPU OR RAM, powered by molex or SATA power connections.
• Massive expansion: 8 8x PCIe slots, 8 or more USB on the back panel, CPU and RAM slots are present on second board. Additional PSU connection (only two per box, unplug one from the first motherboard).
• Legacy expansion: 4 133MHz (maybe 533MHz) PCIx slots, 4 4x PCIe slots, back panel has 2 PS2, 2 RS232, 1 LPT, possibly on board audio/video/LAN. Internal connections added 2 IDE, 1 floppy, CPU, RAM and PSU connections present. This board does not work independently of the first board.
So in the end, I want a new designed computer that can support 4-8 GPUs, 2 CPU sockets(dual 16 core procs anyone?) , 192GB of ram, my own sound and networking solution, and anything else I might want add later TV tuners, better RAID, newer interconnects, etc. I'm a dreamer.
 
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