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So? ATI's HD5850 gets 2.09 Teraflops and the HD5870 gets 2.72 Teraflops. Why is 1.1 teraflops news?

Source:http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5850-review-crossfire/2
 
Why don't they just ditch the dual slot coolers (use water or something that only require single slot cooling) and cram 7 GPUs in there?

Hate these dual slot cards, even Geforce range with pre-installed waterblocks usually require twice the number of slots they should.
 
[citation][nom]backdraft61[/nom]So? ATI's HD5850 gets 2.09 Teraflops and the HD5870 gets 2.72 Teraflops. Why is 1.1 teraflops news?Source:http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5850-review-crossfire/2[/citation]

ATI's HD5850 doesn't have 4GB of RAM per card though. That's the problem. ATI don't offer an equivalent to nVidia's Tesla line. They don't have a workstation class card out that uses the same chips as in the 5000 line either. Lastly, their GPGPU support isn't too great just yet. Nvidia's already got CUDA pretty much down and absorbed by a lot of GPGPU programmers. Their support of OpenCL is also way ahead of ATI's. OpenCL stuff already runs much faster on my laptop with a Core 2 Duo and a 512MB GeForce 9600 GT m than it does on my desktop workstation with Xeon chips and dual 1GB 4870s.
 
Just for reference an Nvidia Tesla card is capable of 933 GFlops, in single precision and 78 in double precision mode. A Radeon 5870 is 2.7 TFlops in single precision and 544 GFlops in double precision. However, the tesla cards are exclusively for processing data only, there are no graphics ports and it won't make Crysis run faster unless Crytek decides to offload CPU computations to the unified shader cores, these are typically caled cores by the Nvidia CUDA crowd as they aren't just for doing shader operations anymore. They can do real computations for scientific computing, oil and gas exploration (seismic data processing and visualization), GIS, computational fluid dynamics, MATLAB. There are over 500 different applications that currently take advantage of CUDA, ATI, which will probably use OpenCL for its programmability has a lot of catching up to do despite currently having a technological lead in it's latest consumer card. For an example of a CUDA based personal supercomputer using 4 nvidia Geforce 295GTX's check out http://www.manifold.net/info/news.shtml they have a serious rig that gives 5 TFlops in single precision.
 
damn this is some fast system. i have a 280sli system and it decodes fairly fast comparing to a processor. for now i will keep what i have, it's not like i have that much money to spend anyways 🙁
 
[citation][nom]ProDigit80[/nom]But can it run Windows?[/citation]

It's using a Xeon processor. You've have to either be a complete idiot, or brain dead to think a Xeon processor can't run Windows.
 
1x hd5870=2.5 teraflops, this = 1.1 teraflops, so instead of getting 7.5 with 3 cards, they decide nvidia is better, nvidia.... can i borrow ur marketing team, i wanna show beyonce how much better i am than jay-z.
 
I smell ASUS getting paid a lot of money for this, from nVidia. I think the ATI cards would work better for GPU computation then this considering the higher teraflops, higher amount of SPs, and more advanced SP.
 
$14,500 to max Crysis out.... I hope the guys at EA and Crytech are celebrating and partying hard because they must be proud of their baby................. I guess for all the flack ppl give Crysis and its gameplay it truly gave us a BENCHMARK.... I dont know if any other game has stayed at the top of benchmarks like the original Crysis.... not even Far Cry1 could do that.... Perhaps a console game like Grand Tourismo?

Crysis has been the basis for all GPU tests and hard core PC fans and enthuiasts will agree that the game has beautiful graphics almost 2 and a half years later..... It still is the best looking game to date in my opinion....

I mean even for ASUS to come out with this monster "Supercomputer" intended for medical apps and enough hardware/software to make PIXAR AND LUCASARTS proud and then MENTION Crysis.... 1.1 teraflops.... man that can make a whole Crysis world with birds never doing the same thing twice, ants eating dead soldiers while collecting the meat and bringing back to its random hive, while the humans go out for a drink and eat and the aliens prepare for their randomized hunting sessions....... the possibilities... I think the CPU needs to be updated as the XEON is great but maybe they should wait and release this next year with the new HEXA-Core 'fermi' CPU's and then it might be a tad worth the crazy $14,500!

I am more surprised that it took THIS beast to MAX Crysis out at FULL 100% beyond threshold settings.

Now whats left is the actual FPS we can get out of this..... Somehow I dont think even TOms can get their hands on this PC and test it to the max.....
 
Good grief, This supercomputer has a different purpose than gaming.
And you can bet your life on the fact that it is also many times more effective at it's job than a commercial home computer could be at this point in time.

It's for professional medical use, not for playing games.

Think before you write responses on how much more graphical processing power a set of new ati cards would have...

You are completely missing the point the machine is designed for.

anyhow... think before you act...

My two cents,

Mike
 
[citation][nom]Thurin[/nom]Good grief, This supercomputer has a different purpose than gaming.And you can bet your life on the fact that it is also many times more effective at it's job than a commercial home computer could be at this point in time.It's for professional medical use, not for playing games.Think before you write responses on how much more graphical processing power a set of new ati cards would have...You are completely missing the point the machine is designed for.anyhow... think before you act...My two cents,Mike[/citation]

you got that right man

some people even comparing professional card to consumer card. the consumer raw power might be impressive but it doesn't meant that it will suit to do works that can be done using professional card
 
"In the end, Nvidia and Asus managed to squeeze out speeds of up to 1.1 teraflops--that's enough juice to run Crysis at its highest setting."

The 4870 had 1.2 teraflops... and it flops in Crysis.
 
For the teraflop figure....Since this is for scientific computing I highly suspect that is Double Precision FLOPS
 
[citation][nom]ProDigit80[/nom]But can it run Windows?[/citation]

I'm sure it runs windows, it just doesn't run mac OS cause Steve wouldn't like that.
 
[citation][nom]liquidsnake718[/nom]$14,500 to max Crysis out.... I hope the guys at EA and Crytech are celebrating and partying hard because they must be proud of their baby....[/citation]

Are you truly a tard or do you just play one on TV? I have read through you post twice and have lost brain cells because of it.

You honestly deserve the ever proverbial WTF???
 
I, for one, am sick about hearing about Crysis.
hey guys, lets make a game that renders using ray tracing and people will talk about it FOREVER because its just SOOOOOO hard to have good FPS... who gives a flying pooh?
 
[citation][nom]mrddr6[/nom]Um my $900 PC will run Crysis on full so how is that a "super computer"?[/citation]


You're retarded.

Max, Crysis-wise is defined as DX10, all settings Very High.

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People, this thing is another nVidia Tesla system. It's a single Quadro graphics card with 3 Tesla C1060's. Less this Crysis got an update to utilize CUDA for better framerate, I don't think that Crysis will truely play like a dedicated gaming machine. This would be better at something like Folding@Home or rendering multiple 1920x1080 or greater h.264 videos at once utilizing CUDA instead of raw CPU power.
 
[citation][nom]wyomingKnott[/nom]Another company with misleading model numbers. Shouldn't that be the "Asus ESC 960?" :-;[/citation]

hell i thought it said "Asus EEPC" I was excited. I though finally I can play Hulu 480p or maybe check out You Tube.
 
why not just code a 5870 for computing, and then when you want to play games you dont need another system...am i oversimplifying it?
 
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