Question Asus motherboard which supports ECC Memory + WiFi?

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dor_13

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Recently, Intel started supporting ECC Memory with their 12th Gen Core CPUs.

I'm looking for an Asus motherboard that supports ECC Memory and WiFi.
ECC Memory seems like a difficult requirement by itself - I've been looking through their website, apparently there isn't a motherboard which supports it?
 

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I've come across errors which I couldn't explain and obviously I don't have the time or the means to debug this.

No single person knows everything about PCs, be it software of hardware. PC troubleshooting is by trial-and-error, excluding suspects as steps go on. And of course, tiny bit is always reserved to the ghost in the machine (aka anomalous phenomena).

Also see "DRAM Errors in the Wild - A large scale field study".

Yeah, there's that study, but do you realize that it is both outdated and showcases obsolete info? :heink:

The paper was published in 2008, while in the paper itself, it encompasses DDR1, DDR2 and FBDIMM. But what we currently have, are DDR4 and DDR5.

If you would build DDR1 or DDR2 system, then yes, you can rely on that paper, but DDR4 and DDR5 are completely different and far more reliable that the RAM in the early days.

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1. Introduction

This paper provides the first large-scale study of DRAM
memory errors in the field. It is based on data collected
from Google’s server fleet over a period of more than two
years making up many millions of DIMM days. The DRAM
in our study covers multiple vendors, DRAM densities and
technologies (DDR1, DDR2, and FBDIMM).

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Regardless, with the new build - the importance of free errors becomes much higher than my current (old) build.

Tip: if you want least errors, don't go with Windows as an OS. Instead, go with GNU/Linux distro.
 

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Tip: if you want least errors, don't go with Windows as an OS. Instead, go with GNU/Linux distro.
Phhhhbt! You can't even clean boot Windows without getting an error, somewhere, with something. Sad to say but Win95.C was the most error free and stable version to date. Which is why Microsoft felt the need to dump it, bring out the hip new '98 and start work on Win.ME.

If someone could come out with an icon based version of Linux, like '95 was to DOS, Microsoft would be in trouble.

ECC + Windows = still get errors.
 
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FWIW

If you can wait a little on your build, "word on the street" has the lga 1700 XEONs and with that more ECC boards coming out in the next 6+ months targeted for workstations...though some with a little more window dressing for us lowly consumers types. ;)
 
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If you would build DDR1 or DDR2 system, then yes, you can rely on that paper, but DDR4 and DDR5 are completely different and far more reliable that the RAM in the early days.
I don't have such data about DDR4/5 and nothing promises fewer errors (and how much few relative to DDR2/3?).
Also existing devices on the market have SRAM with SECDED so that in itself says something.
Anyway I'm willing to pay extra 20% for this kind of build..

Why would Windows create more RAM errors?
 

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Windows doesn't cause ram errors. Windows causes its own errors. Those errors often become saved into storage, like in a picture, that then when pulled back up are corrupted whether they go through the ram or not. Having ECC ram is just lowering or even nullifying ram caused errors, which in the big scheme of dealing with Windows, becomes moot.

My wife's laptop doesn't use windows as an OS, it uses a proprietary OS, because Windows itself is error inducing, and her laptop deals with stuff that cannot afford to have a misplaced number or decimal, anywhere, anytime, for any reason.
 

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I don't have such data about DDR4/5 and nothing promises fewer errors (and how much few relative to DDR2/3?).

Found this,
link: https://www.crucial.com/articles/about-memory/difference-among-ddr2-ddr3-ddr4-and-ddr5-memory
And this too,
link: https://www.transcend-info.com/support/faq-296

From 2nd link;
DDR4 also adds some functions, such as DBI (Data Bus Inversion), CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Check) and CA parity. They can enhance DDR4 memory's signal integrity, and improve the stability of data transmission/access.

With this, there is proof that newer RAM, is more reliable and less error free than older RAM (DDR1, DDR2).

Anyway I'm willing to pay extra 20% for this kind of build..

The extra payed is more like 50% rather than 20%. E.g 100 bucks MoBo vs 500 bucks MoBo; or 50 bucks RAM vs 100 bucks RAM. And how much more Alder Lake Xeons cost, that we don't know since those aren't released yet.
 
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