You should know that the speed of the processor (MHz) can only indicate performance between CPU's of the same family. To compare CPU's of different types (eg Athlon & Pentium 3) you should compare processors or systems at equal prices and and AMD 1.2 GHz may not beat a P4 2GHz but for the diffenece in price the Athlon can get a far superior graphics card which will give it better frame rates in game, the most important benchmark.
Hey,
Your correct that you shouldn't compare MHz if processors aren't identical, but the truth is it happens. This is where the better benchmarks / pr comes in handy.
Timothy Stankus
One of the First AMD Athlon Users =)
Your correct that you shouldn't compare MHz if processors aren't identical, but the truth is it happens. This is where the better benchmarks / pr comes in handy.
Timothy Stankus
One of the First AMD Athlon Users =)
All in all Intel still survives because:
1. They have lots of money, able to buy over the whi\ole of AMD (am I right?)
2. They still have the most market share, and many IT Pros / Homes users / OEMs still depends on it.
3. They have tons of commercial. Those funky guys running around in a suit (my friend tried and it was toasty in there) are examples.
Smart guys are not smart; they only see things in different perspective.
1st <b>ENTHUSIAST</b>!
1. They have lots of money, able to buy over the whi\ole of AMD (am I right?)
2. They still have the most market share, and many IT Pros / Homes users / OEMs still depends on it.
3. They have tons of commercial. Those funky guys running around in a suit (my friend tried and it was toasty in there) are examples.
Smart guys are not smart; they only see things in different perspective.
1st <b>ENTHUSIAST</b>!
AMD already has faster cpu's ready. We all know that. They also have a pretty good idea of what intel is up to, otherwise they would have freaked with this P4 and it's fake speed ratings and released a faster T-Bird. AMD is a smart company, you don't get to where they are being stupid. Besides, they have boatloads of talented engineers whereas intel has chased all of theirs off. Intel won't go away, they have thier hands in too many other cookie jars, mainboards, networking, etc.., plus with all of the major corporations still loyal to them....
Intel just released the P4, is telling us to purchase it, and is also telling us that it is just a transition piece. I realize that products come and go rather quickly these days, but why anyone in their right mind would purchase this is WAY beyond me, simply knowing it is already on the cutoff list. As once mentioned before, one good point for intel is that they are telling us this in advance rather than release the new and improved Slot-A then changing the rules a few months after.
If we expect AMD to always be on top of the speed war, we are also expecting intel to go away and/or be bankrupt which would be very bad news for us.
I also think it is probably good for AMD to be able to sit on their prices and cpu's for a couple of weeks and actually make some proffits.
I still have troubles recommending any of my customers to go with anything over a Thunderbird @ 900MHz....
Freecell only plays so fast....ya know?
I think we are at the point where the software is the main factor...what will it require in a few months. We have all this horsepower and very few, if any, programs and apps that need/use it effectively.
Take It EZ
Atman
Intel just released the P4, is telling us to purchase it, and is also telling us that it is just a transition piece. I realize that products come and go rather quickly these days, but why anyone in their right mind would purchase this is WAY beyond me, simply knowing it is already on the cutoff list. As once mentioned before, one good point for intel is that they are telling us this in advance rather than release the new and improved Slot-A then changing the rules a few months after.
If we expect AMD to always be on top of the speed war, we are also expecting intel to go away and/or be bankrupt which would be very bad news for us.
I also think it is probably good for AMD to be able to sit on their prices and cpu's for a couple of weeks and actually make some proffits.
I still have troubles recommending any of my customers to go with anything over a Thunderbird @ 900MHz....
Freecell only plays so fast....ya know?
I think we are at the point where the software is the main factor...what will it require in a few months. We have all this horsepower and very few, if any, programs and apps that need/use it effectively.
Take It EZ
Atman
No 'if' invloved with the Hammers. They are 64-bit processors. The Mustangs are essencially 48-bit. Dont expect the Mustangs to stay around too long. Small problem....name a prog that can utilize 64-bits. It does no good now. Will in the future.
I think its probably safe to say that no matter what either company releases, the other has a counter in mind.
Compare 130nm processes, Intel's P860 seems to be significantly better than AMD's HiP6.
P860 will be 65 per cent faster then that its current 180nm process. This imply that Tualatin-256 Pentium III is set to hit 1.7GHz and mPGA478's P4 can easily go higher than 2GHz.
This could end up giving Palomino quite a bit of competition.
Anyway according to here, http://www.amd.com/about/investor/analyst1100.pdf,
page 73,
suprised to see Palomino listed at 1.2 Ghz only, in Q1 2001!
AMD may be having some troubles yielding above 1.20GHz.
P860 will be 65 per cent faster then that its current 180nm process. This imply that Tualatin-256 Pentium III is set to hit 1.7GHz and mPGA478's P4 can easily go higher than 2GHz.
This could end up giving Palomino quite a bit of competition.
Anyway according to here, http://www.amd.com/about/investor/analyst1100.pdf,
page 73,
suprised to see Palomino listed at 1.2 Ghz only, in Q1 2001!
AMD may be having some troubles yielding above 1.20GHz.
Grizely1
Splendid
- Dec 31, 2007
- 7,764
- 0
- 30,780
That article is correct... I hear the 1.2GHz Palmino is coming out after Christmas, and at Comdex they said the Palomino will be up to 1.7GHz near October. They already have them up to 1.7GHz, but they don't "feel the need" to release it earlier, whatever that means.
AMD's 130nm process is HiP7, and according to this page,
http://www.chip-architect.com/news/2000_11_25_AMD_process_tech.html, the AMD/Motorola process is every bit as good as Intel's, maybe better.
AMD's not having any problems with yields. The Palomino has enough headroom left in it to carry AMD next year while they're readying Hammer. The Athlon's performance scales better than the Pentium 4's so while Intel may have the luxury of much higher clock speeds, it will need a wider frequency gap to gain a performance advantage as the Athlon's clock speed increases. Assuming the Palomino can hit at least 1.7GHz next year, probably higher, the Pentium 4 will need to hit well over 2GHz to outperform it. There may be as much as a 400-500Mhz disparity between the Athlon and Pentium 4 during AMD's transition to .13 micron and the Hammer family but I don't think it's going to hurt them.
http://www.chip-architect.com/news/2000_11_25_AMD_process_tech.html, the AMD/Motorola process is every bit as good as Intel's, maybe better.
AMD's not having any problems with yields. The Palomino has enough headroom left in it to carry AMD next year while they're readying Hammer. The Athlon's performance scales better than the Pentium 4's so while Intel may have the luxury of much higher clock speeds, it will need a wider frequency gap to gain a performance advantage as the Athlon's clock speed increases. Assuming the Palomino can hit at least 1.7GHz next year, probably higher, the Pentium 4 will need to hit well over 2GHz to outperform it. There may be as much as a 400-500Mhz disparity between the Athlon and Pentium 4 during AMD's transition to .13 micron and the Hammer family but I don't think it's going to hurt them.
Urm... i read on www.theregister.co.uk that it has been confirmed that AMD are producing a chip based on new 'purer' silicon which allows it to run much cooler. This obviously means that they can crank the speed up LOADS! From what i read they had a 1.7Ghz Palmino running WITHOUT A FAN. I only hope it's true 
--
Black holes really suck...
--
Black holes really suck...
TRENDING THREADS
-
-
-
Question Updating Optiplex BIOS Really Necessary?- Started by MclovinBoi
- Replies: 1
-
-
Discussion What's your favourite video game you've been playing?- Started by amdfangirl
- Replies: 4K
-
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram